Please, do something about it!
Wednesday, October 9, 2002 by adni18 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I am getting a lot of e-mails from people complaining that they can not reach my page in Wincustomize, I guess, that also they can't reach other authors with a lot of work, like treetog, BoXXi etc
They are waiting a lot and in the end, the most of times, they get a blank page!!!
The most of the people around the world they don't have very fast connections.
For the authors them selves, it is very easy and helpful the new style of their page, without the thumbnails, but for the members-visitors... it is a problem!
How about if the page will saw as the rest of categories?
5,10,20 thumbnails according to their preferences, with pages 1-2-3-4-5 etc
Even the best site can be better
They are waiting a lot and in the end, the most of times, they get a blank page!!!
The most of the people around the world they don't have very fast connections.
For the authors them selves, it is very easy and helpful the new style of their page, without the thumbnails, but for the members-visitors... it is a problem!
How about if the page will saw as the rest of categories?
5,10,20 thumbnails according to their preferences, with pages 1-2-3-4-5 etc
Even the best site can be better
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moshi
Reply #2 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 8:30 AM
Reply #2 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 8:30 AM
this subscription thing is turning into some kind of religous cult
i am pretty sure there are tens of thousands registered WindowBlinds users that have not subscribed to this site (yes, i know it is free for StarDock customers).
Adni made many skins, so his skins portofolio takes long to load, also i am pretty sure people like to see thumbnails as preview, just not as many. Adni´s idea is pretty good actually.
i am pretty sure there are tens of thousands registered WindowBlinds users that have not subscribed to this site (yes, i know it is free for StarDock customers).
Adni made many skins, so his skins portofolio takes long to load, also i am pretty sure people like to see thumbnails as preview, just not as many. Adni´s idea is pretty good actually.
Koasati
Reply #3 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 8:57 AM
Reply #3 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 8:57 AM
So what you're saying Bill, is that if I subscribe, my connection will get faster?
feline
Reply #5 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 9:25 AM
Reply #5 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 9:25 AM
feline decides to try an experiment
having just clicked on "show all authors skins" for adni18, on my work (a LOT faster than my home) connection, i get the following results:
after loading the page for 3.5 minutes, 120 items remaining to load
4 minutes - 84 items remaining
4.5 minutes - 63 items remaining
i stopped timing it at this point.
and before someone suggests subscribing, i already have, and this is a level 4 account, i just dont use SkinBrowser on this machine.
but if it will make people feel better i can repost this with a skin browser icon underneath
i think it is fair to say that for normal users a multi-page list of the authors works would be a good idea
having just clicked on "show all authors skins" for adni18, on my work (a LOT faster than my home) connection, i get the following results:
after loading the page for 3.5 minutes, 120 items remaining to load
4 minutes - 84 items remaining
4.5 minutes - 63 items remaining
i stopped timing it at this point.
and before someone suggests subscribing, i already have, and this is a level 4 account, i just dont use SkinBrowser on this machine.
but if it will make people feel better i can repost this with a skin browser icon underneath
i think it is fair to say that for normal users a multi-page list of the authors works would be a good idea
kith
Reply #6 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 9:50 AM
Reply #6 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 9:50 AM
I just loaded Adni's entire collection from home on a so-so cable connection in 42 seconds....
I'm all for anything that will help out the site's b/w issues. If that would help I hope they add it to the to do list.
I'm all for anything that will help out the site's b/w issues. If that would help I hope they add it to the to do list.
Koasati
Reply #7 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 9:52 AM
Bill...........I am an OD subscriber, so I have the top of the line access here.................but as feline has demonstrated, it takes much too long to load a page such as adni's skins.............. 
Reply #7 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 9:52 AM
Bill...........I am an OD subscriber, so I have the top of the line access here.................but as feline has demonstrated, it takes much too long to load a page such as adni's skins.............. 
feline
Reply #8 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 10:20 AM
Reply #8 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 10:20 AM
Bill Sawyer - I just loaded Adni's entire collection from home on a so-so cable connection in 42 seconds....
feline wants Bills connection!!!
feline wants Bills connection!!!
paxx
Reply #9 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 10:55 AM
Reply #9 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 10:55 AM
Yep, me too, the whole list of Adni's skin oaded in 30 seconds here.
But I agree, most people are still on a slow modem. :/
But I agree, most people are still on a slow modem. :/
treetog
Reply #10 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 12:17 PM
Reply #10 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 12:17 PM
Well I made a quick test.
Adni's page took me 1:10 minutes to load when I had 630 persons connected to the site.
My page took 2:25 minutes to load when I had 690 people connected.
