software questions
Thursday, December 19, 2002 by Clooneyslave | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
hey i was looking around and decided i want to make my own skins, so do you know any good free softwares that i can download and make my own skins?
please help.
please help.
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Koasati
Reply #22 Tuesday, December 24, 2002 2:44 PM
Reply #22 Tuesday, December 24, 2002 2:44 PM
MikeB314- the pictures are pictures that had been posted on the net by the pearson or magazine who toke them, meaning they give full premision to use those pictures, i don't sale the fan art's i make them for the happines of the people who are a fan like i am, many do it i haven't heard any one being sued for it, have you?
Posting something on the net is not the same thing as giving permission to redistribute. What you do with the images for your own personal use is your business, but they should never leave your harddrive, without written permission.
wombat_1(and the rest of you who need talked about the grapics editors)- i got PSP7 a few montes ago, any way i got it for 400 shekels(i live in israel) it was on a special sale for the jewish new year,(i also got a studant discount) but it costs around 700 shekels here and if i remember right the software in doallrs when i check three montes ago was on around 100/150$ i can't see how it jumped to 500$ have you checked the company site?
but then again i got the anniversary Pack which had PSP7 AS 3, Media center Plus and lots of other stuff, and it came with that CD someone talked about.
You're confusing Photoshop with Paintshop Pro. It is Photoshop that is so expensive.
Posting something on the net is not the same thing as giving permission to redistribute. What you do with the images for your own personal use is your business, but they should never leave your harddrive, without written permission.
wombat_1(and the rest of you who need talked about the grapics editors)- i got PSP7 a few montes ago, any way i got it for 400 shekels(i live in israel) it was on a special sale for the jewish new year,(i also got a studant discount) but it costs around 700 shekels here and if i remember right the software in doallrs when i check three montes ago was on around 100/150$ i can't see how it jumped to 500$ have you checked the company site?
but then again i got the anniversary Pack which had PSP7 AS 3, Media center Plus and lots of other stuff, and it came with that CD someone talked about.
You're confusing Photoshop with Paintshop Pro. It is Photoshop that is so expensive.
Jafo
Reply #23 Tuesday, December 24, 2002 6:45 PM
Reply #23 Tuesday, December 24, 2002 6:45 PM
Clooneyslave....the chances are that if you find an image on the Net that it is ALREADY unlawfully being displayed. Many sites are either ignorant of, or uncaring about copyright theft.
IF you do find an image legally displayed it is nearly always for private use of the downloader, and NOT for public redistribution in any shape or form without SPECIFIC consent being granted.
Most 'Fan Art' is derived from images which are used without permission, and most, but not all go legally unchallenged. That does NOT make them legitimate, simply because they have not been challenged [yet].
Many sites, particularly high-profile public ones, tend to have a 'better' control of what is displayed or not, as they recognize and respect Artists' Copyright...
IF you do find an image legally displayed it is nearly always for private use of the downloader, and NOT for public redistribution in any shape or form without SPECIFIC consent being granted.
Most 'Fan Art' is derived from images which are used without permission, and most, but not all go legally unchallenged. That does NOT make them legitimate, simply because they have not been challenged [yet].
Many sites, particularly high-profile public ones, tend to have a 'better' control of what is displayed or not, as they recognize and respect Artists' Copyright...
Clooneyslave
Reply #24 Sunday, December 29, 2002 10:35 AM
Reply #24 Sunday, December 29, 2002 10:35 AM
Jafo- the pictures are from high known sites such as magazines sites yahoo and others that post those pictures with an artical sometimes it is part of a picture album to that star.
if a site such as yahoo and other big once wanted that all the viewrs will not be able to use the pictures they could have just use the no right click button code, very simple the fact that they are putting it on the net without the no right click button says that they are giving full premission to their viewrs to save the pictures into their computer and do with it as they pleased as long as it is truely not illegal. like if it is hurts a pearson.
just so you know just about everything on this site can be illegal too if you use a picture of barbie or something like that, if you wanna get into legal illegal battle here.
most people haven't been "caught" as you say because there is a unwrited understanding between most people on the net to the celebrity. i'm sure there is something like that other wise they won't agree to lat the magazines photo guy to take a picture of them.
as simple as that.
and if i'm wrong then i'm wrong nothing bad in being wrong.
but untill a group of celebrity will come up and says that they ban from people to use the pictures to make fan arts i will still stand strong on my believe about the unwritten premission.
if a site such as yahoo and other big once wanted that all the viewrs will not be able to use the pictures they could have just use the no right click button code, very simple the fact that they are putting it on the net without the no right click button says that they are giving full premission to their viewrs to save the pictures into their computer and do with it as they pleased as long as it is truely not illegal. like if it is hurts a pearson.
just so you know just about everything on this site can be illegal too if you use a picture of barbie or something like that, if you wanna get into legal illegal battle here.
most people haven't been "caught" as you say because there is a unwrited understanding between most people on the net to the celebrity. i'm sure there is something like that other wise they won't agree to lat the magazines photo guy to take a picture of them.
as simple as that.
and if i'm wrong then i'm wrong nothing bad in being wrong.
but untill a group of celebrity will come up and says that they ban from people to use the pictures to make fan arts i will still stand strong on my believe about the unwritten premission.
