Will ObjectDock be continued or not ?

Thursday, February 27, 2014 by c242 | Discussion: ObjectDock

Hi,

as a long time customer and subscriber I PLEASE want an honest answer if ObjectDock is still in development or not and if it EVER will work right on 64-bit systems (shortcuts always pointing to c:\program files (x86)) problem. I am really sadly tired of the update politics and public relations on this matter at Stardock at the moment (again). Seen too many good SD-programs going down the drain I relied on (aka DesktopX / RightClick...).

A general update-plan would be great and also a new list of dicontinued apps. Please. CursorFX (Multiplicity incompatibilities) and IconPackagers continued bugs (aka the nightmare creating and always losing changes on packages) would be also interesting.

Please, no "But it works for me !" posts here, we ALL know, there are long time reported bugs that where never fixed.

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c242
Reply #61 Monday, April 28, 2014 10:16 AM

Well if this thread goes on I will get demoted and banned for speaking up again at some point. That was what always happened...

-TiM-
Reply #62 Monday, April 28, 2014 10:59 AM


Well if this thread goes on I will get demoted and banned for speaking up again at some point. That was what always happened...

THen let's get back to topic. I don't know if you recieved my PM, but maybe it's better to do this here so others may benefit from it also: regarding your 64-bit link problem, can you please explain what exactly you do to create those links? I mean every single click on your mouse! Since i'm working with no problems on a Windows 8.1 Pro (x64) "Update" and had no problems with this so far on 64-bit systems, i may be able to solve this when you are willing to bring in the informations and maybe do a little of testing ...

For me, i use three docks simultanously on a two monitor set-up on the second (right) screen: a taskbar replacement on top with full folder preview, a systray replacement bottom right and a tabbed main dock with all the links bottom middle. First question here would be if you are using a tabbed dock or an animated one (those that are created as a default dock after installation) as they are not the same technically.

When i create a new link, independent from the source or path, i disable icon locking, simply drag the file to the dock and re-enable icon locking. That's it. However, i guess you are doing something very similar and you also said that it only is problematic when you are linking to "C:\Program Files", if i understood that correct? And when you try to use the link, it only points to "C:\Program Files (x86)" or does it have the correct and full path and just replaces "Program Files" by "Program Files (x86)"?

That far for now ... awaiting input!

HG_Eliminator
Reply #63 Monday, April 28, 2014 11:51 AM

I would not count on being demoted nor banned for asking simple questions. Personal attacks, belligerent attitudes and being rude can see one be censured.

I do not work for stardock, I give my time freely to the community. Why because the community has given me so much over the last 17+ years. A debt I could never repay..

I did not jump in to scare/threaten anyone nor to be a SD fan boy.. I have worked first hand with many of these guys for over a decade.. Beta testing, bug reporting etc.. I know they care about their product, I know they want it to be the best on the planet, and I know if they had knowledge and could they would tell us if it was headed towards a legacy product, they would.. The fact that they haven't answered the question makes me believe they just don't know.

I just really did not want to see this thread degrade like some of the threads past, and have a bunch of hard feelings over it..

 

Carl.. over the years you should know me by now.. I'm fair and honest with the community and try to keep the peace. I care about your feelings on the matter as much as the dev's and would be standing there defending you if the tables were turned.

 

Please remember folks the SD staff just like the Wincustomize staff have always been like family to the community. Most of us were community members long before we stepped up.. Just treat each other with respect, words said in haste can never be retracted once said..

 

 Cheers.. HG

c242
Reply #64 Monday, April 28, 2014 12:14 PM

I highly respect Your post and I am really touched by that aand I meant no disrespect to You nor coumminity helpers nor any Stardock employee.

But: I would respect something like 'The fact that they haven't answered the question makes me believe they just don't know.' for Freeware. But we are talking a whole selling product line here.

I am not sure, if we would really have seen such an amount of decreasing IconPackages for example, if IconPackaging wasn't such a frustraing process up to just gving up to even try. DesktopX was the same.

And back to topic I am sure, ObjectDock would still sell well with some bugfixing and feature adding (like integrating Stacks for example).