Well, I am on a ADSL 256kbps connection and I think it is to long for a wait, so I agree with Adni, maybe author pages should be break down to a maximum of 50 skins per page.
Adni's page took me 1:10 minutes to load when I had 630 persons connected to the site.
My page took 2:25 minutes to load when I had 690 people connected.
Well, I am on a ADSL 256kbps connection and I think it is to long for a wait, so I agree with Adni, maybe author pages should be break down to a maximum of 50 skins per page.
Aqua.
Reply #11 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 12:25 PM
Reply #11 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 12:25 PM
treetog,
I'm a modem user and pages bog down when they have more than 10 skins per page.
My suggestion:
In "Edit Account Preferences" > "Web Viewing Preferences" there is a max # of skins per page option. You might want to make this apply to lists of author's skins as well as the regular galleries.
My $0.02
I'm a modem user and pages bog down when they have more than 10 skins per page.
My suggestion:
In "Edit Account Preferences" > "Web Viewing Preferences" there is a max # of skins per page option. You might want to make this apply to lists of author's skins as well as the regular galleries.
My $0.02
T-Man
Reply #12 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 12:49 PM
Reply #12 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 12:49 PM
Yes, this has been a long standing issue and has been on my list of things to do. Unfortunately time is a key issue. Or more specifically my time. I am working on multiple projects so trying to do updates to WinCustomize is sporadic. Making these changes is not a 15 minute fix because of the way things were implemented in the beginning.
There are many issues involving the speed of the site and we will address them as soon as possible. Unfortunately changing the author pages is not high on my list at the moment. Please have some patience while we will generally be addressing one issue at a time.
There are many issues involving the speed of the site and we will address them as soon as possible. Unfortunately changing the author pages is not high on my list at the moment. Please have some patience while we will generally be addressing one issue at a time.
adni18
Reply #13 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 1:16 PM
Reply #13 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 1:16 PM
Thank you T-Man in advance, from me and all the other poor users, with 56k modems
Just for the history, I want to mention, that it is not only the 1 or 2 or 4 minutes that are bothering the users, but the fact, that after this period of time, if the page doesn't make it to load, it doesn't load at all! The result in these cases, is just a blank page, "end of time" it says !!!
Just for the history, I want to mention, that it is not only the 1 or 2 or 4 minutes that are bothering the users, but the fact, that after this period of time, if the page doesn't make it to load, it doesn't load at all! The result in these cases, is just a blank page, "end of time" it says !!!
paxx
Reply #15 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 3:27 PM
Reply #15 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 3:27 PM
Treetog: your skins page to load for me: 17 seconds. Get cable already!
It takes longer for the server to reply and show me the page (30 seconds) than for the images to load.
Get cable already! It takes longer for the server to reply and show me the page (30 seconds) than for the images to load.
ToeJo
Reply #16 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 4:07 PM
Reply #16 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 4:07 PM
Only took about 8 seconds on the T3. How do you guys do it with dailup??? 
I think I'd have to hang myself if I had to wait on 56k. 
No wonder you guys are ticked!
How do you guys do it with dailup??? 
I think I'd have to hang myself if I had to wait on 56k. 
No wonder you guys are ticked!
Koasati
Reply #17 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 4:29 PM
Reply #17 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 4:29 PM
Koasati wishes cable came near his house.............
The price of country living........ 28.8........when I'm lucky, normally 26.4
The price of country living........ 28.8........when I'm lucky, normally 26.4
adni18
Reply #18 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 4:53 PM
Reply #18 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 4:53 PM
I envy you paxx and I almost hate you ToeJo 
My sympathy Koasati and congrats for living in the country
and I almost hate you ToeJo 
My sympathy Koasati and congrats for living in the country
treetog
Reply #19 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 6:57 PM
Reply #19 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 6:57 PM
well, I think it must depend on how many people are logged on the site when you try, I just made another attempt and my page loaded in 31 secs with 434 persons logged in the same time
BoXXi
Reply #20 Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:55 AM
Reply #20 Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:55 AM
Try loading MY page! https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?AuthorID=194 I have never got it to load yet on this crappy modem. BUT tomorrow I am getting a 1mb Broadband connection!!!! WooHoo, can't wait.
I hope T-Man gets around to this problem soon, but I know he is a busy man, and he WILL deal with it eventually.
I hope T-Man gets around to this problem soon, but I know he is a busy man, and he WILL deal with it eventually.
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Reply #1 Wednesday, October 9, 2002 8:20 AM
If that is not possible here are some alternate links...
http://adni18.deviantart.com/deviations
http://www.skinbase.org/gallery.php?uname=adni18