I am mad and sad…
Saturday, August 31, 2002 by adni18 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I am mad and sad…
I was working last night with a skin and suddenly I heard some noises from my portable computer, then a blue screen and after the disaster!!! My only one hard disk has been ruined without any warning! It was one year old only!
That’s why I am mad!
But, I am very sad about it too, because I have lost for ever, 6GB of my new works, (the disk was 20GB), with 4 new WindowBlinds skins (maybe my best work), 5 new Icon Packages (I have been made them for months now and I was proud about them), more than 40 new finished wallpapers (not to mention other at least 100 that wasn’t ready) and many other important works…
Can you imagine how many hours of work have been wasted? I still can believe it!
If only have a back-up of my works… which I don’t, I wouldn’t care at all about this damned disk!
You may think “why he is writing this thread? “ For one reason only, to remind all of you, my dear community friends, to make a BACK-UP!!! Everybody knows that, but only few make it.
After so many years, that I am playing with the computers, this was my first time, that I lost something that it was important to me and this really hurt me!
So, go on make a back-up, you never know when the disaster strikes!
I was working last night with a skin and suddenly I heard some noises from my portable computer, then a blue screen and after the disaster!!! My only one hard disk has been ruined without any warning! It was one year old only!
That’s why I am mad!
But, I am very sad about it too, because I have lost for ever, 6GB of my new works, (the disk was 20GB), with 4 new WindowBlinds skins (maybe my best work), 5 new Icon Packages (I have been made them for months now and I was proud about them), more than 40 new finished wallpapers (not to mention other at least 100 that wasn’t ready) and many other important works…
Can you imagine how many hours of work have been wasted? I still can believe it!
If only have a back-up of my works… which I don’t, I wouldn’t care at all about this damned disk!
You may think “why he is writing this thread? “ For one reason only, to remind all of you, my dear community friends, to make a BACK-UP!!! Everybody knows that, but only few make it.
After so many years, that I am playing with the computers, this was my first time, that I lost something that it was important to me and this really hurt me!
So, go on make a back-up, you never know when the disaster strikes!
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UBoB
Reply #2 Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:51 PM
Reply #2 Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:51 PM
Oh adni, this is terrible. All that work, all those hours. Just terrible.
Is it completely gone?
Have you tried contacting Data Recovery specialists. There are a few that say they can recover up to 90% of a disk that looks impossible.
You may want to try to find something online. Try a google search for "Data Recovery" and see what comes up. Here is one such place. http://www.drivesavers.com/ There are many more.
I am so sorry for your loss of all that work. I know it must have been spectacular, as all your work is.
I really hope that some of it can be recovered.
My deepest sympathies for this. I know it represents many hours of your hard work.
Is it completely gone?
Have you tried contacting Data Recovery specialists. There are a few that say they can recover up to 90% of a disk that looks impossible.
You may want to try to find something online. Try a google search for "Data Recovery" and see what comes up. Here is one such place. http://www.drivesavers.com/ There are many more.
I am so sorry for your loss of all that work. I know it must have been spectacular, as all your work is.
I really hope that some of it can be recovered.
My deepest sympathies for this. I know it represents many hours of your hard work.
elvee
Reply #3 Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:00 PM
Reply #3 Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:00 PM
I am Very truly sorry that your hard drive crashed Nikos 
My computer has crashed on me a couple of times and i lost everything because i didn't make backups. Still i could get my files back by re-installing and downloading. But i can't imagine what it feels like to lose months of hard work that you can't get back. Nikos I'm sorry, but i am sure that I and many others here can help you get your existing works back.
My computer has crashed on me a couple of times and i lost everything because i didn't make backups. Still i could get my files back by re-installing and downloading. But i can't imagine what it feels like to lose months of hard work that you can't get back. Nikos I'm sorry, but i am sure that I and many others here can help you get your existing works back.
adni18
Reply #4 Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:03 PM
Reply #4 Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:03 PM
Thank you for your sympathy motion : and for your info, (I thank you too starone 
)
You are giving me hope which they told me doesn't exists, because my hard disk is mini, for portable computer.
They told me, that only the normal air with the normal dust, if it going to land in the surface of the disk, where the data are, then they will not be able to recover anything! With a few words they told me it is impossible!
