Cant use site anymore
Saturday, January 25, 2003 by m4ch1n3g0d | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I think that it is unfair to make people PAY to use this site, i only come here for sysmetrix skins, and occasionally wallpaper. Now, i cant download anymore until i PAY!!! That is crap!! This site used to be free, what happened?
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UBoB
Reply #102 Monday, January 27, 2003 6:43 PM
Reply #102 Monday, January 27, 2003 6:43 PM
Actually wombat_1, it's $32.00/hr in Canadian dollars. But the message is still the same. 
phreak_of_nature
Reply #104 Monday, January 27, 2003 6:50 PM
Reply #104 Monday, January 27, 2003 6:50 PM
m4ch1n3g0d or iwontpay = primerica
8====DHead
8====DHead
paxx
Reply #105 Monday, January 27, 2003 7:05 PM
Reply #105 Monday, January 27, 2003 7:05 PM
You guys bust me up!. 
As for me, what I do in my free time is that, free.
As for me, what I do in my free time is that, free.
UBoB
Reply #106 Monday, January 27, 2003 7:12 PM
Me too paxx.... But I just wanted to put a price to these things so that the 'ungratefull' types might get an idea of what they are getting for the miniscule fee of 10 dollars U.S. per year.
Reply #106 Monday, January 27, 2003 7:12 PM
Me too paxx.... But I just wanted to put a price to these things so that the 'ungratefull' types might get an idea of what they are getting for the miniscule fee of 10 dollars U.S. per year. 
BoXXi
Reply #107 Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 PM
Reply #107 Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 PM
BoXXi was just wondering what it would be like to earn $32 per hour!! I have done the same job for 26 years and I still don't get half that! Good old England eh? everything is twice the price, and the wages less than half everyone elses. blech!
Poor, poor BoXXi......me is just poor....sob.....
Poor, poor BoXXi......me is just poor....sob.....
Frogboy
Reply #109 Monday, January 27, 2003 7:51 PM
Reply #109 Monday, January 27, 2003 7:51 PM
Paxx: If someone just wants wallpapers they can still get a WinCustomize subscription.
Digital Blasphemy, which is just wallpapers, is $25 per year.
Digital Blasphemy, which is just wallpapers, is $25 per year.
kthxbye
Reply #110 Monday, January 27, 2003 8:11 PM
Reply #110 Monday, January 27, 2003 8:11 PM
What's it like, Boxxi? It's nice - really nice. I did it once. Unfortunately, it was a contract job, and a rather short one at that. *sighs* 
Jafo
Reply #111 Monday, January 27, 2003 8:56 PM
Reply #111 Monday, January 27, 2003 8:56 PM
wombat.....if you were there, I was the guy on pit exit waving the green....in the sun, all day...
[no sense, no feeling]...
[no sense, no feeling]...
IPlural
Reply #112 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:02 PM
Reply #112 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:02 PM
BoXXi, think, consulting and netowrk support contract with specialized areas
Citrix, Medical Manager, MediFax, DocuFax, AIX, Cisco, Novell, (sic) MicroSoft Products, Wireless Data Communications, Security both wire and wireless ( Microwave - Spread Spectrum Radio with Freq hopping 64-128bit encription, Lanalyzers, Packet Sniffers, and also net security.
Then think $90.00 - $120.00 or higher and hour if travel is involved or Federal Government, DOD, BIA, NATO and how you break the contract down.
Unless your working for someone else and then $35.00 - $50.00 and hour depending on your position in the food chain and contract with them to complete their support contracts with clients.
so I've heard
Citrix, Medical Manager, MediFax, DocuFax, AIX, Cisco, Novell, (sic) MicroSoft Products, Wireless Data Communications, Security both wire and wireless ( Microwave - Spread Spectrum Radio with Freq hopping 64-128bit encription, Lanalyzers, Packet Sniffers, and also net security.
Then think $90.00 - $120.00 or higher and hour if travel is involved or Federal Government, DOD, BIA, NATO and how you break the contract down.
Unless your working for someone else and then $35.00 - $50.00 and hour depending on your position in the food chain and contract with them to complete their support contracts with clients.
so I've heard
IPlural
Reply #113 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:04 PM
Reply #113 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:04 PM
Jafo, green? um, must be the culture difference, but if you was waving Green around all day at a public event in the USA you'd go to jail or mugged !
Green = weed, pot, reefer, marijuana or money !!
Must be a Green Flag?
