To automatically assume that everyone will "Jump on the bandwagon" is a bit premature, exactly the same phrase was quoted in regards to W8, and that did not happen, individuals are a bit more cautious then they were before the fiasco's of the past, we will let several individuals bench-test the OS and even then wait until the actual reviews from independent sources surface above the paid for by M$ reviews (don't even attempt to delude yourself).

As far as the clients conforming and even preferring, it's like the person who purchased a car from a fast talking salesman, no one ever wants to admit they were taken for a ride on a major purchase, they just tell you about the part they do like and hope that they learned from the mistake and are better prepared for the next time.

I am in charge of a network of a dozen computers, yes quite small and insignificant, however in my profession the primary program of the trade is Auto CADD Civil 3D, I have spoken with several individuals like myself in the utilization of W8, it simply will not work, the environment is not conducive to the interface and the ancillary programs utilized, we prefer multiple monitors and clean screens.

 I do love the interface of W8 for personal utilization, it allows me to access all of my "FUN" stuff, but in my business world "NO"

Simply put......if Win9 works as good as 7 with the enhancements of Win8 then and only then will it be worth it. Nuff said! 

No. If Windows 9 brings back the traditional Start menu with the Windows 8 kernel and enhancements under the hood all will be well. The user should be able to disable Metro once and for good.

I expect to see a leaner, faster, more stable OS that simply works better and meets the needs of 'most' users.  There will be some who complain about this, that and/or everything about Win 9, but that is to be expected when some aren't happy unless they're complaining.

Thing is, the orgins of Win 9 are based in Win 8, and any under the hood improvements that get raved about will the consquence of Win 8 being such a good OS... under the hood. Sadly, most people saw Metro as being THE face/UI of Win 8 and didn't really look too much further to see just how good it was underneath.  Oh well, I didn't miss out on the performance boost and improved speed of Win 8, cos I liked it from word go and have used it as my primary/only OS on my main rig ever since.

As for Win 9, I'd like to see Metro and the Store as options that can be accessed from a desktop icon, even pinned to the taskbar, perhaps, then users who find various apps useful or productive can access them without losing their desktop or have to go through a performance to get to it. I do like to browse the store for new apps, and I have some that I use regularly, so have my start button bring up the regular start panel as needed, but I use the Win key to bring up Metro as needed, and I find this efficient as well as non-intrusive as far as Metro goes.  Perhaps this could be a feature of Win 9... for those who want it, Metro, that is.

Another thing I'd like to see in Win 9 is a faster copy/move ability.  Yes, USB3 and SATA3 provide greater speed but Windows hasn't really kept up with that IMHO.  It is better in Win 8 than in previous iterations, but even so there are faster file transfer programs out there, like TeraCopy, for example.  However, a faster copy/move function natively would be a welcome addition to Win 9.

I saw in an earlier post that Libraries were not a desired feature and if fact are annoying. I too would like to add my voice to that.  I do not like the Libraries function, either.  I know where I put my files so don't need an addition that can get in the damned way.  So for mine, make it an optional feature users can select at setup if desired.  Otherwise, get rid of it.

Another thing I'd like to see in Win 9 is Copy/Move incorporated natively in the right click menu... along with 'Open as Administrator' and 'Take Ownership'... maybe 'Command Prompt' and 'Elevated Comand Prompt' as optional extras.

Also, I'm not a great fan of the 'ribbon' and would like to see the old menu bar brought back so users have an either/or choice.  I don't really need it as I use an extended right click menu that provides all the options I need, but a menu bar could come in handy sometimes, I guess.

I would like to see a Windows for PC and for computer programs.

But I have not much hope.

I should go for a few weeks training on the OS, switch to a new email (that is trendy enough for the emailing program to accept as an account) live with that Microsoft uses my outgoing communication to advertise its ashamedly poor product and so on.

Another thing I'd like to see with Windows 9... for the so-called experts to keep their frigging mouths shut until the public and users can make up their own minds regarding the new OS... cos the 'experts' invariably sabotage it verbally/in print, etc, well before the public release so it never gets a fair go.

Not gonna happen. They will say it's much better than the failure of an OS that Windows 8 is, but it's not as good as Windows 7.

