being payed for a design
Tuesday, October 8, 2002 by Styl-X Design | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
would you pay 2 euro/dollar cent (0.02 dollar) for downloading one of these artworks, (that 1 cent goes to the designer, the other 1 cent goes to the owner of www.wincustomize.com)
is there a future in this id? let me know
is there a future in this id? let me know
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Styl-X Design
Reply #22 Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:12 AM
Reply #22 Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:12 AM
Just 1 question, how do you get the work, i mean.... how do you find it? or do they find you? 
Aqua.
Reply #23 Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:29 AM
Reply #23 Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:29 AM
Basically I get business via word of mouth.
For a few years I have been making websites for various local companies. One of my clients recently saw a design on my laptop (the RedRew-Cru WB: https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=18&SkinID=311 Logon: https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=26&SkinID=589 that I'm working on as we speak) and asked me to do one for him in his company colors.
As for the government side, I live just outside Ft. Bragg which means I interact with lots of military folks. Also, I sent a screenshot of a navy theme I'm working on to my dad and he sent it to the commondant of the annapolis naval academy and a couple other admirals and they're interested in buying the final version. What I currently have is loosely based on FRESH: https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?searchtext=fresh&sort=updatedate&order=Descending&library=1 which means I have to do a lot more work and heavy mods before I can sell it.
Pretty fast work for only getting into skinning a couple weeks ago,
For a few years I have been making websites for various local companies. One of my clients recently saw a design on my laptop (the RedRew-Cru WB: https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=18&SkinID=311 Logon: https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=26&SkinID=589 that I'm working on as we speak) and asked me to do one for him in his company colors.
As for the government side, I live just outside Ft. Bragg which means I interact with lots of military folks. Also, I sent a screenshot of a navy theme I'm working on to my dad and he sent it to the commondant of the annapolis naval academy and a couple other admirals and they're interested in buying the final version. What I currently have is loosely based on FRESH: https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?searchtext=fresh&sort=updatedate&order=Descending&library=1 which means I have to do a lot more work and heavy mods before I can sell it.
Pretty fast work for only getting into skinning a couple weeks ago,
Styl-X Design
Reply #24 Thursday, October 10, 2002 2:02 AM
Reply #24 Thursday, October 10, 2002 2:02 AM
this is really nice, keep on going like this, 
these are your first design "jobs"?
these are your first design "jobs"?
Aqua.
Reply #25 Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:35 AM
Reply #25 Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:35 AM
Yes. I actually started doing skinning a few weeks back since it is completely different from the minimalist style I use to do web sites. I'm used to working with four colors max, almost always shades of blue, and no graphics, just areas of flat color arranged pleasingly.
I took on the RewRew-Cru project as a challenge because I have never worked with an orange based scheme before and I've also never had to do 3-D effects before. I'm totally enjoying being out of my comfort zone
The main thing that's holding me back is that I'm still learning how everything goes together as I build the skins.
I took on the RewRew-Cru project as a challenge because I have never worked with an orange based scheme before and I've also never had to do 3-D effects before. I'm totally enjoying being out of my comfort zone
The main thing that's holding me back is that I'm still learning how everything goes together as I build the skins.
Aqua.
Reply #26 Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:06 AM
Reply #26 Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:06 AM
Styl skinner
You earlier remarked, "cool, hoping for such a asignment, but never comes to me," it's rather easy actually. Well, it's rather easy if you have contact with people in the management levels of other companies. Basically, just evangalize WindowBlinds and when they get curious show them a screenshot or something of your computer running a skin you've created. Also, it helps if they regularly contract you to do graphics stuff for them.
You earlier remarked, "cool, hoping for such a asignment, but never comes to me," it's rather easy actually. Well, it's rather easy if you have contact with people in the management levels of other companies. Basically, just evangalize WindowBlinds and when they get curious show them a screenshot or something of your computer running a skin you've created. Also, it helps if they regularly contract you to do graphics stuff for them.
Styl-X Design
Reply #27 Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:47 AM
Reply #27 Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:47 AM
Yeah geus that is treu jobeleca, but designing started as a hobby for me, sometimes i make things for friends, but same story counts for me, i am just in designing for about 3 months, i made this site as a beginning, just as a challange: http://www.shadownes.tk when i was done with it i got intrested in designing.
I´m not having contacts or something in the design world, but i think that my time is comming soon
, but again, your work looks realy nice, my compliments.
What do you think of the first idea of this topic? let people pay 2 cent for a wall?
Let me know ok?