 

HG_Eliminator
Reply #65 Monday, April 28, 2014 1:23 PM

It could be that the Powers that make those decisions haven't passed the word yet.. it could be that with all the new os's and stuff their having difficulty  trying to keep up.. it could be that MS releasing patches fubars their fixes and they have to back and start over, thus delaying updates/fixes....It could be that some bug's aren't seen as critical and fall to the wayside so they can focus on more critical ones.. it could be that they are totally reworking OD and dont have the time to post status update's. it could be their totally reworking OD and the other programs and have been sworn to secrecy till release.. (I'm personally hoping for the latter)

 

At this point all we can do Is speculate and hope for the best. They will tell us whats going on when they can.. I know the wait can be exhausting at times. But typically SD makes it worth our while.

-TiM-
Reply #66 Monday, April 28, 2014 4:22 PM

HG_Eliminator

It could be that the Powers that make those decisions haven't passed the word yet.. it could be that with all the new os's and stuff their having difficulty  trying to keep up.. it could be that MS releasing patches fubars their fixes and they have to back and start over, thus delaying updates/fixes....It could be that some bug's aren't seen as critical and fall to the wayside so they can focus on more critical ones.. it could be that they are totally reworking OD and dont have the time to post status update's. it could be their totally reworking OD and the other programs and have been sworn to secrecy till release.. (I'm personally hoping for the latter)

At this point all we can do Is speculate and hope for the best. They will tell us whats going on when they can.. I know the wait can be exhausting at times. But typically SD makes it worth our while.

I like the way you see it (even that was clear to me before) and i also hope for the latter. It kind of was like that before ObjectDock 2. However, it is strange that this applicatioin seems to be always the last one taken care of. Or i just have luck with the selection of the other Stardock products i use, maybe.

Neil Banfield
Reply #67 Monday, April 28, 2014 6:40 PM

I cannot comment on the ObjectDock bits as that's not an area I am involved in and I know next to nothing about it, but I can comment on why some apps get updates and others do not.

Each app has a development team and the development team for one product or group of products may not be involved with another.  So for example Start8, ModernMix and WindowBlinds all share the same development team, and Fences and ObjectDock have a different team (but share one themselves).

So that's why a product such as say Launch8 gets an update when ObjectDock does not.  It is not a question of priority, it is simply a case of the availability of the development team for those products.

I will say that in general you should purchase a product for what it does today and not what it might do in the future, but that applies to all the products or games.

starkers
Reply #68 Tuesday, April 29, 2014 6:55 AM

Well I just installed ObjectDock 2 Pro on my Asus notebook, Windows 8.1 x64, and thus far I have been able been able to open the start menu on the right of my screen using the docklet, and have successfully added a 64 bit version of 7Zip from the program's folder, though not from a shortcut, as was expected.  However, while this may not be the preferred method for some, and drag and drop for all dock items would be nice, it's not that great an inconvenience to me.  It may take a little longer to add items via the program folder, but it's not like I will have to repeat it over and over once I have to dock set up to my liking.

Yes, having said I can live with it, I along with everyone else, would appreciate that some love and attention be given to OD2 to improve 64 bit functionality, etc.

Quicksilver007
Reply #69 Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:39 AM

HG_Eliminator
This desktop customization software deals directly with the OS's innards, in way's most folks couldn't even understand or want to. One little patch from MS could undo month's worth of work and send them back to the drawing board again. Much less trying to develop it for multiple os's at the same time. I would also Imagine that constantly getting griped at ad's to the stress they experience daily trying to sort this shit out.

HG_Eliminator
If at the least keep it civil, I can guarantee these guys aren't just sitting in the back drinking coffee and laughing at your dismay. Ive known some of them for years and their just not like that.

HG_Eliminator
For those who think they can... I challenge you to do it better.

 

Well said!

 

 

HG_Eliminator
Please remember folks the SD staff just like the Wincustomize staff have always been like family to the community. Most of us were community members long before we stepped up.. Just treat each other with respect, words said in haste can never be retracted once said..

 

Well said again HG!

 

HG_Eliminator
But typically SD makes it worth our while

 

Those who have been in the community for awhile can attest to that!