)You are giving me hope which they told me doesn't exists, because my hard disk is mini, for portable computer.
They told me, that only the normal air with the normal dust, if it going to land in the surface of the disk, where the data are, then they will not be able to recover anything! With a few words they told me it is impossible!
goodmorphing
Reply #5 Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:04 PM
Reply #5 Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:04 PM
I am so sorry, Nikos! 
And you, look at you, your response is to come here to warn people and keep them from the same fate! As always, I am amazed and humbled! I do hope you can get some of that back.
And you, look at you, your response is to come here to warn people and keep them from the same fate! As always, I am amazed and humbled! I do hope you can get some of that back.
adni18
Reply #6 Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:07 PM
Reply #6 Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:07 PM
I forgot to mention that it was a head crash of the hard disk.
starone
Reply #7 Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:11 PM
Reply #7 Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:11 PM
Keep trying Adni, don't give up. We have got to get that data back.
UBoB
Reply #9 Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:57 PM
Reply #9 Saturday, August 31, 2002 7:57 PM
adni, the link I gave for 'DriveSavers' says that they can recover disks from a 'head crash'. I may be worth making a phone call to them just to see if they can help, and to get a price quote. It's worth a try. 
DavidK
Reply #10 Saturday, August 31, 2002 8:23 PM
Reply #10 Saturday, August 31, 2002 8:23 PM
How tragic... I had a drive go down about a year ago and lost three years worth of artwork - mostly ads, package designs, logos and product illustrations. A lot of it was stuff I would need to re-use in new jobs and had to be recreated. I still have the drive sitting on my desk. I looked into having the data restored but it was too expensive for me.
You have my sympathy and I hope you can recover the data somehow. Loosing those skins icons and wallpapers is a tragic loss for us all. Good luck my friend...
You have my sympathy and I hope you can recover the data somehow. Loosing those skins icons and wallpapers is a tragic loss for us all. Good luck my friend...
Jafo
Reply #11 Saturday, August 31, 2002 8:47 PM
Reply #11 Saturday, August 31, 2002 8:47 PM
Bad news, Nikos....but as some have said, it IS pssible to recover the data, but it is not cheap, requiring many hours of technician work. You won't get it all, but you 'should' get quite a lot...whether from mechanical drive failure, head crash or disappearing boot-sector.
Give it a go if it is affordable...
Disasters such as these are a good reminder to one and all to 'protect' their work with regular 'independent' back-ups....
Give it a go if it is affordable...
Disasters such as these are a good reminder to one and all to 'protect' their work with regular 'independent' back-ups....
goodmorphing
Reply #12 Saturday, August 31, 2002 10:01 PM
Reply #12 Saturday, August 31, 2002 10:01 PM
I tried to save my stuff online (I thought anything was safer than me and all my mishaps) but their servers crashed (that is what they said). I lost everything too, since I was depending on them.
I learned, protect everything and protect it two or three different ways!
I learned, protect everything and protect it two or three different ways!
Alexandrie
Reply #13 Saturday, August 31, 2002 10:08 PM
Reply #13 Saturday, August 31, 2002 10:08 PM
How can you find the time to make so many skins and walls?
Try to make some CD of your work next time. If this would happend to me I would be in same position, loosing all my work
Try to make some CD of your work next time. If this would happend to me I would be in same position, loosing all my work
paxx
Reply #14 Saturday, August 31, 2002 11:48 PM
Reply #14 Saturday, August 31, 2002 11:48 PM
Oh man!! That is totally depressing!
I can't imagine the thousands of hours you must have spent on all that work.
Holy Crap, this sucks big time.
How about your real work? Did you loose any essential data for your real work and livelyhood?
I can't imagine the thousands of hours you must have spent on all that work.
Holy Crap, this sucks big time.
How about your real work? Did you loose any essential data for your real work and livelyhood?
treetog
Reply #15 Sunday, September 1, 2002 2:30 AM
Reply #15 Sunday, September 1, 2002 2:30 AM
Adni, I am really sorry to know that.
I know how painfull this can be, some years ago , the same hapenned to me and I lost allmost 200 logos I made.
Today I don't play with this kind of thing anymore, I make backups on CD at least 2 times a week.
We work hard on the computer, we can't afford to loose so many hours.
