War?

Monday, January 27, 2003 by joetheblow | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Ok. I hope this doesn't become a "lets blow them up" or a "give peace a chance" thread but I was wondering something stratigic (spell?)

What if the US attacks Iraq and since Iran is also part of the "axil of evil", maybe it too will feel threatened and attack the US troops as well. I actually think they will attack them and that is what Hussien means by "many body bags".

Does anyone think the US has thought of this?
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Delicious
Reply #21 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:40 AM
If anyone is interested, the Bible predicts the downfall of the USA.

USA was the best country to live in but recently fell to #2.

We live in a world where the main focus is for self centered greed. Why should this type of reaction we see happening world wide not be expected.

I say let the world govts spend billions on stuff that just go boom and turn their eyes when a child goes to bed hungry. To hell with feeding, housing, and educating the unfortunate. Let's spend that money and make a several billion dollar plane to carry thousand of dollars worth of bombs.

IMO Let Armageddon begin! Don't worry its coming.
Weaksid
Reply #22 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:45 AM
Yea, the Bible goes through all the Nations. And I think we were one of the first couple to go.

Woohoo, fellow Bible person
c242
Reply #23 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:48 AM
#21 by Ms. Delicious - 1/28/2003 6:40:42 AM
If anyone is interested, the Bible predicts the downfall of the USA.

Sorry, but I honestly doubt that. Along with the koran the bible is the most mis-interpreted book in the world IMHO. You can taje every sentence from both and make it fit for Your own opinion...


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c242
Reply #24 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:50 AM
taje = take... I shouldn't write about such things at work...

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Weaksid
Reply #25 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:01 AM
Yea, I wonder how many people will try to hammer you with the info
Delicious
Reply #26 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:05 AM
You can taje every sentence from both and make it fit for Your own opinion...

That is the problem. If only it was taken with a view other than personal but theological.

I have an online minister friend whom believes strongly that the USA was established by God; for Gods chosen ppl. What is wrong with that picture?

BTW, what is the best/#1 country to live in now that the US dropped to #2
Jafo
Reply #27 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:19 AM
Simple 'Q'....if 'God' created the USA, why did 500 Nations have to die to do it?

At least in Australia we only tried to wipe out the oldest civilization/culture on the planet...
Jafo
Reply #28 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:21 AM
Delicious...I believe Australia made it to '#1'.....at least Melbourne did...

Of course, not at the mo....we're collateral damage target for Iraq aiming at the US....and we have the odd fire at the moment...
paxx
Reply #29 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:42 AM
According to the ranking that the UN makes every year since 1990, the US is actually 6th, with Norway, Sweden and Canada as the first 3 countries with the best "quality of life". See this article by Reuters: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/020724/5/nt9q.html


The first 20 countries are, in order:
1- Norway
2- Sweden
3- Canada
4- Belgium
5- Australia
6- United States
7- Iceland
8- Netherlands
9- Japan
10- Finland
11- Switzerland
12- France
13- Britain
14- Denmark
15- Austria
16- Luxembourg
17- Germany
18- Ireland
19- New Zealand
20- Italy
Weaksid
Reply #30 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:36 AM
Dang Canada is ahead of US
paxx
Reply #31 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:53 AM
Canada is always above the US. Look on the map.
Weaksid
Reply #32 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:03 AM
Smart ( V )

wombat_1
Reply #33 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:14 AM
In the 'best cities to live in' Melbourne Australia made #2 ..... Jafo, nuclear target #1 in Oz, Freemantle or Perth.
There are several BUFFs moored off shore .....

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KarmaGirl
Reply #34 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:51 AM
I never look at statistics like that "rating a country". I don't know how you can rate a country with the population of the US against the population of Norway. The US has a population of about 287,000,000. Norway is about 4,500,000. Even Canada is only about 32,000,000. If you combine the "top 5", you still only have the population of roughly 1/3 of the US (the top 5 add up to a population of 75,500,000). Trust me, there is a massive difference in how the "quality of life" is depending on where in the US you live, too.

A better comparison would be to rank the top 10 largest (by population) countries. From: http://blue.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/idbrank.pl
they are:
1 China 1,286,975,468
2 India 1,049,700,118
3 United States 290,342,554
4 Indonesia 234,893,453
5 Brazil 182,032,604
6 Pakistan 150,694,740
7 Russia 144,526,278
8 Bangladesh 138,448,210
9 Nigeria 133,881,703
10 Japan 127,214,499


Heck, if you divided our population evenly between the states, each state could be compared on its own to Norway
moshi
Reply #35 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:21 PM
and still Norway has a lower crime rate and less poverty than each of them
KarmaGirl
Reply #36 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:17 PM
Than each of what? Not all states in the US are the same. Some have extremely low crime rates. Some have very little poverty. Where are the stats on that comparison?

The point is, is that each *state* in the US could be considered a country. If they were all governed completely with their own laws, I think that they would all be quite different. (Just compare California to Alaska). You just can't compare the entire US to a country that has that small of a population. I think that our government is amazing considering the mass amounts of people and land mass that they have to govern.
paxx
Reply #37 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:20 PM
They have different factors to determin the quality of life, such as life expectancy, literacy rate, purchasing power, human poverty index, population below income poverty line (%), fertility rate, access to sanitation facilities, water sources, access to essential drugs, ratio physician/population, etc.

Here is the complete list: http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2002/en/indicator/indicator.cfm?File=index_indicators.html

Note that the index was developped to measure the progress (or lack of) in third world countries. It was never meant to measure how well rich coutries are doing.
Bangkokboy
Reply #38 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 2:40 PM
re: the war - Iran. read the whole thread and for once both hawks and doves ( most of 'em) spoke to the issue with facts and good, thoughtful answers. hope for us yet there is.
The issue paxx raised about Kurdish nationalism as a potentially destabilizing influence across several national boundaries is a very real issue that has to be considered ( just look at the Tamils in Sri Lanka and southern India if you doubt).

for the benefit of those number punchers at the UN:
Best country to live in: the sovereign Republic of Texas
Most fun city to live in: Bangkok
IPlural
Reply #39 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:09 PM
*blink-blink**yawn**bump*

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IPlural
Reply #40 Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:13 PM
*bump* *bump* *ba-da-baump* *do the hustle*

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