That's the thing, the so-called experts too often influence the buying public with opinions.... and you know what they say about opinions.

And how much of a failure would Win 8 have been if the so-called experts had kept their mouths shut and given the public a chance to assess it without undue influence?  I know plenty of people who happily use Win 8 out of the box - no Stardock or other enhancements at all - and plenty of people who are more than happy using Win 8 with a 3rd party start button, etc.  

Of the people I know who so-say hate Win 8 - or at least don't like it - most have never tried it and have based their opinion on negative press in magazine/newsparer articles, etc, or have been told by somebody who read such an article that it's crap.  Thing is, when I've given some of those naysayers an opportunity to use/see Win 8 in action, they were pleasantly surprised and some have even switched to Win 8.

Now Win 9 won't be everything that many a Win 7 lover will want or like - some people fear or hate change - but it will be an exceptional OS that builds on Win 8 but takes the shell and underlying concept even further.  Not only will it be leaner and faster, it will have an improved shell and security with even greater stability and reliability.  Not everybody's going to be happy with the GUI, given some Metro features will be retained for the convenience of some, but those feature will most likely be able to be sidestepped and the OS made to look and behave like Win 7... which is how I've used Win 8 all along and never known the difference except it's faster.

Starkers when the majority of the computing world says Windows 8 sucks who are you gonna believe?

Dunno, how many of 'em were unduly influenced prior to release and never actually tried it?

Word of mouth advertising can do alot to help sell something.... the same also works in reverse.

Word of mouth can be used to sink a product before it has a chance... and so-called experts did that with Vista and Win 8.

Neither were that bad.  Admittedly, Win 7 was a better OS than Vista, but it never would have existed in that format without Vista.

The same goes with Win 9!  Without the under the hood changes that came with Vista, Win 7 and Win 8, Win 9 would just be a glorified XP with as bit of bling.

In other words, OS improvements occur only when past editions are examined, assessed and the not so good bits are updated.

I wasn't talking about experts who say 8 is bad. I'm talking about normal everyday people who try it and pass the word along that 8 sucks. Why do you think there was such a big push to bring back the Start menu?

I personally do not give a flying fuck what other people say concerning Windows version.

I love Vista, see. It's the best Windows version I've ever used. If Win9 comes any close to it I'm gonna hump Gates' leg.

'Critiques' and so called 'experts' can go fuck themselves, imo. They are pointless/useless.

I'm just gonna wait and see.

OS? Bugger 'em all. 

It be the processor wot makes Snowy's poota great!

Okay, my 2 cents worth is that the opinion of an 'expert' telling you whether a OS is good or not doesn't take into account of how you use your computer.  When a new OS is released it is up to the individual to figure out if updating is required based upon their needs. 

Whether you install a copy of the new OS or read about it or see it demonstrated to make a decision on it is up to the user. 

Philly0381

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Okay, my 2 cents worth is that the opinion of an 'expert' telling you whether a OS is good or not doesn't take into account of how you use your computer.  When a new OS is released it is up to the individual to figure out if updating is required based upon their needs. 

Whether you install a copy of the new OS or read about it or see it demonstrated to make a decision on it is up to the user. 



 

 

 

That's pretty much it, Philly, it is up to the user.  However, some so-called experts see it as their duty to save unsuspecting users from themselves and gernerally give new OSes bad press... and once a view/thought to update is tainted it's pretty much ruined and the user can't justify the cost of a bad; not so good; crap OS.

Frankly, I'd like to see Microsoft and other software developers suing these so-called experts for loss of income; libel; slander; opening their mouths, anything just to shut the fechers up.  Just for once I'd like to see users going into stores to buy the new OS without any pre-conceived notions planted by half-assed journalists who think they are power users when many grandmothers would have a better idea.

The Pirate has spoken

An actually somewhat useful troubleshooter that they spend more than 5 minutes on...

I know, ts unrealistic, but I have to hope.

You don't get it Starkers. It's not experts telling people Windows 8 sucks. It's neighbors telling neighbors or random everyday people telling that person at the big box store to avoid Windows 8. I'm no expert, but I tell people to use 7.

Really?  Are you sure.......you come across so 'expert'-like........hehe