Once again, I am really sorry for that.
I know how painfull this can be, some years ago , the same hapenned to me and I lost allmost 200 logos I made.
Today I don't play with this kind of thing anymore, I make backups on CD at least 2 times a week.
We work hard on the computer, we can't afford to loose so many hours.
Once again, I am really sorry for that.
bakerstreet
Reply #16 Sunday, September 1, 2002 3:14 AM
Reply #16 Sunday, September 1, 2002 3:14 AM
That sucks, soooo bad. I feel yer pain. I once backed up my hard drive, double checked the CD, repartitioned and formatted, and never got the CD to read again... not in my computer, not in anyone else's. It happened to be the worst run of CD-writers HP ever made and, due to a class-action, they actually gave out refunds to all the people who bought them (as I found out, a month after the deadline...)
Thoughts:
- Partitioning is overrated. If you do it so that you don't have to restore a lot of static, archived material every time you reinstall your OS, it's cool. If, though, you are doing it for data integrity, you are playing with fire. A hard drive doesn't grow redundant internal hardware when you partition it, so if the problem is mechanical, you're still screwed with a single partitioned drive.
If you use a separate hard drive in the same box, and someone steals said box, or kicks it over, it falls out of the car seat, or whatever, you could find yourself in the same boat. which leads me to:
File server. I got a big, ugly design box under my desk, and a slim older pizzabox serving me all my media both locally and remotely, and sporting a big 'ole backup drive. You can get newer/old machines for 25-75 bucks new/used and they are steadfast companions. Buy a decent KVM swith, a little router, and they just keep chugging along... It is *excellent* for people who work off a laptop, since you can set up a private ftp or web-based archive and access your material from anywhere, and when you leave it on the bus you are covered (your work is, anyway...)
A backup *machine* is integral for anyone that uses a computer for their livelyhood, IMHO. Cheap and reliable. Mine is fit for nothing but surfing, shuffling files around my house and serving privatly (p200, 2 meg video card, no sound at all), and it has saved my butt countless times.
Thoughts:
- Partitioning is overrated. If you do it so that you don't have to restore a lot of static, archived material every time you reinstall your OS, it's cool. If, though, you are doing it for data integrity, you are playing with fire. A hard drive doesn't grow redundant internal hardware when you partition it, so if the problem is mechanical, you're still screwed with a single partitioned drive.
If you use a separate hard drive in the same box, and someone steals said box, or kicks it over, it falls out of the car seat, or whatever, you could find yourself in the same boat. which leads me to:
File server. I got a big, ugly design box under my desk, and a slim older pizzabox serving me all my media both locally and remotely, and sporting a big 'ole backup drive. You can get newer/old machines for 25-75 bucks new/used and they are steadfast companions. Buy a decent KVM swith, a little router, and they just keep chugging along... It is *excellent* for people who work off a laptop, since you can set up a private ftp or web-based archive and access your material from anywhere, and when you leave it on the bus you are covered (your work is, anyway...)A backup *machine* is integral for anyone that uses a computer for their livelyhood, IMHO. Cheap and reliable. Mine is fit for nothing but surfing, shuffling files around my house and serving privatly (p200, 2 meg video card, no sound at all), and it has saved my butt countless times.
adni18
Reply #17 Sunday, September 1, 2002 4:27 AM
Reply #17 Sunday, September 1, 2002 4:27 AM
Your comments are the best healing for my sadness of losing so much work. Thank you very much all of you, I appreciate it a lot.
There is a bright side in this case! (I always try to find the bright side in any case…).
First of all, I feel the sense of community that you send to me with your comments.
Second, I decide to buy a new computer, not portable this time, but a desktop one, with 2 big hard disks, DVD writer, fast with a lot of memory etc
I hope that it will help me to not loose another time my work and also to give you greater resolutions with my wallpapers, etc
My hopes to recover some data is only 5-10% of the amount of disk, which is only 2-3 % of my data, too little, that’s what they told me when I contact some of those specialist of data recovery. (Thank you Tim for the “DriveSavers” link ). You know why I have so low percentage? Because I have restart more than 30 times, with a head crash, hearing all those noises, that they ware scratching my hard disk, that was condemnatory for the recovery of data.