I´m not having contacts or something in the design world, but i think that my time is comming soon
, but again, your work looks realy nice, my compliments.What do you think of the first idea of this topic? let people pay 2 cent for a wall?
Let me know ok?
Aqua.
Reply #28 Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:17 AM
Reply #28 Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:17 AM
Styl,
Doing web pages started out as a hobby when I was in 9th grade, I didn't go commercial until my first year of college. I got started by talking to various people in my church that I knew owned small businesses. A couple people were interested and asked to see some of the sites I had done for myself and then asked me to do some sites for them.
I had intended for skinning to be just a hobby until one of my clients saw what I was doing and asked for a skin for his business etc. I hadn't intended to go commercial with this, but I'm not going to turn away $$$
I visited your site. Unfortunately, the presentation kept freezing in the section that presented the options "intro" and "skip intro". It might just be my browser, but you might want to check it out. Here's a site I'm currently working on http://www.sktsd.com
As for the $0.02 idea, I think that while it needs to be refined, it is basically a good idea. The cost is low enough to not be a burden, I'd definitely be willing to pay $1 for 50 skins. Because it would be pay, it would lighten the server load by driving away some of the habitual freeloaders, thus speeding up the site for everyone else. Also, because there would be a monetary incentive for excellent work the average quality of work would likely go up. For the top people it might even be enough to make a living off of skinning, just imagine that your full time job is doing this. Of course, the downside is that there would likely be more copycat skins, though the moderation system would minimize this problem.
Some refinements to the idea: One possible refinement is allowing 10 free downloads before requiring payment to get people hooked on the site. A second refinement is to allow the designer to choose whether their work should be freely available or whether it should be pay content (make this option per skin instead of accountwide). A third refinement is to allow people to put any amount of money into their account instead of requiring $10 up front. A fourth refinement is keying the amount paid to the user level and making all content free to skinners.
Doing web pages started out as a hobby when I was in 9th grade, I didn't go commercial until my first year of college. I got started by talking to various people in my church that I knew owned small businesses. A couple people were interested and asked to see some of the sites I had done for myself and then asked me to do some sites for them.
I had intended for skinning to be just a hobby until one of my clients saw what I was doing and asked for a skin for his business etc. I hadn't intended to go commercial with this, but I'm not going to turn away $$$
I visited your site. Unfortunately, the presentation kept freezing in the section that presented the options "intro" and "skip intro". It might just be my browser, but you might want to check it out. Here's a site I'm currently working on http://www.sktsd.com
As for the $0.02 idea, I think that while it needs to be refined, it is basically a good idea. The cost is low enough to not be a burden, I'd definitely be willing to pay $1 for 50 skins. Because it would be pay, it would lighten the server load by driving away some of the habitual freeloaders, thus speeding up the site for everyone else. Also, because there would be a monetary incentive for excellent work the average quality of work would likely go up. For the top people it might even be enough to make a living off of skinning, just imagine that your full time job is doing this.
Of course, the downside is that there would likely be more copycat skins, though the moderation system would minimize this problem.Some refinements to the idea: One possible refinement is allowing 10 free downloads before requiring payment to get people hooked on the site. A second refinement is to allow the designer to choose whether their work should be freely available or whether it should be pay content (make this option per skin instead of accountwide). A third refinement is to allow people to put any amount of money into their account instead of requiring $10 up front. A fourth refinement is keying the amount paid to the user level and making all content free to skinners.
Aqua.
Reply #29 Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:21 AM
Reply #29 Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:21 AM
Styl, I've uploaded a screenshot of the beta version of RedRew-Cru https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=1019 It's much better than the alpha version that I linked to earlier. Let me know what you think
Styl-X Design
Reply #30 Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:50 AM
Reply #30 Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:50 AM
Jobeleca
The site you are working on looks nice, maybe a bit basic, however it isn´t a site about design, good work!
0.02 cent idea, yeah, i do not think people could make their living of it, however adni18 is on the good way .
But it should be a nice amount of cash to spend, imagine, with 7 peaces of work i should own 140 dollars.
The screenshot also looks nice, made in skin studio right?
And my site, it works fine by me, just skip the intro if it don´t works, exactely, do you have a site of your own, where you show your work to customers?
The site you are working on looks nice
, maybe a bit basic, however it isn´t a site about design, good work!0.02 cent idea, yeah, i do not think people could make their living of it, however adni18 is on the good way
.But it should be a nice amount of cash to spend, imagine, with 7 peaces of work i should own 140 dollars.
The screenshot also looks nice, made in skin studio right?
