Security Discussions
Tuesday, January 28, 2003 by d1g3r4t1 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
After the debacle with superwebsearch, I've installed a new layer of security on my computer. A program called Registry Protector, found here http://www.diamondcs.com.au/web/htm/regprot.htm . I've been using this program for a week now and find it to be quite stable.
RegistryProt is a 100% free, standalone, compact, low-level real-time registry monitor and protector, which adds another dimension to Windows security and intrusion detection. By monitoring important locations and keys in the Windows system registry, RegistryProt will alert whenever a key is added or changed, and then give the option of accepting the key change, reverting back to the original key setting, or deleting the key.
I would love to discuss Computer Security setups with everyone. Find out what people use, advise, and exchange ideas.
RegistryProt is a 100% free, standalone, compact, low-level real-time registry monitor and protector, which adds another dimension to Windows security and intrusion detection. By monitoring important locations and keys in the Windows system registry, RegistryProt will alert whenever a key is added or changed, and then give the option of accepting the key change, reverting back to the original key setting, or deleting the key.
I would love to discuss Computer Security setups with everyone. Find out what people use, advise, and exchange ideas.
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d1g3r4t1
Reply #2 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:46 AM
Reply #2 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:46 AM
hmmmmm......I was hoping to see more discussion 
My complete security setup:
Ad-aware
BitDefender
E-Mail - All read on-line to protect against viruses
Norton Anti-Virus
Proxomitron
RegProtect
Script that deletes Cookies/Histories/Logs/Temp Files
Spider
Spybot
Zonealarm
I'm not paranoid........really
My complete security setup:
Ad-aware
BitDefender
E-Mail - All read on-line to protect against viruses
Norton Anti-Virus
Proxomitron
RegProtect
Script that deletes Cookies/Histories/Logs/Temp Files
Spider
Spybot
Zonealarm
I'm not paranoid........really
da_zman20
Reply #3 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:54 AM
Reply #3 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:54 AM
he he he.. I like am downloading... will privide more discussion once I try
am downloading... will privide more discussion once I try 
da_zman20
Reply #4 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:59 AM
Reply #4 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:59 AM
kinda like gave me a big list when I installed deleted the shotrtcut keys for real player... and I guarantee they wont be back... deleted things for programs that I uninstalled and arent there anymore... kinda cool
deleted the shotrtcut keys for real player... and I guarantee they wont be back... deleted things for programs that I uninstalled and arent there anymore... kinda cool
citats
Reply #5 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:11 PM
Reply #5 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:11 PM
I use Mcafee Virus Scan Professional to catch the bugs... Zone Alarm Pro to keep track of which apps are trying to connect to the internet and I use a Linksys router that has NAT technology which allows me to have a hidden ip... should someone ping or whois my routers ip they would not get any returns... basically my pc is stealth. To check your pc's security try GRC and run his sheilds up prob... also scan ports. http://grc.com 
citats
Reply #6 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:12 PM
Reply #6 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:12 PM
periodically I run ad aware to get rid of nosey cookies.
Oil2003
Reply #7 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:08 PM
Reply #7 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:08 PM
I just installed the Registry Protector and as soon as I ran it, it kept flashing info on the screen. It drove me nuts so I turned it off. I wasn't sure which ones to allow or which ones to delete. It was all a bunch of mumble jumble to me - so I uninstalled it. I might re-install it once I feel more comfortable. 
Keila
Reply #8 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:12 PM
Reply #8 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:12 PM
Oil2003, that is the very reason I did not even try it.
da_zman20
Reply #9 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:43 PM
Reply #9 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:43 PM
I liked it... left it on... was confused about some registry entries... but if you don't know just keep them... obviously with out it they would be there... it help more when you are installing new software... or surfing the new and that Gator Crap pops up... I don't want gator software leave me alone before I go after you with my shotgun... 
Oil2003
Reply #11 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:57 PM
Reply #11 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:57 PM
Yes, Keila, that's why I am not using it at the moment, but odds are I will re-install it and give it another shot. I understand what da_zman20 means about that gator. The first time it asked me if I wanted to install gator, I didn't know what it was so I said yes. Big mistake. I couldn't get rid of it until I replaced my hard drive - same with Xupitor (that's worse). I even had to warn my wife not to install any of these "spyware" crap that always seems to pop up.
IPlural
Reply #12 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:22 PM
sounds like part of a great protection plan
One thing you do want to do from time to time, maybe once a month at minimum is back up your registry to floppy, the reason is * if you have to restore from an emergency restore disk, you need the newest registry backup or you end up missing all keys associated for files and programs installed after the back was created" which can be fix, but it is extreamly time consuming and also not always sucsessful for everything on your drive(s).
DiskImage and DiskCopy respectivly are also good parts of a recovery plan, Ghost can be clunky but if you have the storage for a full image it works very well also.
recovery is the second part of a total sercure system/network...
sad to say the net as fantastic as it is, can also be a cesspool.
Reply #12 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:22 PM
sounds like part of a great protection plan
One thing you do want to do from time to time, maybe once a month at minimum is back up your registry to floppy, the reason is * if you have to restore from an emergency restore disk, you need the newest registry backup or you end up missing all keys associated for files and programs installed after the back was created" which can be fix, but it is extreamly time consuming and also not always sucsessful for everything on your drive(s).
DiskImage and DiskCopy respectivly are also good parts of a recovery plan, Ghost can be clunky but if you have the storage for a full image it works very well also.
recovery is the second part of a total sercure system/network...
sad to say the net as fantastic as it is, can also be a cesspool.
JamMeister33
Reply #13 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:23 PM
Reply #13 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:23 PM
I use Norton's Systemworks 2003, Norton's Antivirus 2003, Norton's Personal Firewall 2003 and Ad-aware 5.8
Haven't had any serious problems in a long time. I keep System Restore turned off, I think it's worthless.
