Winona convicted. OJ still free. Just shoot me.
Saturday, November 9, 2002 by UBoB | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Ms. Ryder should try murder. Apparently, stealing from Saks is more heinous a crime. 
P.S.
Just a thought.
Winona is an excellent example that God is not only an artist, but also a perfectionist.
P.S.
Just a thought.
Winona is an excellent example that God is not only an artist, but also a perfectionist.
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paxx
Reply #23 Monday, November 11, 2002 12:14 PM
Reply #23 Monday, November 11, 2002 12:14 PM
How don't quite understand the paralel... ?
Both topics are completely unrelated. She IS guilty, she DID steal, so why should she be innocented? Because OJ got away with murder? I don't understand the logic in there.
I don't think she'll get the electric chair, you know.
Anyway, I think judges and juries should be informed of the new rules then: since OJ is free, from now on everybody else must also be found not guilty.
Both topics are completely unrelated. She IS guilty, she DID steal, so why should she be innocented? Because OJ got away with murder? I don't understand the logic in there.
I don't think she'll get the electric chair, you know.
Anyway, I think judges and juries should be informed of the new rules then: since OJ is free, from now on everybody else must also be found not guilty.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #24 Monday, November 11, 2002 1:53 PM
Reply #24 Monday, November 11, 2002 1:53 PM
Another famous person thinking they could get away with something just because of who they are. Give her life. Spoiled bitch.
messybuu
Reply #25 Monday, November 11, 2002 2:07 PM
Reply #25 Monday, November 11, 2002 2:07 PM
Well, OJ did pay in other ways... Alienation and tons of money.
UBoB
Reply #26 Monday, November 11, 2002 6:16 PM
At no point did I say she was innocent. At no point did I say OJ was guilty. If you found some inference in my original statement, well, I can't help that.
My only point was that the justice system is a farce. It is so inconsistent that it's a joke.
P.S.
My second point, and it was a completely separate point having nothing to do with the first point, is that she is an attractive woman. That's all.
I believe I'm allowed to make two separate statements in one thread.
Reply #26 Monday, November 11, 2002 6:16 PM
At no point did I say she was innocent. At no point did I say OJ was guilty. If you found some inference in my original statement, well, I can't help that.
My only point was that the justice system is a farce. It is so inconsistent that it's a joke.
P.S.
My second point, and it was a completely separate point having nothing to do with the first point, is that she is an attractive woman. That's all.
I believe I'm allowed to make two separate statements in one thread.
bakerstreet
Reply #27 Monday, November 11, 2002 6:41 PM
Reply #27 Monday, November 11, 2002 6:41 PM
Fuzzy is cranky. Actually, I'm an 'ankle-biter' of late...
sig101
Reply #28 Monday, November 11, 2002 7:00 PM
Reply #28 Monday, November 11, 2002 7:00 PM
Yah, the point was that the LA DA (who is an elected official) wanted to appear tough on "celebrity" crime and went after her full barrel and it was easy pickins.
Murder cases are a bit trickier for the DA to try and it's embarassing when they lose, especially if they bungle a case as they did with OJ. Now while Baretta is still cooling his heels in jail, the DA is not assured a conviction. And again, DA's run for re-election periodically so don't underestimate the impact that has on what cases they choose to prosecute in court.
In Ryder's case, for first offenses (evidently charges had not been pressed before in whatever other incidents there may have been) usually such things do not go to court (at significant taxpayer expense BTW) and are resolved by treatment, probation, restitution, etc. But there was no political downside for insisting on pursuing felony charges against Ryder since no special interest groups would be out there protesting.
Not so long ago, Halle Berry did an injury hit and run but was charged with a misdemeanor and got probation. (Civil suit is pending.) Ryder does a raid on Saks (not unlike, if rumors are correct, other celeb clientel are known to do on Rodeo Drive but who never seem to get prosecuted in court) and is a convicted felon. The Asst DA who tried the case insists that they are treating it just as an ordinary shoplifting case, then holds a press conference and makes the rounds of the morning talk shows.
Sure she should pay for what she did, but no doubt political motivations were involved in the way the DA chose to handle the case.
Murder cases are a bit trickier for the DA to try and it's embarassing when they lose, especially if they bungle a case as they did with OJ. Now while Baretta is still cooling his heels in jail, the DA is not assured a conviction. And again, DA's run for re-election periodically so don't underestimate the impact that has on what cases they choose to prosecute in court.
In Ryder's case, for first offenses (evidently charges had not been pressed before in whatever other incidents there may have been) usually such things do not go to court (at significant taxpayer expense BTW) and are resolved by treatment, probation, restitution, etc. But there was no political downside for insisting on pursuing felony charges against Ryder since no special interest groups would be out there protesting.
Not so long ago, Halle Berry did an injury hit and run but was charged with a misdemeanor and got probation. (Civil suit is pending.) Ryder does a raid on Saks (not unlike, if rumors are correct, other celeb clientel are known to do on Rodeo Drive but who never seem to get prosecuted in court) and is a convicted felon. The Asst DA who tried the case insists that they are treating it just as an ordinary shoplifting case, then holds a press conference and makes the rounds of the morning talk shows.
Sure she should pay for what she did, but no doubt political motivations were involved in the way the DA chose to handle the case.
UBoB
Reply #29 Monday, November 11, 2002 7:10 PM
Reply #29 Monday, November 11, 2002 7:10 PM
Another interesting tidbit:
A while back someone got the bright idea to capitalize a bit on this whole thing. He started a "Free Winona" campaign as a joke. He made t-shirts with the phrase on them. They sold like hotcakes. It has been recently reported that Saks has ordered a shipment of the t-shirts to sell in their stores.
But, as usual, we will continue to prosecute the individual to the fullest extent of the law and let the unfortunate and downtrodden corporations continue their good work in society.
A while back someone got the bright idea to capitalize a bit on this whole thing. He started a "Free Winona" campaign as a joke. He made t-shirts with the phrase on them. They sold like hotcakes. It has been recently reported that Saks has ordered a shipment of the t-shirts to sell in their stores.
But, as usual, we will continue to prosecute the individual to the fullest extent of the law and let the unfortunate and downtrodden corporations continue their good work in society.
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Reply #21 Monday, November 11, 2002 11:57 AM