And my site, it works fine by me, just skip the intro if it don´t works, exactely, do you have a site of your own, where you show your work to customers?
Styl-X Design
Reply #31 Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:52 AM
Reply #31 Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:52 AM
Jobeleca
The site you are working on looks nice, maybe a bit basic, however it isn´t a site about design, good work!
0.02 cent idea, yeah, i do not think people could make their living of it, however adni18 is on the good way .
But it should be a nice amount of cash to spend, imagine, with 7 peaces of work i should own 140 dollars.
The screenshot also looks nice, made in skin studio right?
And my site, it works fine by me, just skip the intro if it don´t works, exactely, do you have a site of your own, where you show your work to customers?
And what kind of programs do u use to do your design work? (photoshop, bryce, 3d max etc etc)
The site you are working on looks nice
, maybe a bit basic, however it isn´t a site about design, good work!0.02 cent idea, yeah, i do not think people could make their living of it, however adni18 is on the good way
.But it should be a nice amount of cash to spend, imagine, with 7 peaces of work i should own 140 dollars.
The screenshot also looks nice, made in skin studio right?
And my site, it works fine by me, just skip the intro if it don´t works, exactely, do you have a site of your own, where you show your work to customers?
And what kind of programs do u use to do your design work? (photoshop, bryce, 3d max etc etc)
Aqua.
Reply #32 Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:46 PM
Reply #32 Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:46 PM
Styl
I do have a site of my own to show my work to customers, however I'm somewhat embarassed to show it. It's just one of those things where I put all my effort into other people's sites and neglect my own. Honestly, I just did it as a project for one of my classes, deemed it good enough, and haven't touched it much since. http://www.maverickproductions.net
My personal site is at http://jobeleca.bravepages.com and the story behind it is the same. It was a college project that I deemed good enough and slapped on the web.
As you can see from the above sites, I have a preference for clean design (though you might think of it as simplicity).
As for the .02 cent idea, the logon I posted recently could have paid for lunch next week. That's good enough for me. And yes, I made it in SkinStudio. I may prefer doing web stuff at the code level, but it's best to learn at the GUI level. As for your site, I couldn't skip the intro, it simply froze there and wouldn't let me any further. From what I could see, I think I would like your site.
I do have a site of my own to show my work to customers, however I'm somewhat embarassed to show it. It's just one of those things where I put all my effort into other people's sites and neglect my own. Honestly, I just did it as a project for one of my classes, deemed it good enough, and haven't touched it much since. http://www.maverickproductions.net
My personal site is at http://jobeleca.bravepages.com and the story behind it is the same. It was a college project that I deemed good enough and slapped on the web.
As you can see from the above sites, I have a preference for clean design (though you might think of it as simplicity).
As for the .02 cent idea, the logon I posted recently could have paid for lunch next week. That's good enough for me.
And yes, I made it in SkinStudio. I may prefer doing web stuff at the code level, but it's best to learn at the GUI level. As for your site, I couldn't skip the intro, it simply froze there and wouldn't let me any further. From what I could see, I think I would like your site.
Aqua.
Reply #33 Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:52 PM
Reply #33 Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:52 PM
Styl
I took a look at some of the stuff you have done, nice You seem to be more "design" oriented than I am. I basically went straight from amature to having clients that wanted either very cheap frontpage stuff or simple designs like you saw on SKTSD.com
I took a look at some of the stuff you have done, nice
You seem to be more "design" oriented than I am. I basically went straight from amature to having clients that wanted either very cheap frontpage stuff or simple designs like you saw on SKTSD.com
Styl-X Design
Reply #34 Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:01 PM
Reply #34 Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:01 PM
jobeleca
sorry voor that ´simplicity´ couldn´t find the worth for it, the site´s are indeed clean, easy to find what you wan´t well, got to go now, packing my stuff, cause i am going a weak to france, back on monday next week,
sorry voor that ´simplicity´ couldn´t find the worth for it, the site´s are indeed clean, easy to find what you wan´t well, got to go now, packing my stuff, cause i am going a weak to france, back on monday next week,
Styl-X Design
Reply #36 Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:21 PM
Reply #36 Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:21 PM
thnx, leaving tomorow morning, hoping to upload a wall, is now rendering while i am typing, think i will leave my computer on this night
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Reply #21 Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:11 AM
i gues 100 is a fair price, and ten more for a computer it works on, could you mail me a screenshot, i am beginning to be intressted (mail: [email protected]) and for the goverment, dont know about how many computers you are talking then, but the way by the hour, like thegreenreaper says is also a way, good luck, and i hope you send me the screenshot