Rating Trolling

Friday, July 11, 2014 by Island Dog | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

I was made aware today (again) of someone rating trolling as I call it.  This is where someone is purposely giving a skin a "1" rating to bring down the ratings.  We (the moderators and admins) have been doing this long enough to know what a fair and reasonable rating is, and even giving leeway to that it's easy to see where someone is just doing to harm a skin rating.

The surprising part is this is done by people who have been here for years and are ranking members of the site.

Ratings have always been a touchy subject, but there comes a point where the actions of one member to clearly harm another members skin is something we won't tolerate.  As an example, we deleted over 30 "1" ratings made by one person on competing skins in the same category.  

From here on I will demote any member regardless of their current ranking who is doing this in a clearly malicious manner.

 

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LightStar
Reply #21 Friday, July 11, 2014 6:41 PM

MadDeez

it wasn't me! i swear it wasn't.

anywho, this is long overdue and i commend the mods for taking this action.

 

I know it was you John!  

You still hanging around down at The Computer Place? 

teddybearcholla
Reply #22 Friday, July 11, 2014 6:44 PM

vStyler
Reply #23 Friday, July 11, 2014 8:25 PM

 

Lol.. nice to see someone.. got it.

Jafo
Reply #24 Friday, July 11, 2014 9:43 PM

ANY User ranking/level is not exempt.

Remember...

The INTENT of User ratings is to assist in the General Population's/visitors' capacity to have skins graded for professional/expert/experienced comparison.

To be guided by other users' CONSIDERED opinion/s regarding the QUALITY of the skins/works.

In other words...if a person visiting Wincustomize sees a skin with 5 stars he/she can be reasonably confident that it is a GOOD skin via the consensus of our experienced opinions.

Same applies to a one star -rated skin - that it really could be 'better' than it is.

 

If it were up to me [and it just might be] I would see the resulting 'demotions' graded...ie.  the bigger you are the harder you fall...and that would mean....no matter what level you had attained...a drive-by would see you reduced to 'citizen'.

RedneckDude
Reply #25 Saturday, July 12, 2014 12:17 AM

If it were up to me [and it just might be] I would see the resulting 'demotions' graded...ie. the bigger you are the harder you fall...and that would mean....no matter what level you had attained...a drive-by would see you reduced to 'citizen'

I assume, if you'd consider that action, that you can tell, without reasonable doubt, when a drive by is being done? For sure, no mistakes?

 

I hope I'm not showing my ignorance by asking that....lol.    

RedneckDude
Reply #26 Saturday, July 12, 2014 12:19 AM

And, having said that, what about those who rate high because they are friends, not really based on the work done? I mean, you know it happens.

 

To me, it's the same thing as the topic here, only reversed. 

PoSmedley
Reply #27 Saturday, July 12, 2014 12:45 AM

vStyler
I mean why not take action over 'Fugazi Fiving' too?

RedneckDude
And, having said that, what about those who rate high because they are friends, not really based on the work done? I mean, you know it happens.

THAT'S a Faguzi.

I think it's a lot easier to spot the drive-by's, especially multiples by one person on one particular person. After that, whattaya gonna do...accuse someone of supporting a skinner?...accuse 'em of being 'freinds'?

Then we're not skinners anymore. Then it's like,  "This is a friend of mine." That means you're a 'skinner'. Now if I said instead, this is a friend of ours that would mean you a made guy or a Master skinner. A Capiche?

amitsaran
Reply #28 Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:20 AM

I had once complained about it to Sir WOM a couple of years ago ... coz it was frequently happening with my uploads and the matter was resolved ... and recently noticed it with one of my dream uploads again ... though I really thank the mods ... they've taken care of it

Jafo
Reply #29 Saturday, July 12, 2014 3:02 AM

RedneckDude

Quoting Jafo, reply 24If it were up to me [and it just might be] I would see the resulting 'demotions' graded...ie. the bigger you are the harder you fall...and that would mean....no matter what level you had attained...a drive-by would see you reduced to 'citizen'

I assume, if you'd consider that action, that you can tell, without reasonable doubt, when a drive by is being done? For sure, no mistakes?

