The Norton thing- to clear up my thoughts i couldnt on the support thread
Monday, June 17, 2013 by benmanns | Discussion: Personal Computing
OK so after Neil wrote : This is not pointed at you Neil just pick the quote as entry point.
Quoting Neil Banfield,
If the file is signed then the right approach would be to simply inform the user that they do not know much about this software, but it is signed by XXXXX and perhaps link this back to the server info which would know that many apps signed by XXXX have been found to be perfectly valid and so chances are this one is also fine. Factor in the download location and you have a solution that rightly triggers on unknown threats while at the same time acting in a responsible manner and providing accurate information.
I was trying to explain that this is partly the case they tell you that they have no clue of the file therefore they isolate it...
I don’t know if this is the case in older versions of Norton Antivirus but on the current gen it is when I download a file and it is not known I get a little popup on my taskbar in red that tells me that the file is not safe and gives me the option to click on it to view what is going on.'
The reputation of a file can be checked with the included "insight" and if you do so it tells you that it doesn’t know the file and that the file does not get used by many... since this didn’t happen to me as i update my stuff ... i can only show you a screenshot i send to the ticket support recently.
I added some text...I know this is not about WB but i did not had the problem as the gentleman of the support thread.
I also did not say that 2003-2012 was any good for Symantec i used it till 2006 and then dropped it for an alternative but the recent version of the Antivirus isn’t like that it is what i used to know of a top AV.
If 2012 or below does not provide the info shown in the screesnhot then i can understand what was written before but since the OP was using windows8 I thought he would be using win8 compatible AV and that would be 2013 AV and that has it all included.
I include the screenshot to show you what i mean maybe I wasn’t clear enough in my pre post but it does give you all the info you need and it openly tells you that it has no clue and the reputation alert/isol. should be able to get passed if you turn insight protection off. ( didn’t try it but it should work )
And a question why not provide the top AV market- with a beta or point release so they can test it before the download of the file opens this way they would be able to mark the file as good in advance to avoid complications or would that be to much work?
Reply #22 Thursday, July 4, 2013 9:44 AM
hey there just came back from my holiday trip and i brought some goodys aswell
will take a little to get them to my pc since i havent unpacked yet i just hope that they got good.
Anyway i will respond a bit later i just couldnt find the time.
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Reply #21 Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:51 PM
nice did you read the whole article ?
may I ?: Symantec’s track record in the Times appears worse still. But it’s worth noting that its peers would likely have been equally useless: The security firm actually outperformed most of its competitors in the most recent tests by German antivirus testing firm AV-Test, which gave Symantec a rating of 5.5 out of 6 for protection of Windows 7 in its latest enterprise antivirus analysis, a better score than McAfee, Kaspersky, or Microsoft. T
I use 2013 myself and i would not go and say i install total crap on my machine...im not having unprotected onenightstands in the www so to say... but im aware that even with AV installed im not safe if shit hits the fan
*little umbrella
I get it Norton failed to protect them but these attacks were not casual nature these attacks were aimed and it’s likely that a exposed backdoor was used
I only provided one example of Norton sucking. I could easily cite 50 sources of where it failed for each positive review. I work in IT and deal a lot with virus issues and also do my own annual evaluation of the products available. It sounds to me like you're just trying to justify the money you spent for a PoS Anti-Virus application. Now if you're using the Enterprise version of Norton (that AV-Test used), that's a completely different product than what the home user buys off of the shelves and IS a decent A/V. Again, completely different technology than the boxed/free crap Symantec sells.
Another reason I steer clear of Norton is that not that long ago they were heavily invested in by the Chinese Gov't. I don't feel like funding Communist countries, so they don't get my money.
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AV-Test is interesting and moderately reliable IMHO. None of the major magazines (PC World comes to mind) have any credibility for reviews as they're in the pocket of their advertisers.
Strange..........some very experienced IT Managers that I know feel that Norton has come along way over the past few years with their products and the version that we use at home - as opposed to the Enterprise Symantec Product that they deploy on their networks - is pretty damn good and up there with anything else you can buy.