Dream Central....Seriously!?

Are dreams THAT easy to make that?

Friday, August 22, 2014 by WebGizmos | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Really.....can we stretch out the upload of dreams so others can get exposure for all the hard work? Every time I come to the site anymore all I see is one dream after the other like an assembly line.

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neone6
Reply #21 Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:37 AM

What happened to the "NEW" site for 2014 that were addressed 2013 ?

-Maybe it could be made so things are presented differently on the Homepage ? 

DaveBax
Reply #22 Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:16 AM

neone6

What happened to the "NEW" site for 2014 that were addressed 2013 ?

-Maybe it could be made so things are presented differently on the Homepage ? 

Great point. No doubt it could be presented differently. How about this for thought?

Leave every page on WC the way they are now. Because of the work and money required to redo an entire web site just update the Home page to modern standards. You know, full page screen viewing. That would certainly allow for at least 10 or more of the current uploaded skins showing. That would sure help the current situation. So much more content could be added to a full size page. Imagine the Visibility for newer people (and present people) when they click on the home WC link and see all the content on the main home page. Visibility sells, no doubt about that.

 Please don't get my thoughts confused with complaining. I'm not complaining. If the site stays the way it is so be it. At least I have a place to see the great work of the people here. However I really believe what I said above would do the trick.

You all have a great day. I don't have any more to add here.

WebGizmos
Reply #23 Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:27 AM

Well....pretty much what I try to do is watch when something was uploaded and give it a chance to be seen for at least a few days...instead of uploading something then getting to work on the next days uploads. It's just being considerate...nothing to do with the quality of the work or copy/paste or anything else....just being considerate.

 

Uvah
Reply #24 Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:02 AM

I haven't uploaded much lately because I'm working on learning Xion. Have a couple ready to go but testing and tweaking takes a bit of time.

WebGizmos
Reply #25 Saturday, August 23, 2014 1:45 PM


I haven't uploaded much lately because I'm working on learning Xion. Have a couple ready to go but testing and tweaking takes a bit of time.

Uvah
Reply #26 Sunday, August 24, 2014 11:13 AM

Not to go OT but the new Xion I'm working on.....wow! Loaded it up and it went bonkers! Lol Animations went in and out and in and out...I think I need to rethink it. LMAO!

WebGizmos
Reply #27 Tuesday, October 7, 2014 4:29 PM

Yeah...it's just ridiculous on here with the dreams. No point in working hard on a theme just to get pushed off the page.

GregII
Reply #28 Tuesday, October 7, 2014 4:36 PM

That doesn't make any sense.  And if there were 15 Master Windowblinds tomorrow?  If your skin is worth anything it will be noticed.  How many skins have  you posted all at one time pushing out Dreams?

CarGuy1
Reply #29 Tuesday, October 7, 2014 7:54 PM

WebGizmos

Yeah...it's just ridiculous on here with the dreams. No point in working hard on a theme just to get pushed off the page.

That's why some of us stopped uploading dreams as well. To answer your original question, no some dreams take far longer to create than others. 

I've spent weeks setting some up and rendering them just to make changes and re-render. All that time and it gets pushed of the dream page in a day by something that shouldn't even qualify as a dream.

I'm not even sure the guidelines are being used since some of the ones I see posted don't even meet rule # 1.

WebGizmos
Reply #30 Tuesday, October 7, 2014 8:08 PM

I hear ya Carguy. And I noticed you haven't posted anything in awhile now. I have no idea what goes into making dreams...all I see is how fast and how many hit the front page all the time now. I usually try and give everyone some time on the front page to allow them exposure no matter what they created. As of right now I have 3 or 4 Winstep themes and matching docks I could upload...had these sitting here for a few days now. And a lot of the themes I've been uploading lately have all been sitting in my folders waiting to get done for some time. It's not just cut and paste as some have suggested...but they wouldn't know having never created anything. Even some of the docks I do takes days and in some cases longer depending on the texture being used...some I even ended up scrapping because it took so long and couldn't get it just right.

Anyway...I'm just venting...nothing I can do  about it.

