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Tuesday, November 26, 2002 by Delicious | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I know this is not the forum to ask but I was wondering anyone thinks it is right to ban smokers from outside the entrance of a building.
Seems there is a law in the town I live that prohibits smokers from lighting up within 25 feet of an entrance of a building.
Seems there is a law in the town I live that prohibits smokers from lighting up within 25 feet of an entrance of a building.
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paxx
Reply #2 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:20 PM
Reply #2 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:20 PM
Ridiculous.
I quit smoking but I think anti-smoke persecution is getting absurd.
Yet, they won't ban cars (1000 times more polluting and harmful) from 25 feet of the building, will they?
I heard of a town in the US that outlawed smoking in the town completely. Even in your own home. Don't know the name of the town, I don't even know if it's true. Probably not, but it will get there.
What IS true is a story where a woman got sued for smoking in her own apartment, when a asthmatic child that lived in the apartment under hers died. Very sad for the kid, but heck, the woman was in her own apartment. OK, sue the building owner for bad ventilation, but for crying out loud, give me a break. Or actually, give smokers a break.
I quit smoking but I think anti-smoke persecution is getting absurd.
Yet, they won't ban cars (1000 times more polluting and harmful) from 25 feet of the building, will they?
I heard of a town in the US that outlawed smoking in the town completely. Even in your own home. Don't know the name of the town, I don't even know if it's true. Probably not, but it will get there.
What IS true is a story where a woman got sued for smoking in her own apartment, when a asthmatic child that lived in the apartment under hers died. Very sad for the kid, but heck, the woman was in her own apartment. OK, sue the building owner for bad ventilation, but for crying out loud, give me a break. Or actually, give smokers a break.
geekboy2000
Reply #3 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:32 PM
Reply #3 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:32 PM
Couldn't agree more, paxx. I'm a smoker, and I completely understand that it irritates people. I respect all non-smoker's wishes with respect to not smoking in their cars, houses, near them at a restaurant (I'll eat in the non-smoking section), etc. Again, I understand that it's a habit *I* enjoy, but that it's no picnic for non-smokers. But, having said that, how long will it be before pregnant women are actually prosecuted for attempted murder, if they light up after conception? I actually find it hard to believe a case like that hasn't been brought before the courts here in the US yet. I'm a firm believer in: "Do what you want with you and yours, but leave me and mine alone". These days, that line is being crossed with frightening regularity.
geekboy2000
Reply #4 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:36 PM
Reply #4 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:36 PM
Ms. Sally: I think I'd have to challenge that one. 
But, there might be cases where that law makes sense. For example, offices and places of employment often frown upon having a gathering of smokers outside their door. I smoke, but I can totally understand that. On the other hand, if it's a public building, and that 25 foot mark is on public property, I think I'd have to test the law.
But, there might be cases where that law makes sense. For example, offices and places of employment often frown upon having a gathering of smokers outside their door. I smoke, but I can totally understand that. On the other hand, if it's a public building, and that 25 foot mark is on public property, I think I'd have to test the law.
Kinrik
Reply #5 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:44 PM
Reply #5 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:44 PM
well, I'm allergic to burning tobaccoo, among other burning plant matter...something causes a reaction where the blood vessels thin and break in my nose and cause nose bleeding and major headaches. I have a hard time being at amusement parks where the smoking is ok, and you'd figure the outside air would carry it away, huh?
i dunno though. it doesn't seem particularly fair to herd a group together to light up, but it does make it easier for me to breathe...
i dunno though. it doesn't seem particularly fair to herd a group together to light up, but it does make it easier for me to breathe...
WOM
Reply #6 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:47 PM
Reply #6 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:47 PM
If I'am not mistaken you can't smoke at Texas stadium the baseball park where the Rangers play. Might be wrong.
Delicious
Reply #7 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:50 PM
Reply #7 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:50 PM
I didn't think about smoking sections of a restaurant. If it is illegal to smoke within 25 feet of an entrance to a public building then how does that apply to inside a smoking section.
The anti smoking campaign should be directed towards an anti greed campaign instead.
