Will ObjectDock be continued or not ?

Thursday, February 27, 2014 by c242 | Discussion: ObjectDock

Hi,

as a long time customer and subscriber I PLEASE want an honest answer if ObjectDock is still in development or not and if it EVER will work right on 64-bit systems (shortcuts always pointing to c:\program files (x86)) problem. I am really sadly tired of the update politics and public relations on this matter at Stardock at the moment (again). Seen too many good SD-programs going down the drain I relied on (aka DesktopX / RightClick...).

A general update-plan would be great and also a new list of dicontinued apps. Please. CursorFX (Multiplicity incompatibilities) and IconPackagers continued bugs (aka the nightmare creating and always losing changes on packages) would be also interesting.

Please, no "But it works for me !" posts here, we ALL know, there are long time reported bugs that where never fixed.

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-TiM-
Reply #41 Saturday, April 26, 2014 3:03 PM

This expresses all I ever intended to write about the Stardock Experience.

 

Thanks c242!

However – and just to be clear – this is not meant as some "Stardock-bashing" or anything (even while it seems that nobody by now has seen it as such). I like the Stardock products a lot. I would not complain about something i don't care about. And in most other cases (at least those i also use like Start8, WindowBlinds and Fences), everything is fine (for me) so far. But the faulty one here seems to be still ObjectDock, as it ever was, as long as i use Stardock software.

And to be honest: i don't get it, really. -.- If they would at least tell us what the problem is! To less sales? Technically to complicated (come on; it's a dock and you guys are programmers, doing well with every other product i use), the all time favorite: "Microsoft is to be blamed" ? It could be even "no time because of higher priorities on other products" ... but for SO long again and again while other products are udpated sometimes as fast as one can report bugs!?

I would shake my head a little more in missunderstanding but at the end it will fall of thanks to this case ... However, how about using this thread as a "bug-collection thread" then to be more productive and helpful? If c242 agrees, of course (didn't mean to hijack you thread, man! ). Maybe we even can help each other out where Stardock doesn't care?

(Off-topic: Does anyone know is StarDOCK has some meaning? Was that their first product or such? Even sader, if. They even do docks for other companies, like the Dell dock, and don't care! Back then, with the Impulse struggles, i thought something else. I never wanted or used that way of distribution and in the end it failed. And support was, what was short at hand also – especially for ObjectDock, again! -.- Yet, then they had a good reason while trying to get rid of Impulse.)

 

Gaspershooters
Reply #42 Saturday, April 26, 2014 9:25 PM

Full of nonsenses........likes kids kept asking for attentions to disrupt what adult have been doing on the work. 

Wizard1956
Reply #43 Saturday, April 26, 2014 9:35 PM

Gaspershooters

Full of nonsenses........likes kids kept asking for attentions to disrupt what adult have been doing on the work. 
The only "nonsense" in this thread (which IS a support thread) is your remark. Did you have anything relevant to the discussion to add? If not......

gevansmd
Reply #44 Saturday, April 26, 2014 10:19 PM

(1) The first time with a custom blind, it works correctly.  

(2)  The second and subsequent times it's invoked I get the partial menu.

(3)  Every time with a standard Aero blind works correctly.

 

It does work correctly with non custom blinds every time as you can see, and the first time with a custom blind.

gevansmd
Reply #45 Saturday, April 26, 2014 10:21 PM

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-TiM-
Reply #46 Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:40 AM

Gaspershooters

Full of nonsenses........likes kids kept asking for attentions to disrupt what adult have been doing on the work. 

Probably i would agree if we would ask for updates to a product that was released yesterday. But if you would have read all the posts, you should have understood the history of this special case – even Stardock has, they just say nothing at all. I also see several honorable, experienced and long time members of the board on this thread agreeing, so this cannot be as false as you put it, right? Asides that, Wizard1956 again has said everything important in quite fewer words than i could have done.

So let us ignore the "kids" and get back to topic, adults! (Some day this will mean trouble for me, hm? ^^) @gevansmd: As you describe your problem, it seems that it really is one of all the problems i found myself with WindowBlinds. However, are you maybe using some of this Aero tools for tuning transparency or theme patchers to allow customized themes? They often cause the same problems. Besides that, you are not using Start8 on your system (of course since you cannot on Windows 7 as far as the website here says), but it fixes several of this problems and also works in co-op with WindowBlinds and recognizes it is installed as synchronizes some options between the two applications.