LightStar
Reply #31 Tuesday, October 7, 2014 8:16 PM

Yeah, a lot of Dreams are showing up, but I don't even know how they could be classified as a Dream. Water moving while nothing else around it, even clouds are mot moving, it's so unrealistic. A bird flying around and nothing else moving, wind moving stuff and other stuff stationary, weird. To me a true Dream should be like watching a video with all aspects covered, everything that should show motion showing it, etc. Stationary fish! Wow! Video excerpts taken from the copyrighted screensaver program called Dream Aquarium and put up as Dreams, not legal! I think Dreams need to be evaluated with a LOT higher standards.

GregII
Reply #32 Tuesday, October 7, 2014 8:49 PM

And we all lose.  No CarGuy, MasterBaron, Amitsaran or even Stardock anymore.  Dreams should now be called Nightmares.

RedneckDude
Reply #33 Tuesday, October 7, 2014 8:52 PM

GregII

Dreams should now be called Nightmares.

 

 

 

 

RedneckDude
Reply #34 Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:00 PM

I have a crapload of screensavers I made a long time ago, from still photos of bodies of water, made with a program called Nature Illusion Studio and/or Water Illusion Studio.

 

I could easily make them into dreams and upload. I haven't done so for several reasons, the main one being that they suck.

 

I have never seen a JPG animation that I would call a quality dream. I usually don't even preview them because they look so fake, nothing at all like real water. Just low quality.

 

LightStar

Water moving while nothing else around it, even clouds are mot moving, it's so unrealistic. A bird flying around and nothing else moving, wind moving stuff and other stuff stationary, weird. To me a true Dream should be like watching a video with all aspects covered, everything that should show motion showing it, etc.

 

Exactly what I mean.

moshi
Reply #35 Wednesday, October 8, 2014 4:19 AM

isn't the current trend uploading video game screen grabs found on YouTube?

should be easy for a lawyer to extract some money from Stardock as the distributor of these copyrighted materials.

LightStar
Reply #36 Wednesday, October 8, 2014 8:22 AM


isn't the current trend uploading video game screen grabs found on YouTube?

should be easy for a lawyer to extract some money from Stardock as the distributor of these copyrighted materials.

 

There are probably tons of them Moshi, but I don't play video games so I would have no way of knowing. Maybe we should compile a list of potentials and send the list to Stardock?

WOM
Reply #37 Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:15 AM

I remember years ago when people bitched that there were to many icons being uploaded and wanted them to be put into a package.  Then it was sysmetrics and rainlendar's.  Now its dreams and master skins.

This time some of the masters and JM dream makers have quit uploading. 

Wonder whats next to cry about?

I know I'am getting old and maybe the memory isn't what it used to be but wasn't it RND and Giz the ones that were being cried about a few years ago for uploading to much?

Maybe we can cry about other skins and make then people quit uploading.  Damn.

Island Dog
Reply #38 Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:17 AM


isn't the current trend uploading video game screen grabs found on YouTube?

should be easy for a lawyer to extract some money from Stardock as the distributor of these copyrighted materials.

It's called fair use as described in the various posts about this throughout the years.  That's why .dreams are only limited to a certain time usage or length.

LightStar

Maybe we should compile a list of potentials and send the list to Stardock?

If you see a .dream that clearly violates a copyright that is not fair use, then by all means send them over.  Make sure you note how it violates fair use and where the original file comes from.

 

Island Dog
Reply #39 Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:22 AM

And not uploading because some .dreams come up on the page?  *shakes head*

The home page can move quickly or slowly, it's no guarantee either way.  Your specific gallery pages which typically get way more page views than the main explore page is where people are going.

As I've said before, create more skins and submit them rather then worrying about something as petty as this.  First it was too many DesktopX skins, then too many Master skins, now we've moved to .dreams.  

It's always going to be something it seems no matter what.

 

Jafo
Reply #40 Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:34 AM

Island Dog

Quoting moshi,

isn't the current trend uploading video game screen grabs found on YouTube?

should be easy for a lawyer to extract some money from Stardock as the distributor of these copyrighted materials.



It's called fair use as described in the various posts about this throughout the years.  That's why .dreams are only limited to a certain time usage or length.

Quoting LightStar,

Maybe we should compile a list of potentials and send the list to Stardock?



If you see a .dream that clearly violates a copyright that is not fair use, then by all means send them over.  Make sure you note how it violates fair use and where the original file comes from.

 

 

What ID said.

This constant apparent discrimination/elitism re skinnables needs to stop.

Yes, there can be 'mediocre' dreams....just as there can be mediocre icons....wallpapers....Windowblinds...et al.

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