 

 

c242
Reply #70 Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:05 AM

"But typically SD makes it worth our while"

 

Seeing today what has been done with Multiplicity lately, I must say : 'Hell, yes !'

Uvah
Reply #71 Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:41 AM

Personally I like the anticipation. This way when something like an update or new arrival comes along I have something to get excited about.

starkers
Reply #72 Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:17 AM


Personally I like the anticipation. This way when something like an update or new arrival comes along I have something to get excited about.

That's a bit like appreciating the bad times as well... so you know the difference and can really, really appreciate and enjoy the good times.

As for the update, well I don't like to complain and will make do with workarounds, but hopefully the guys/gals will get around to it soon and give OD some attention.

Phoon
Reply #73 Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:34 AM

Seeing today what has been done with Multiplicity lately

Lately as in..?

Jafo
Reply #74 Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:42 AM


Quoting c242, reply 70Seeing today what has been done with Multiplicity lately

Lately as in..?

https://forums.wincustomize.com/453873/page/1/  ...

joeKnowledge
Reply #75 Friday, May 2, 2014 12:51 AM

The only suggestion I can offer about this and the issues some people have verses other not having any issues is this: Many times when I had issues with Stardock software it was because something was "off" about my system. It could be registry errors, a program that needed to be deleted, or I had a virus/spam/whatever that needs to be taken out.

 

I am not running OD on my Win8 system (I was thinking about doing it though because my laptop is a touch screen and iit would be so much easier to use OD than Fences - unless Fences has some setting where you can hit an icon once... but still ts just animated awesome like OD)

 

Another suggestion:

Use ObjectDock 1.9... its a sucky suggestion but it might just work better on the system. Is ObjectDock a 32 bit application? Not that it should matter that much but it may be part of the issue.

Using ObjectDock 1.9 also might even fix the issue, then re-install OD2 again and see what happens.

 

My Honest Opinion:

Personally I think ObjectDock will be updated eventually, but keep in mind that MS seems to keep updating Win8. Maybe when things settle down with Win8, their will be an update. Gotta keep in mind that most OD users are probably on older systems and they are doing just fine. 

I also remember back in the day when Apple tried to sue Stardock about ObjectDock and they failed is a big way. I'm sure Stardock wants to keep what makes windows even more usable and fun. ObjectDock has to be one of the most popular system apps it has (I'm guessing) except for maybe Windowblinds (and maybe Dreamscapes).

 

Yeah I know.... the original reason why this thread was made:

I know the stuff I wrote doesn't even come close to answering the original reason why the thread was made, but I hope it helps. To reiterate, I would definitely run a Registry check, see if their is any spyware/malware  on the system, then un-install and re-install ObjectDock is necessary and see what happens.

starkers
Reply #76 Friday, May 2, 2014 7:50 AM

Hey Joe [think there's a song in there somewhere] we gotta stop meeting like this.  You've been back such a short while and this is the 2nd thread we've appeared in together and I don't want people gossipping about what they think we're up to.... we're not the only conspiracy theorists here, you know.

c242
Reply #77 Friday, May 2, 2014 1:18 PM

I can assure You I know 100 % what is going on on my rig as I am certainly no newbee when it comes to computers and using windows.

No 3rd party software or malware to blame here.

starkers
Reply #78 Friday, May 2, 2014 2:14 PM


I can assure You I know 100 % what is going on on my rig as I am certainly no newbee when it comes to computers and using windows.

No 3rd party software or malware to blame here.

Same here!  There's no crap on my rig, either... gets scanned every day for nasties and spyware, etc.

However, prevention is the best cure.

c242
Reply #79 Friday, May 2, 2014 2:53 PM

23 years of IT employment/management should have gotten me there.   

starkers
Reply #80 Saturday, May 3, 2014 1:15 AM


23 years of IT employment/management should have gotten me there.   

Almost 10 years of being here should have gotten me there, too, given how many people wiser than myself frequent the place and offer great advice on PC management/protection.  However, it pays to remain always vigilant against the various threats that keep popping up - like this latest IE vulnerability - and taking precautions to protect one's self and wisely using the internet, etc.

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