Messgeboard..........I hate to complain, but.........

Wednesday, December 18, 2002 by Koasati | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

I don't like the changes............. where the hell is the back to msgbrd link? What was wrong with the way it was?
I'm not even gonna mention that it looks tacky.

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craeonics
Reply #41 Friday, December 20, 2002 8:45 AM
feline seems to miss my (implicit) point. I want to see the entire thread if I haven't read it before. Or the last X posts if I have. I do not wish to have to scroll down first, click on "read entire thread" and then get what I want.

Multiple pages are evil, by the way, 'cause they disturb the flow of the thread. No longer can you scroll up to see what happened before. No longer can you read the whole thing at once, you have to read one segment, click, wait till the next page is loaded and then read on. A website is not a book, there is no need for pages.

Plus, listen to Koasati and Hell Dragon. Having to scroll allll the way up to click on "return to messageboard" is pointless. The link should be where "show entire thread" is now.

By the way, T-Man et al, don't get discouraged by this. Good board design is crucial to its use.
feline
Reply #42 Friday, December 20, 2002 12:33 PM
crae, i see what you mean now. the points make sense to me.

however, there is the problem of what to do with longer threads. after a certain point, loading the entire thread becomes unrealistic to impossible on a slow connection.

so i am wondering, what you would suggest then?
T-Man
Reply #43 Friday, December 20, 2002 12:46 PM
"By the way, T-Man et al, don't get discouraged by this. Good board design is crucial to its use. "

I'm not, no worries here. Listening to other peoples suggestions is how we do things around here.

I just haven't had a chance to get back to the messageboard and make any updates.
As soon as I get a chance I will move the return link to the bottom. Also I have been planning on adding an option to where you can display a specific number of replies per page. (its already implemented into the msgboard https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WC&id=85899&maxreplies=5, I just need to implement into the account settings now) And I will look into your suggesting at showing the entire thread if its unread. Should be simple.
Koasati
Reply #44 Saturday, December 21, 2002 1:41 AM
IPlural
Reply #45 Saturday, December 21, 2002 3:25 AM
actually being new to this function, the browser and such as a registered user. I find it rather sweet. the # thingy is probably a manner in which to keep track of which reply had meaning for one thing, for another it is probably a field in the flat file which is used to pull the information up in the query... I think that it leaves some real options in the future such as that # thingy being a hotlink to reply to the persons replys * threading * so you can branch out on the discusion. This is where it all comes from, I mean yes, the peeps at Stardock do the work and bend their brains, but here is prime teritory for progress. That which comes from without, and within all at the same time, you happen to mention something in a sentance and someone from SDock reads it and BINGO an idea is born.

Soooo... ok, somethings need to be put back, then mention em, but I like this, duno if you thought of it this way, only reason I mentioned it....

Oh by the way S-Dock ??? How about making that nice little bar with the reply on it *static* in the WinCustomizer browser * ? maybe a filter in the 1.02 release that wil handle that?

The thing is, I guess, mmm, coming from no one such as myself...

If you design the site and wincustomizer-browser to intergrate across each other it becomes a fully functional enviornment. Which is your goal I am sure...anyway, shut up iPlural, ok, sorry about that..



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craeonics
Reply #46 Saturday, December 21, 2002 1:07 PM
Awmygawd, someone's listening to those strange sounds emanating from my throat! The end is nigh! The end is nigh!!

feline > Don't really see the issue with slow connections. Rememeber, I may be on cable, but my average connection speed is around 10 bloody k per s, and I find load times pretty bearable (except that WinCustomize seems to respond slower than most other sites out there, must be because it's busy). To me, long threads are nto really an issue, to you they are, that's why I think it should be user definable.
JamMeister33
Reply #47 Saturday, December 21, 2002 1:47 PM
If you want to try a really slow site, go to DeviantArt....I have broadband and they are so slow loading that it's almost unbearable.



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Xerraire
Reply #48 Saturday, December 21, 2002 2:33 PM
I have cable but according to those determing sites of bandwidth I can go as fast as a T1...and I never go to DA, even with my speeds, I can't bear how slow it is.
JamMeister33
Reply #49 Saturday, December 21, 2002 2:40 PM
I hear ya, Ms. X...
I have a subscription there, since I maintain a gallery on the site, and it is just UNBearably slow sometimes... If you go in late at night it can be very quick though..

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Xerraire
Reply #50 Saturday, December 21, 2002 2:44 PM
hehe
I am not much of a night owl.....I also have a gallery there, but have sort of abandoned it.
Xerraire
Reply #51 Saturday, December 21, 2002 2:44 PM
hehe
I am not much of a night owl.....I also have a gallery there, but have sort of abandoned it.
JamMeister33
Reply #52 Saturday, December 21, 2002 3:01 PM
I've learned not to hit that submit button more than once...hee, hee....

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JamMeister33
Reply #53 Saturday, December 21, 2002 3:04 PM
I think it would be a good idea for DA to periodically eliminate any galleries that haven't been used within a set period of time. They should also eliminate accounts that no longer have valid email addresses attached to them.

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Xerraire
Reply #54 Saturday, December 21, 2002 3:29 PM
I hit twice as it looked like it wasn't going to go at all...

That would be a good idea for DA, for the good of those that really like to visit and use what they have there.
But as I understand it, the just don't eliminate accounts, even if you ask them to!

On my site, mxskinz.com. I eliminate the skins after awhile if they are not very popular. I think its beneficial to my visitors not to have to wait eternities to move around one place to the next. (Now I have to seriously redesign the site to accomodate all size resolutions *sigh*)
JamMeister33
Reply #55 Saturday, December 21, 2002 3:44 PM
I agree with you Ms. X..
I think DA is so slow because they are bogged down with too much garbage that should be eliminated.
Sorry that you are faced with more work for your site, but change can be beneficial for everyone, and I'm
a big believer in changes for the better....

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craeonics
Reply #56 Saturday, December 21, 2002 3:54 PM
DevArt's usually pretty swift for me. At other times though... Long live the small sites. Can always get there.
feline
Reply #57 Monday, December 23, 2002 6:33 AM
craeonics - Awmygawd, someone's listening to those strange sounds emanating from my throat! The end is nigh! The end is nigh!!

feline *giggle*
i always listen to what you say, i just don't always agree is all


my basic problem with the connection speed and page loading isn't that it is slow, it is that it times out.

i am not quite sure where the problem lies, but failure to load long pages from WC is something i am quite familiar with.

with regard to the "flow" of a discussion over multiple pages, would it help if the last post on page one was also the first post on page 2, etc?
craeonics
Reply #58 Monday, December 23, 2002 8:11 AM
Doubt it. You need the full conversation, not the last sentence.
Doreen
Reply #59 Monday, December 23, 2002 11:06 AM
I really really hate to complain cuz I know how hard you guys work on this site, but Doreen hates the way this msg board is...

and for some strange reason it looks like my text is going to have an underline even though I did not click on the underline?

Doreen
Reply #60 Monday, December 23, 2002 11:08 AM
oh how strange my text is being underlined as I type if but it's not showing?

anyways can't we have an option to turn of the page type viewing thingy on the msg board in our profiles or something like that? I just like to click on a thread and do a quick skim to where I last read and be on with it...

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