So my guess would be, if you where on Windows 8 with Stat8, your problem most likely would dissappear by itself. Besides that, Start8 also draws the start menu somewhere else instead of its default position bottom left of the screen and directly above the task bar (wich is greatly annoying as you cannot change that, by the way) and it does so well. It also skins correctly. But i have found several WindowBlinds skins that cause errors especially with the start menu and especially when using transparency (and, yes, transparency is possible even on Windows 8 with WindowBlinds installed). Maybe somehing of this is helpfull to you? (Funny you are orientating your menu to the right side as you are most likely right-handed; thought that was just me with some menu set-ups. ^^)

Last guess would be asking some of the good sites that answer questions like www.askvg.com or www.howtogeek.com . The friendly guys over there are really good at what they do and normally answer as they can.

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #47 Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:43 AM

See post #34

JuniorCrooks
Reply #48 Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:19 AM

I read most post here but not everyone so I may be lacking a little info from other post. I will say that I am using Windows 8.1 64bit and use ObjectDock. I just did a test to determine if |I suffer from the same fate and added 2 different 64bit program shortcuts to the dock from Start 8. Both shortcuts worked fine. I also use the start menu docklet with no problem and I also use the system tray icon feature with no problem. I am not saying that there are no issues with Objectdock but it is strange that the issues are not consistent with every user. I have always used ObjectDock and was never a fan of Fences.   

-TiM-
Reply #49 Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:44 AM

JuniorCrooks

I read most post here but not everyone so I may be lacking a little info from other post. I will say that I am using Windows 8.1 64bit and use ObjectDock. I just did a test to determine if |I suffer from the same fate and added 2 different 64bit program shortcuts to the dock from Start 8. Both shortcuts worked fine. I also use the start menu docklet with no problem and I also use the system tray icon feature with no problem. I am not saying that there are no issues with Objectdock but it is strange that the issues are not consistent with every user. I have always used ObjectDock and was never a fan of Fences.   

I agree with that. I will try to figure out with c242 when he reponds to my offering for help but i'm also not affected by the mentioned x64-plattform bug myself. However, that means nothing in the end since it may be a bug simply not occuring on my systems as you put it right already. Most of the bugs i personally found on my systems weren't even mentioned on the forums at all (as far as i know) but support staff reproduced and reported them to the developers.

I guess the trick is to find out what is a bug and what is a local problem on someones system. Therefore i suggested using this thread as a self-helping group. I'm really experienced and may have the one or other solution found already or give some directions maybe – depends on what the problem is. As far as Stardock does nothing, that may be our best guess.

JuniorCrooks
Reply #50 Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:48 AM

Right on Tim.

moshi
Reply #51 Sunday, April 27, 2014 5:09 AM

Gaspershooters

Full of nonsenses........likes kids kept asking for attentions to disrupt what adult have been doing on the work. 

i still wonder what this "gaspershooters" persona is all about? it seems many of your posts are about attacking people that report bugs. now i don't know any developer that wouldn't appreciate bug reports, as it helps to improve software. Stardock might of course be an exception, but i still don't see why you seem to be on a mission to create a hostile atmosphere

Gaspershooters
Reply #52 Sunday, April 27, 2014 5:30 AM

That's your opinions,I respected that,however,by accusing me always attacked people I have to disagree. Sometimes,there were things that easy to understand/contemplate/realize than kept pestering trivia that have been answered/known. I believe I did help users on some issues and that can be verified via my records. To put it simply,I have just commented I really think,there is no specific personal attacks whatsoever. You want my mouth shut?? I will do that on this thread as someone advised. 

(Frankly,it's quite cliché that irrelevant topic (characteristics) being brought out just because comments are not nicey-nicey.)  

 

Neil Banfield
Reply #53 Sunday, April 27, 2014 5:57 AM

gevansmd

(1) The first time with a custom blind, it works correctly.  

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(2)  The second and subsequent times it's invoked I get the partial menu.

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(3)  Every time with a standard Aero blind works correctly.

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It does work correctly with non custom blinds every time as you can see, and the first time with a custom blind.

Actually your screenshot shows the issue with Aero.

Look at this (http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h313/gevansmd/startmenu3_zpsd6e06956.png) and look at the bottom just above the shutdown button.  Notice how the glass changes colour there as a line in line with the left hand side All Programs button.  That's because the image used on top right of the menu is not being painted.  All you are seeing is the blur with the OS blur colour.

As mentioned above it isn't as obvious with Aero simply because the image used on top of the blur is fairly transparent, but the issue is still there.