Haven't had any serious problems in a long time. I keep System Restore turned off, I think it's worthless.
Bangkokboy
Reply #14 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:15 PM
Reply #14 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:15 PM
i would like to have a Registry monitor program, but i want one that logs reg change transactions instead of popping up messages.
i'm betting that d1 wears a belt with his suspenders. just kidding, i'm a bit paranoid meself when it comes to my PC.
i'm betting that d1 wears a belt with his suspenders.
just kidding, i'm a bit paranoid meself when it comes to my PC.
Xerraire
Reply #15 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:38 PM
Reply #15 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:38 PM
THat is not the first time I have heard that System Restore is worthless...being new to XP, can you tell me why?
bordfryr
Reply #16 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:43 PM
Reply #16 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:43 PM
I wouldn't say it's worthless. However there have been a few times it didn't help and I had to use the install cd to do a repair install.
JamMeister33
Reply #17 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:44 PM
Reply #17 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:44 PM
It uses up a lot of resources and hard drive space, and is of very limited usefulness.
Sometimes you need to reinstall certain programs after doing a System Restore.
Sometimes it bollocks up the works and you wind up having to reinstall the OS..
I don't see the point in using something so flawed.
Sometimes you need to reinstall certain programs after doing a System Restore.
Sometimes it bollocks up the works and you wind up having to reinstall the OS..
I don't see the point in using something so flawed.
IPlural
Reply #18 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:48 PM
Reply #18 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:48 PM
I wouldn't use System Restore
It is useless !!!
depending on which network I am on the hardware changes.
But the system setup is the same pretty nucm:
Either a:
10/100 mbit multiport NetGear RT314 NAT gateway/Router
or
FireBOX II firewall with content, email, internet, intranet and security filters
SOftware....
NIS Pro 2003, includes NAV 2003 and productivity controls for the nusiness enviornment
SpyWatch
Spamkiller 4.0
Email-tracker-pro for trace-routes on emails sent to me or on my network from any desktop that recieves it
NeoTrace Pro for anything IP related, runs inside browsers on the tool bar or stand alone.
LANguard Network Security Scanner
Startup Orginizer
Taskinfo 2003 to monitor anything and everything loaded into memory
Bootvis is ran perodicaly to ensure opt bootup and shut down speeds, it is on MS website and is a excelant utility that is not mentioned publicly for the most part, they use it when testing MS for tweaking.
uPnP disabled without question on all systems and not enabled for any reason.
various registry and services tweaks from this list of links.
Windows XP A to Z
www.windowsxpatoz.com http://www.windowsxpatoz.com
Database, searchable, tips and fixes for XP
Windows AP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default/asp http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default/asp
Microsoft knows it better than anyone and users input is great in the news groups
TweakXP, pretty much says it all in the name
www.tweakxp.xom http://www.tweakxp.xom
Tech-Republic
www.techrepublic.com http://www.techrepublic.com
everyone should check this place out from the professional to the hobbyist..
Mailing lists are very well put together and filled with real information you can make use
of at home, on the road or at the office with your servers, desktops and laptops, heck even pocket pc's
there are a lot more, but...
mmm, more but whats the point...
It is useless !!!
depending on which network I am on the hardware changes.
But the system setup is the same pretty nucm:
Either a:
10/100 mbit multiport NetGear RT314 NAT gateway/Router
or
FireBOX II firewall with content, email, internet, intranet and security filters
SOftware....
NIS Pro 2003, includes NAV 2003 and productivity controls for the nusiness enviornment
SpyWatch
Spamkiller 4.0
Email-tracker-pro for trace-routes on emails sent to me or on my network from any desktop that recieves it
NeoTrace Pro for anything IP related, runs inside browsers on the tool bar or stand alone.
LANguard Network Security Scanner
Startup Orginizer
Taskinfo 2003 to monitor anything and everything loaded into memory
Bootvis is ran perodicaly to ensure opt bootup and shut down speeds, it is on MS website and is a excelant utility that is not mentioned publicly for the most part, they use it when testing MS for tweaking.
uPnP disabled without question on all systems and not enabled for any reason.
various registry and services tweaks from this list of links.
Windows XP A to Z
www.windowsxpatoz.com http://www.windowsxpatoz.com
Database, searchable, tips and fixes for XP
Windows AP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default/asp http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default/asp
Microsoft knows it better than anyone and users input is great in the news groups
TweakXP, pretty much says it all in the name
www.tweakxp.xom http://www.tweakxp.xom
Tech-Republic
www.techrepublic.com http://www.techrepublic.com
everyone should check this place out from the professional to the hobbyist..
Mailing lists are very well put together and filled with real information you can make use
of at home, on the road or at the office with your servers, desktops and laptops, heck even pocket pc's
there are a lot more, but...
mmm, more but whats the point...
Larry Kuperman
Reply #20 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:14 PM
Reply #20 Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:14 PM
Too many security programs will slow your system down and cause conflicts. Almost as bad as getting a virus. Isn't irony ironic?
I use Ad-Aware and NAV 2003. That's it. I took Zone Alarm off a while ago and am none the worse.
I keep Spinrite handy, just in case.
I use Ad-Aware and NAV 2003. That's it. I took Zone Alarm off a while ago and am none the worse.
I keep Spinrite handy, just in case.
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Reply #1 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:50 PM
My security comprises Zone Pro and a couple of over-zealous email/virus checkers...[one a beta] which vie for domination....who can catch the nasties first.
Got a bit annoying when one of them kept deleting what was probably a clean exe....just because it could...and 'it' new best.
Never did get to try that release of Sonique...