Green = weed, pot, reefer, marijuana or money !!
Must be a Green Flag?
kthxbye
Reply #114 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:14 PM
Reply #114 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:14 PM
Security and wireless/satellite is all /really/ big out here right now - especially with all of the gov't contractors..
Disgusting money in it. Heck, CSC pays their NT admins insane amounts of money. *sighs wistfully*
Disgusting money in it. Heck, CSC pays their NT admins insane amounts of money. *sighs wistfully*
Jafo
Reply #115 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:16 PM
Reply #115 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:16 PM
Yes...'flag', not 'fag', 'weed', 'blow', etc...
Did the checquered as well on one race....a change is as good as a holiday...
Did the checquered as well on one race....a change is as good as a holiday...
IPlural
Reply #116 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:32 PM When I was with Speed-COM we did all the US and Nato base exchanges data communications in Europe, Japan, South Korea, oh and the USA. They are now in Africa and South America, I used to run product development and do all site surveys, link engineering, Government certification and freq purchase/registration. But actually I ended up doing all that and installing, trouble shooting, hand holding, nose blowing and lived in airports for a couple of years. Started with them back in 1994 when they were The Wave Wireless and up until 1997 when we ended up having 10 mbit Microwave BRouters and Access Points with 1.5 - 11 mbit fall back for rain fade. Microwave and Sat get reflected off of rain drops and moister in the air and the link degenerates and once it hit a certain point of deterioration or complete loss of link it would automatically fall back to SSR 915 mhtz - 2.4 gtz which are decommissioned Military (FCC) wave lengths. Portable 900 and 2.4 phone really screwed with it sometimes in city areas unless you had some real height.
yeah good money, but your live the job or someone else is waiting to fill your shoesit is for single people for sure ...
Reply #116 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:32 PM
When I was with Speed-COM we did all the US and Nato base exchanges data communications in Europe, Japan, South Korea, oh and the USA. They are now in Africa and South America, I used to run product development and do all site surveys, link engineering, Government certification and freq purchase/registration. But actually I ended up doing all that and installing, trouble shooting, hand holding, nose blowing and lived in airports for a couple of years. Started with them back in 1994 when they were The Wave Wireless and up until 1997 when we ended up having 10 mbit Microwave BRouters and Access Points with 1.5 - 11 mbit fall back for rain fade. Microwave and Sat get reflected off of rain drops and moister in the air and the link degenerates and once it hit a certain point of deterioration or complete loss of link it would automatically fall back to SSR 915 mhtz - 2.4 gtz which are decommissioned Military (FCC) wave lengths. Portable 900 and 2.4 phone really screwed with it sometimes in city areas unless you had some real height.yeah good money, but your live the job or someone else is waiting to fill your shoesit is for single people for sure ...
IPlural
Reply #117 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:39 PM
Reply #117 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:39 PM
cool
Has to be something to be standing there when they hit it hard and open them up.
I had a 440 6pack 1970 Dart with a friend that we were building. Friend, ha, had, ha ha, well turns out he wasn't a friend and he had it because when he packed his butt up and moved north while my family and I were on vacation, he happened to pack the car up with him because it was at his house. When you put your foot on the floor and it opened up your teeth would rattle!
My next bike is going to be a GSXR 750, I have to wait until next year though because my truck will not be paid off until then and my wife threw a fit when she found the Suzuki pamphlets in the glove box.
We used to have a strip on the other side of town but it was closed down by the Blue Hair coalition, told the Mayor he best get ride of it or loose their vote so when it came time for taxes and such they found all kinds of reasons to for it's sale... eck
Has to be something to be standing there when they hit it hard and open them up.
I had a 440 6pack 1970 Dart with a friend that we were building. Friend, ha, had, ha ha, well turns out he wasn't a friend and he had it because when he packed his butt up and moved north while my family and I were on vacation, he happened to pack the car up with him because it was at his house. When you put your foot on the floor and it opened up your teeth would rattle!
My next bike is going to be a GSXR 750, I have to wait until next year though because my truck will not be paid off until then and my wife threw a fit when she found the Suzuki pamphlets in the glove box.
We used to have a strip on the other side of town but it was closed down by the Blue Hair coalition, told the Mayor he best get ride of it or loose their vote so when it came time for taxes and such they found all kinds of reasons to for it's sale... eck
JamMeister33
Reply #118 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:47 PM
Reply #118 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:47 PM
IPlural, you think too much... you need to slow down a bit, my friend....