Thanks God that I have another computer in my office, a powerful Mac, where I have my database of my clients. (I was lucky paxx ). I am using in my house the portable for the internet and for my hobby, for making company to my wife and not to leave her alone, at the evenings, when I am doing our common hobby, (3-4 hours every night, which seams to me 1 hour, is the time that I find to do all my works Alexandrie .
There is a bright side in this case! (I always try to find the bright side in any case…).
First of all, I feel the sense of community that you send to me with your comments.
Second, I decide to buy a new computer, not portable this time, but a desktop one, with 2 big hard disks, DVD writer, fast with a lot of memory etc
I hope that it will help me to not loose another time my work and also to give you greater resolutions with my wallpapers, etc
My hopes to recover some data is only 5-10% of the amount of disk, which is only 2-3 % of my data, too little, that’s what they told me when I contact some of those specialist of data recovery. (Thank you Tim for the “DriveSavers” link
). You know why I have so low percentage? Because I have restart more than 30 times, with a head crash, hearing all those noises, that they ware scratching my hard disk, that was condemnatory for the recovery of data. Thanks God that I have another computer in my office, a powerful Mac, where I have my database of my clients. (I was lucky paxx
). I am using in my house the portable for the internet and for my hobby, for making company to my wife and not to leave her alone, at the evenings, when I am doing our common hobby, (3-4 hours every night, which seams to me 1 hour, is the time that I find to do all my works Alexandrie .
goodmorphing
Reply #18 Sunday, September 1, 2002 4:56 AM
Reply #18 Sunday, September 1, 2002 4:56 AM
I am glad that your client data is safe.... So your new computer is for your house? Your wife will be so glad!
Here is something.... you were doing all those beautiful works on a portable computer? What is the screen size on one of those? (I feel guilty now for using my little bitty screen as a reason not to do better!) I have got to go look at those, they must be really improved since I saw them. I am getting more and more interested in Macs, too. Shoot, my friend would have given me his old one, but I thought Macs were not good!
I am happy to see that you are finding the bright side. That is very good!
Here is something.... you were doing all those beautiful works on a portable computer? What is the screen size on one of those? (I feel guilty now for using my little bitty screen as a reason not to do better!) I have got to go look at those, they must be really improved since I saw them. I am getting more and more interested in Macs, too. Shoot, my friend would have given me his old one, but I thought Macs were not good!
I am happy to see that you are finding the bright side. That is very good!
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #19 Sunday, September 1, 2002 5:22 AM
Reply #19 Sunday, September 1, 2002 5:22 AM
All that work gone...this is a major disaster. It's also a major disaster for us as we will now not get to see your work (something I always look forward to).
I know the feeling though. A while back I lost loads of stuff - 2Gb of movies, months worth of downloads etc. Since then I keep three backups: one on a partition in case the problem is Windows which requires a restore from backup (I have a complete disk backup too), another on a second hard drive in case of a head crash, and another on a third hard drive which is stored safely away from the pc.
I'm sure someone as creative as you will be back into things straight away. Your best work is just around the corner and I can't wait to see it. While I'm here I'll take this opportunity to thank you for all the marvellous work you have done so far. The skinning community would be a lot thinner if it wasn't for you. The title 'Master' is perfect.
I know the feeling though. A while back I lost loads of stuff - 2Gb of movies, months worth of downloads etc. Since then I keep three backups: one on a partition in case the problem is Windows which requires a restore from backup (I have a complete disk backup too), another on a second hard drive in case of a head crash, and another on a third hard drive which is stored safely away from the pc.
I'm sure someone as creative as you will be back into things straight away. Your best work is just around the corner and I can't wait to see it. While I'm here I'll take this opportunity to thank you for all the marvellous work you have done so far. The skinning community would be a lot thinner if it wasn't for you. The title 'Master' is perfect.
c242
Reply #20 Sunday, September 1, 2002 6:50 AM
Reply #20 Sunday, September 1, 2002 6:50 AM
That is bad... This is the main reason I keep my data seperated on another HD and let itn automatically backup every night. There are some good not so expensive backup-progs out there.
This is the main reason I keep my data seperated on another HD and let itn automatically backup every night. There are some good not so expensive backup-progs out there. Please login to comment and/or vote for this skin.
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Reply #1 Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:48 PM