As someone once said, "It's all nickels and dimes, Arthur"
The anti smoking campaign should be directed towards an anti greed campaign instead.
As someone once said, "It's all nickels and dimes, Arthur"
WOM
Reply #8 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:01 PM
Reply #8 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:01 PM
SlowNeasy, I'am already rolling my own. It's cheaper and it gives me something to do while I'am watching TV. Can roll 5 packs an hour. Comes to about $13 a carton.
Jafo
Reply #9 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:02 PM
Reply #9 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:02 PM
When I'm 'working' at the Grands Prix I smoke....partly as a stress-reliever, partly for something to 'do' when things 'can' get quiet and boring...but then may not smoke again till the next race meeting. [OK, so I'm a bit weird]....
Being a spectator at a race meeting is one thing, but to be 'on your toes', concentrating on cars, drivers and car numbers, as they wizz by at 260 clicks [and more] and be able to tell if the smoke is from a deflating tyre or an engine whose ups and downs are about to go 'sideways', or, did Schumi REALLY deliberately nerf Hill and win the championship [he didn't] and who DOES belong to that little lump of carbon fibre on race-line and has anyone hit it yet, and where is the lead car and have the 'blues' been shown to those being lapped and why is that twit sitting in the tree over the track and did 12 pass 3 under yellows and where ARE the bloody numbers on a Williams anyway and........
Being a spectator at a race meeting is one thing, but to be 'on your toes', concentrating on cars, drivers and car numbers, as they wizz by at 260 clicks [and more] and be able to tell if the smoke is from a deflating tyre or an engine whose ups and downs are about to go 'sideways', or, did Schumi REALLY deliberately nerf Hill and win the championship [he didn't] and who DOES belong to that little lump of carbon fibre on race-line and has anyone hit it yet, and where is the lead car and have the 'blues' been shown to those being lapped and why is that twit sitting in the tree over the track and did 12 pass 3 under yellows and where ARE the bloody numbers on a Williams anyway and........
Koasati
Reply #10 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:09 PM
Reply #10 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:09 PM
New law in Texas prohibits smoking in restaurants, between the hours of 1 and 4 p.m., on Sunday. The new Blue Law I guess...... 
citats
Reply #11 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:18 PM
Reply #11 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:18 PM
Smaller buildings might not be an issue but if you ever pushed open a door on an office tower the wind funnels inside even on a calm day. one might aswell be inside. Having recently quite smoking myself I fully understand the addiction, and I always respect others health and would leave to a place I would not bother others...
one might aswell be inside. Having recently quite smoking myself I fully understand the addiction, and I always respect others health and would leave to a place I would not bother others...
ALMonty
Reply #12 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:08 AM
Reply #12 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:08 AM
I'm a smoker I'm smoking right now.I live in the Philadelphia area and their trying to ban smoking in bars. I think California banned smoking in ALL publc places.
Wom I roll my own too
Oh you mean tobacco 
Wom I roll my own too
Oh you mean tobacco 
bakerstreet
Reply #13 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:51 AM
Reply #13 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:51 AM
I think cigarettes are evil, monstrous things. That said, I smoke cigars often and a pipe from time to time. I can lean back and destroy a Macanudo and a half a glass of rum, and feel fine doing it. Someone hands me a thin, teeny cigarette, I take one good, long drag, and the room starts spinning. There is probably 20 times the tobacco in one of my cigars, and I don't feel a thing.
Call me paranoid, but the problem is that cigarette companies are actually pharmacutical companies that use cigarettes as a carrier instead of pills. I think moderate use of tobacco has never harmed anyone, but when it is chemically and genetically engineered...
As for the topic at hand the only time I am pissy about smoking is when children are present.
Call me paranoid, but the problem is that cigarette companies are actually pharmacutical companies that use cigarettes as a carrier instead of pills. I think moderate use of tobacco has never harmed anyone, but when it is chemically and genetically engineered...
As for the topic at hand the only time I am pissy about smoking is when children are present.