 

I hope I'm not showing my ignorance by asking that....lol.    

Yes, I can tell.  Been doing this since 2001.....13 years to practise ...

doortech1
Reply #30 Saturday, July 12, 2014 4:05 AM

I agree an exaggerated rating in either direction is doing no good for any skinner or user, not just the low side of rating.

 

That said, I know I have gotten the friend rating before and probably will again, just what friends do, as is what a non friend does with low. , deliberate ratings.  I cry foul on me, I am guilty of both, so sorry, don,t demote me, I just went up!

I will be nicer.

neone6
Reply #31 Saturday, July 12, 2014 4:53 AM

doortech1
I cry foul on me, I am guilty of both, so sorry, don,t demote me, I just went up!
I will be nicer.
Well, you seem to be honest about it telling it here as the mods see everything. Many of us are probably guilty of doing both Up ratings as well as drive by's, but most of us are probably not notorious down-raters as such.

-This thread will hopefully make all of us better community members trying to rate fair in the future or choose not to rate at all if we feel the skinner is "too close to home" to give a "bad" rating, etc.

DrJBHL
Reply #32 Saturday, July 12, 2014 5:32 AM

Not a question of friendship or not.

A REAL friend will tell you what he/she sees both good and bad. Also, will help you hide the body.

 

 

neone6
Reply #33 Saturday, July 12, 2014 6:55 AM

DrJBHL
Also, will help you hide the body.
Now that's funi

bleumart
Reply #34 Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:37 AM

Watch me someone hide my body, if you do not want to end up like me! (Be Right)

don5318
Reply #35 Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:52 AM

Oh no, you aren't gonna turn me in are you Andy?

With that said, I agree with you ID, We are a community of adults (well some of us) who share a common bond-skinning, it is with that bond that we can/should be fair in critiquing ones work, and from the critiguing ( be it star ratings, downloads, or comments)we can grow from than to be a better skinner, and person, except Andy ... just kidding Andy, you've been a real help in getting me back into skinning WBs, I'd been away from it for a long time, and frankly lost confidence, but you pulled me through, and now I'm enjoying it again, and that's what I mean by the community helping one another instead of trying to hurt another by doing drive by ratings, so ID my hat off to you!

RedneckDude
Reply #36 Saturday, July 12, 2014 11:24 AM

don5318
so ID my hat off to you!

Bleumart's hat's off to everyone!  His head too....lol..     

bleumart
Reply #37 Saturday, July 12, 2014 12:28 PM

 

moshi
Reply #38 Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:29 AM

if a single one-star rating has such an effect, the overall number of ratings on such a submission must be VERY low, what makes the the whole system worthless. maybe ratings should only show after a significant amount of ratings has been given.

i'd probably give the majority of the Deskscapes section a one-star rating as well, the of original content there is marginal. but don't worry, i neither care enough, nor do i even know if Wincustomize actually works with my browser in this regard.

neone6
Reply #39 Sunday, July 13, 2014 6:53 AM

don5318
except Andy
I'll drag ya body into the woods alright, 

-You got the startmenu fix in the mail 

sydneysiders
Reply #40 Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:08 AM

I was made aware today (again) of someone rating trolling as I call it.

I suspected as much when I saw the lovely 'Electric Blue' at 1 1/2 stars the day after upload... ridiculous... even after fiving to combat it, it only came up to 2 1/2 so I reckon the 'downrater' is doing it soon after they are uploaded as the first rating seems to set the pace until there are quite a number of added ratings to equalise it...

 

As an example, we deleted over 30 "1" ratings made by one person on competing skins in the same category.

someone needs to get a life if they have that much time to devote to downing others... 

 

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