Windows 10 beta 10041

Wednesday, March 25, 2015 by Frogboy | Discussion: Personal Computing

Windows 10 is coming along nicely. A definite nice step from Windows 8.1 (once the bugs are out).

Still, not all is well yet.

The Windows 10 skin

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The Windows 10 skin has some issues. The title bar is thicker than some apps expect (such as Microsoft Live Writer). Stardock’s WindowBlinds has had to tackle this issue for years.  I suspect WindowBlinds will be making a comeback with Windows 10 as the title bar and borders in windows 10 are a combination of not pretty and a bit hard to use at times (the border is one pixel making resizing a bit of a pain. Seriously.

 

The Start menu

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I’ve seen people argue that there is no need for a Start10. I think these two screenshots (the Windows 10 start menu on the left and the beta of Stardock’s Start10 on the right) make it pretty obvious that yes, a lot of people will want Start10.

Let’s walk through some of the issues:

  1. Where’s my home folder? Those items at the top left are hard-coded. You can’t remove them. Maybe they’ll fix that but time is starting to run short.
  2. It has no context menu whatosever for the menu. So it’s not easy to understand how/if you can change its behavior.
  3. If I want to pin my home folder, I have to pin it to the tiles part of it.
  4. I don’t even want to go into the spam abuse here. It already includes a bunch of junk I have on interest in, didn’t ask for. I can’t imagine what the OEMs will do. One can almost picture that that is the purpose of the tiles in there in the first place. 
  5. You cannot pin short-cuts to the start menu.

 

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If I remove the junk I get this.

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This is what you get if you choose “All Apps”.

Please, someone go ahead and make the argument that this is an improvement on the Windows 7 design? Tell me how it’s superior. In fact, if you can name 1 way it’s more usable than the Windows 7 design I’d really like to hear it.  I’ll start with 1 freebie: it’s easier for touch UI.  But if I’m using touch, I’ll be using the Start screen. 

Home Group

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Speaking of the home group, these are the icons. I hope these are not what they plan to ship in the final. They’re very distracting.

Then there’s the ribbon.  The giant “Pin to Quick Access” thing is very annoying.  Luckily, I can minimize it but it seems like a step back.  Another thing are all the little pins on the left. I get it, they’re pinned. I hope (assume) they will have an option not to show those. I couldn’t find any options in the folder options panel.

Did I mention how annoying it is that the borders are only 1 pixel?

It’s better than Windows 8

I prefer Windows 8.1 over Windows 7 with some caveats (Object Desktop installed). That’s because Windows 8 is so much better dealing with high DPI and it’s faster.

Windows 10 seems be be an improvement over Windows 8 in those terms as well. But the UX needs a lot of work still.  On the other hand, if they don’t do that work, well, I guess I’ll be able to afford to send my kid to college after all. Winking smile

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benmanns
Reply #41 Tuesday, March 31, 2015 8:43 PM


My machine is a 'bit' of a beast...so should be capable of running 'anything'.  32gig of DDR4 and a i7 5960x with '16' cores.  Multiple VMs along with VB doesn't raise a sweat...


Not quite its an 8 core CPU with the ability to adress 8 logical and 8 virtual cores in HV
Well i guess you can call it a 16 core, AMD did the same with the bulldog  
However it can handle 16 theads simultaneously compared to the 2600k that only can handle 8 what makes it a beast.

Btw the VM will not be as fast as a physical installation.
However if your machine has enough calc.muscle and the right hardware the diffrence is only small like 5% (meanwhile) yupp i looked it up thought it would be more but i was proven wrong 
Im sure Jafo wont notice the difference due to the build in Hardware 

Btw each time i read your specs im tempted and want to upgrade my toaster aswell but my 2600k is still perfoming great and if i compare the performance increase to the 5820K for example only the OC multicore speed is more significant while single core speed is only 16 percent, guess ill keep it for another year or wait for next gen.
16% sounds like a lot but for a cpu that is almost 4,5 years old 16% is almost nothing.
Im not hating or beeing jelly, i just think for what im doin the old calculater is sufficient enough atm.


 

Jafo
Reply #42 Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:18 PM

benmanns

Not quite its an 8 core CPU with the ability to adress 8 logical and 8 virtual cores in HV

Yes, that's why the '16' is in ' '  ...

But it looks good in the widget...

RickJP
Reply #43 Wednesday, April 1, 2015 1:06 AM

I like to read this post and other like it , but to be honest quite a bit of the time I dont have a clue maybe i should buy a book,

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