Vickey61
Reply #14 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:34 AM
Reply #14 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:34 AM
They have a restaurant here in Illinois where you can't smoke on Sunday's but thats ok with me I don't go there
werewolf
Reply #15 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:37 AM
Reply #15 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:37 AM
This may be an urban legend, but I thought I read a story about a woman in California who was smoking in her car while driving around some city, and got a ticket because her smoke was blowing back into a convertible behind her and the convertible folks called the cops. That's insane.
As for your building question, our office building (in Dallas, TX) made everybody go out back. Couldn't smoke anywhere else around or in the building. The building and the surrounding structures were laid out such that, when the winter winds started blowing, the structures would funnel the wind right through our smoking area. Felt like an arctic blast.
As for your building question, our office building (in Dallas, TX) made everybody go out back. Couldn't smoke anywhere else around or in the building. The building and the surrounding structures were laid out such that, when the winter winds started blowing, the structures would funnel the wind right through our smoking area. Felt like an arctic blast.
Chef Garry
Reply #16 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:51 AM
Reply #16 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:51 AM
I'm not a smoker and never have been. That said, I'm not particularly bothered by cigarette smoke although I know it is a problem for some like Kinrik. For others it's just a religious crusade.
Smoking indoors has been banned where I work. Not too uncommon I don't think. So smokers have taken to gathering outside the doors to the buildings. It can get cold in Canada so they want to indulge, yet stay warm. Problem is, they block the doors so you can't get in or out without being rude - they simply will not make way. I don't give a damn about the smoking, it's their inconsideration that bugs me. Whether or not it's a reaction to the indoor ban or not.
Now the employer is looking at banning smoking on campus altogether. This should create even more animosity. Great!
Smoking indoors has been banned where I work. Not too uncommon I don't think. So smokers have taken to gathering outside the doors to the buildings. It can get cold in Canada so they want to indulge, yet stay warm. Problem is, they block the doors so you can't get in or out without being rude - they simply will not make way. I don't give a damn about the smoking, it's their inconsideration that bugs me. Whether or not it's a reaction to the indoor ban or not.
Now the employer is looking at banning smoking on campus altogether. This should create even more animosity. Great!
geekboy2000
Reply #17 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:53 PM
Reply #17 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:53 PM
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Very reliable, excellent prices.
Keila
Reply #18 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:38 PM
Reply #18 Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:38 PM
Well for starters I am a smoker but since my son was a baby he has been asmatic so all the smoking is done outdoors. My husband and I don't go to bars any more because it is way too expensive and we like just eachothers company anyways. Point I am getting around to is that I can understand people who do not smoke not liking the smoke around them. Expecially a smoked filled room. I think that one of the real reasons for not allowing people to smoke right infront of a building is because it starts to block the enterance if there are too many out there. As for resturants I sit in the non smoking when with the kids and the smoking section when without. The bar thing does not pertain to me but I feel sorry for the owners not having a choice. Their bar, their rules! Rights are being taking away from more people then just smokers.
By the way, so the the land of the free does not tax me to death this is where I get my smokes.
http://www.yesmoke.com/index.php
By the way, so the the land of the free does not tax me to death this is where I get my smokes.
http://www.yesmoke.com/index.php
Old_Crab
Reply #19 Thursday, November 28, 2002 2:49 AM
Reply #19 Thursday, November 28, 2002 2:49 AM
www.pipesandcigars.com Plenty of tobacco sites of the web. Smoke a pipe. Actually about 38 different pipes. Not 38 at one time. Been smoking for about 30 years, and I'd never give it up. They'll have to pry the pipe out of my hand when I die with a crowbar.
craeonics
Reply #20 Thursday, November 28, 2002 3:55 AM
Reply #20 Thursday, November 28, 2002 3:55 AM
Perhaps the point is that it takes time for smoke to disperse. So if people are smoking in front of a building, it will definitely get carried inside as well.
Oi, how about a law requiring smokers to take a bath before entering a room with other people in it?
Oi, how about a law requiring smokers to take a bath before entering a room with other people in it?
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Reply #1 Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:16 PM