So the issue is a Windows 7 explorer one with repositioning the Start Menu not a WindowBlinds issue.

Gaspershooters
Reply #55 Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:56 PM

I don't have issues with you and I don't care who you are. Get along or not,I don't care. Move on,life goes on. As I said,it's quite "strange" people always tend to point out that because someone treats me badly/hurts my feeling or not agree with me,I have to let everyone know.   Grows up,kids.

 

(This is really get me tired,the last responds. Have you any questions/problems,just Pmed Mods or me.) 

HG_Eliminator
Reply #56 Monday, April 28, 2014 3:28 AM

I would wager some of it might have to do with the fact MS seems to be dropping Os's like flies lately. Not to mention 95,98 and XP from what I understand were fundamentally similar so I would think it was easier to keep up on them.

After XP was released developers had 6 long years to get stuff working smoothly.. but after Vista's release there have been 2 new Os's released, in just 5 years. With all the changes between vista, 7 and win8 I would think it may get a little hard to keep up at times. Especially considering most of the SD stuff isn't your typical "run on top of the desktop" type of programs..

This desktop customization software deals directly with the OS's innards, in way's most folks couldn't even understand or want to. One little patch from MS could undo month's worth of work and send them back to the drawing board again. Much less trying to develop it for multiple os's at the same time. I would also Imagine that constantly getting griped at ad's to the stress they experience daily trying to sort this shit out.

I know from first hand experience that a developer wants to see his product succeed, he loves to get stuff to work, he loves seeing folks enjoy his creation.. and revels in the Kudo's that come with it.

It would also seem that Neil stated one of the issues with the start menu was a limitation of the OS. So why still beat on that dead horse? I would also imagine that possibly some of the other bug's are along the same line.

If at the least keep it civil, I can guarantee these guys aren't just sitting in the back drinking coffee and laughing at your dismay. Ive known some of them for years and their just not like that.

 

For those who think they can... I challenge you to do it better.

 

HG.

 

neone6
Reply #57 Monday, April 28, 2014 7:26 AM

HG_Eliminator
For those who think they can... I challenge you to do it better.

 

HG.
Fukyea!!! HGE= 

DrJBHL
Reply #58 Monday, April 28, 2014 8:24 AM

HG_Eliminator
If at the least keep it civil, I can guarantee these guys aren't just sitting in the back drinking coffee and laughing at your dismay. Ive known some of them for years and their just not like that.

Exactly. Well said, HG.

c242
Reply #59 Monday, April 28, 2014 9:45 AM

HG_Eliminator
For those who think they can... I challenge you to do it better.

Again a Stardock/WC related person goes into that automatic 'defending Stardock at all costs' mode. You fail to understand what this is all about. It is less about the bugs, it is about the attitude not to inform customers anymore except for that few favorite toys, which are so high on the prioirity-list that the programmers simply have no chance to care for that other ugly kids anymore. It is not that I think the programmers are lazy or something.

Conclusion: If Stardock thinks some programs simply are not worth to be continued, so be it. But please be honest and say so. But as for now, I am still waiting for the answer to my original question.

-TiM-
Reply #60 Monday, April 28, 2014 10:08 AM

Conclusion: If Stardock thinks some programs simply are not worth to be continued, so be it. But please be honest and say so. But as for now, I am still waiting for the answer to my original question.

This exactly is the point. There is no need to "defend" Stardock as no one meant to harm them. And they do great work on most of the other products (i use). And no one has a problem with a little sarcasm where it fits, don't you?

The point here is, that this special product get's way less "love" (as c242 put it) than all the other i know and use personally. And if this is meant that way – or whatever the reason is – we are simply asking for an statement. It surely is more easy to wait for something you know they are working on instead of not knowing even that, right?

So i don't get why there are some people not understanding this simple thing or even need to "attack" other users (but i guess none of the people here really meant it that way). If it does not interrest you or you are not affected by the problems we others have, so why don't you just ignore our thread? Obviously here are more people having problems than those that have none (i myself do not share all the problems mentioned here). Of course, not every problem is a bug or Stardocks "fault", but some are – as their own support confirmed. And all that is not the question behind all this because it is clear already.

So, doesn't the so often called "netiquette" do not count for the Stardock forums? Come on guys, you can do better than that! In the end they will close the thread as off-topic and no one will benefit from it. Why not instead trying to help each other, gather informations for Stardock to watch and maybe, in the end, they will do something about it.

So, i will do a list and description of all the problems i have found so far shortly and post it here to be more constructive. Let's see what happens ...

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