Koasati
Reply #25 Sunday, December 29, 2002 11:20 AM
Reply #25 Sunday, December 29, 2002 11:20 AM
Redistribution of any intellectual property (copyrighted material) without the approved consent and/or license of the copyright owner is illegal because the art, graphics, linkware, photography, music, lyrics, poetry, writing, fonts, dingbats, etc., is held "in copyright" to the owner.
One of the exclusive rights granted to the copyright owner is the right of distributing their copyrighted material (per the Copyright Act of 1974). Redistribution denies that exclusive right to the copyright owner.
The owner of the copyright stipulates how the intellectual property can be used, i.e. Terms of Use.
The unauthorized use of intellectual property outside of the creator's Terms of Use constitutes an illegal act of copyright infringement.
People may do it everyday, but it's wrong, and illegal.
There is no such thing as unwritten permission concerning Copyright.
http://www.rightsforartists.com/siteindex.html
One of the exclusive rights granted to the copyright owner is the right of distributing their copyrighted material (per the Copyright Act of 1974). Redistribution denies that exclusive right to the copyright owner.
The owner of the copyright stipulates how the intellectual property can be used, i.e. Terms of Use.
The unauthorized use of intellectual property outside of the creator's Terms of Use constitutes an illegal act of copyright infringement.
People may do it everyday, but it's wrong, and illegal.
There is no such thing as unwritten permission concerning Copyright.
http://www.rightsforartists.com/siteindex.html
wombat_1
Reply #26 Sunday, December 29, 2002 12:11 PM
Reply #26 Sunday, December 29, 2002 12:11 PM
'Clooneyslave'? Now that is an interesting Nic. 
Are you a George Clooney fan or a fan of the late and great Rosemary Clooney??
Are you a George Clooney fan or a fan of the late and great Rosemary Clooney??
da_zman20
Reply #27 Sunday, December 29, 2002 1:10 PM
Reply #27 Sunday, December 29, 2002 1:10 PM
that's cool... I think im gonna go and buy paint shop pro 
just wait and see my skins and it's cool, zero cool you may want to check out the faq, people around here take this site real seriously... and there are you have abide by in the discussions... besides i'd rather spend money, and know that it's something I bought and paid for, you can't always get a free ride if you know what I mean...
just wait and see my skins and it's cool, zero cool you may want to check out the faq, people around here take this site real seriously... and there are you have abide by in the discussions... besides i'd rather spend money, and know that it's something I bought and paid for, you can't always get a free ride if you know what I mean...
Jafo
Reply #28 Sunday, December 29, 2002 6:21 PM
Reply #28 Sunday, December 29, 2002 6:21 PM
Clooneyslave...please don't bother waiting for a bunch of celebrities to come and tell you they don't like the redistribution of their images/etc., just be aware that there is nothing wrong or illegal with the personal downloading of any image [unless it's child-porn, etc], what IS NOT legal is the subsequent redistribution of it [unless expressly stated otherwise].
Simple as that...
Simple as that...
Clooneyslave
Reply #29 Monday, December 30, 2002 5:57 PM
Reply #29 Monday, December 30, 2002 5:57 PM
wombat_1- yes i am George Clooney slave 
at least i would like to be.
Jafo - i'm not waiting for anything.
and i only show the fan arts (the 6 of them i've done to other fan's, and i douth they actully pay attention to it much. i hardly got any reviews about them, so i guess that means i suck.
at least i would like to be. Jafo - i'm not waiting for anything.
and i only show the fan arts (the 6 of them i've done to other fan's, and i douth they actully pay attention to it much. i hardly got any reviews about them, so i guess that means i suck.
IPlural
Reply #30 Tuesday, December 31, 2002 2:56 AM
Reply #30 Tuesday, December 31, 2002 2:56 AM
I bet if you take the time to read the TOS, MOD or whatever passes for legalieze (spelling?) on any Graphics site you will find that there will be at least one clause if not more that explain every graphic on the site is the property and copy is held by the creatot. Making use of it requires you to contact the author and gain their permission.
I was a subscribing member of ArtToday.com along with 8 other sites and each of them with 100's of 1000's of graphics and fonts had such rules.
You might want to do a search and read up on TM, (c) and branding before making use of others work.
Then again there are also CD sets and even some websites where your membership covers the cost of gaining the right to make use of the graphics on them either for or not for commercial use.
anyway...
I was a subscribing member of ArtToday.com along with 8 other sites and each of them with 100's of 1000's of graphics and fonts had such rules.
You might want to do a search and read up on TM, (c) and branding before making use of others work.
Then again there are also CD sets and even some websites where your membership covers the cost of gaining the right to make use of the graphics on them either for or not for commercial use.
anyway...
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Reply #21 Tuesday, December 24, 2002 2:13 PM
wombat_1(and the rest of you who need talked about the grapics editors)- i got PSP7 a few montes ago, any way i got it for 400 shekels(i live in israel) it was on a special sale for the jewish new year,(i also got a studant discount) but it costs around 700 shekels here and if i remember right the software in doallrs when i check three montes ago was on around 100/150$ i can't see how it jumped to 500$ have you checked the company site?
but then again i got the anniversary Pack which had PSP7 AS 3, Media center Plus and lots of other stuff, and it came with that CD someone talked about.
you should check the company site they usualy have prices for each country i'm pretty sure they had one for Australia
www.jasc.com
i got this huge book that talls you how to do cool stuff on PSP and on AS.
just my 2 cents, sorry if i made any one mad, just giving some facts.