All that typing is hard to read for us mere mortals....
All that typing is hard to read for us mere mortals....
Elfkura
Reply #119 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:57 PM
Reply #119 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:57 PM
I didn't read all the posts to this thread and it may have taken me too long even if I did. So I'm going to go ahead and said what's on my mind despite the fact that everyone else has said it.
WinCustomize started out as a transition site. It didn't end up that way, but it started out that way. Stardock, seeing many skinners ditched on the side of the street, felt reason enough to provide many artists here a place to dwell. Since this site turned into something so popular, Stardock couldn't just up and delete it... there were too many users registered within the first week of opening... this was back in March of 2001. Within two years, the site has grown to the limit it has, free of charge to all users.
The bandwidth this site is hogging is free and a major loss to Stardock. The admins, wizops, moderators, and various other people donating to this site... AREN'T GETTING PAID. If we made it so that everything was to be paid for, the service may be something like 50 dollars a month... not including the wages paid to our beloved admins and mods. The artists aren't charging anyone for downloading their work.
I personally have seen these admins and mods stood up to every rant and flame thrown at them through msgs and emails from every direction for the past two years. Not only have they NOT thrown everything down and give up on all of us, they continued making this site the quality it is today.
All people out there with a site of their own understand how hard and time consuming it is to make a quality site, no less maintaining the population that exploded within the first three months. Before you and your moronic ass come around insulting everyone I so respected, think about how much you -have- to pay for the works of these artists.. AS WELL AS EVERYONE ELSE OUT THERE NOT ON THIS SITE... who are also taking the insults given to them throughout the years.
Everything adds up, doesn't matter how few the occurances are. If you don't like it, leave and don't be an ass about it. Insults up front, we don't need you hogging our bandwidth if you aren't enjoying it in the first place.
WinCustomize started out as a transition site. It didn't end up that way, but it started out that way. Stardock, seeing many skinners ditched on the side of the street, felt reason enough to provide many artists here a place to dwell. Since this site turned into something so popular, Stardock couldn't just up and delete it... there were too many users registered within the first week of opening... this was back in March of 2001. Within two years, the site has grown to the limit it has, free of charge to all users.
The bandwidth this site is hogging is free and a major loss to Stardock. The admins, wizops, moderators, and various other people donating to this site... AREN'T GETTING PAID. If we made it so that everything was to be paid for, the service may be something like 50 dollars a month... not including the wages paid to our beloved admins and mods. The artists aren't charging anyone for downloading their work.
I personally have seen these admins and mods stood up to every rant and flame thrown at them through msgs and emails from every direction for the past two years. Not only have they NOT thrown everything down and give up on all of us, they continued making this site the quality it is today.
All people out there with a site of their own understand how hard and time consuming it is to make a quality site, no less maintaining the population that exploded within the first three months. Before you and your moronic ass come around insulting everyone I so respected, think about how much you -have- to pay for the works of these artists.. AS WELL AS EVERYONE ELSE OUT THERE NOT ON THIS SITE... who are also taking the insults given to them throughout the years.
Everything adds up, doesn't matter how few the occurances are. If you don't like it, leave and don't be an ass about it. Insults up front, we don't need you hogging our bandwidth if you aren't enjoying it in the first place.
Jafo
Reply #120 Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 PM
Reply #120 Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 PM
lPlural...
One year on S/F I was 3 feet from Doohan as he clocked the fastest terminal speed through the traps on a GP500 at P.I......324km.....about 203mph...bit of a buzz when there is nothing in between he and me but 3 feet of thin air....
This weekend it was MV's....some seriously expensive/valuable bikes...one-offs.
Probably about 260 or 280kph.....[Agostini is getting older]...
One year on S/F I was 3 feet from Doohan as he clocked the fastest terminal speed through the traps on a GP500 at P.I......324km.....about 203mph...bit of a buzz when there is nothing in between he and me but 3 feet of thin air....
This weekend it was MV's....some seriously expensive/valuable bikes...one-offs.
Probably about 260 or 280kph.....[Agostini is getting older]...
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Reply #101 Monday, January 27, 2003 6:16 PM
A$150,000. worth of skins for A$40.00 per year.
You sure summed it up in one neat package motion!
Hey Jafo .... A$135,000 PA ..... you could start looking at Ferraris on that sort of money.
PI was not much fun in a set of leathers BTW ..... 44.5C plus the usual windburn! Gak!!!