Windowblinds wishing list

Friday, August 30, 2002 by treetog | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

I thought about openning this thread to be used as a direct line with windowblinds developers, for us to place here wour wishes, bug reports, etc...

So, let me make my number one wish.

When we use transparency on scroll bars, it allways have problems on IE and Outlook Express, showing a blank image on it's borders.

Is this just a bug or it will be allways like that? This is really anoying, because users thinks that it is a skin bug, when it is not.

Could you guys over Stardock fix that?
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Frogboy
Reply #1 Friday, August 30, 2002 12:02 PM
The reason for that is because the only way to get IE windows to have their scrollbars skinned is to use uxtheme.dll. And that means providing the scrollbar in a format they understand. Unfortunately uxtheme.dll is very limited. We're going to see what we can do in WB 4.

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treetog
Reply #2 Friday, August 30, 2002 12:45 PM
Huraaay!
adni18
Reply #3 Friday, August 30, 2002 12:59 PM
Good idea treetog!

Well, here are some of my wishes for the WindowBlinds Developers who are doing a great work!

I wish that I could change:

The text of the windows toolbars, font and color.
The icons of the toolbars.
Also to have an option in the taskbar buttons not to have icons on them.
goodmorphing
Reply #4 Friday, August 30, 2002 1:44 PM
Sometimes I have wanted to have a skin cycler... so that every time I booted up I had a different skin (because there are so many awesome skins and I have a hard time choosing). Then I think, no, maybe not. But having the option maybe..... so many great skins, so little time to wear them all!
werewolf
Reply #5 Friday, August 30, 2002 1:49 PM
goodmorphing: there use to be some little helper app called randomblinds I think. Somewhere on www.stardock.net? I can't find it, but there really was something like that somewhere.

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treetog
Reply #6 Friday, August 30, 2002 3:24 PM
well, since we are talking about a wishing list, I would make 2 more requests, but please don't be mad on me, they are just request , ok?

1) animated titlebar buttons
2) pleeeeeeease, make a different vertical off set for the user pick and text (name) on the top panel of the XP start menu.

this second request is REALLY needed in most of the skins.
jebland
Reply #7 Friday, August 30, 2002 3:30 PM
How about a font and font color choice for the XP Menu?
messybuu
Reply #8 Friday, August 30, 2002 4:08 PM
I have a request as well. Could you separate the glyph from the background on components such as the spinners? I think it would look much better. Because it seems with many skins the spinners don't look right.

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starone
Reply #9 Friday, August 30, 2002 4:58 PM
Good thread idea Treetog.

My requests: On the start menu instead of the XP Highlighted option (which gives a color only when going over the items), having something that is skinnable as to give a mouseover effect (like in object bar). Also mouseovers for the icons too (like in object bar).



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jebland
Reply #10 Friday, August 30, 2002 5:31 PM
The new version of SkinStudio finally has that. Also button option for Logging buttons.
WOM
Reply #11 Friday, August 30, 2002 5:38 PM
I think starone means mouse over icons on the start menu.

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jebland
Reply #12 Friday, August 30, 2002 5:42 PM
Oh, sorry, I thought she meant the buttons.
DavidK
Reply #13 Friday, August 30, 2002 5:48 PM
two things that have been mystifying me are:

the roll-up size is off by one pixel when switching between winXP and win2k. It's one pixel too big in 2k when at the correct setting for XP. Is this just me or is it happening to others too?

the text color on explorer toolbar mouse-overs (in XP only) seems to be controlled by some system setting and not the uis file, can this be fixed?

and other than that everything I wanted is already on the lists above (especially animated titlebar buttons and seperate vertical settings for user pic and name on the start panel)
Mercury
Reply #14 Friday, August 30, 2002 7:02 PM
Hmmm.... Let me see...

Vertical titlebars with true vertical text for one.

Layered titlebar buttons. i.e. you mouse over an area of the titlebar and it reveals the buttons below.

Separate images for the start menu border and icon areas. That way the menu could be skinned much like a window and would allow greater flexibility for tiling the background of the icon area (a limitation I ran into with Marauder).

Animation for the start panel items.

That's all I can think of for now, did I mention vertical titlebars? *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*
jcg
Reply #15 Friday, August 30, 2002 8:13 PM
To make really exceptional skins one requires talent, can that be fixed in WB4? I want to make exceptional skins also.

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Jafo
Reply #16 Friday, August 30, 2002 11:27 PM
The ability to have the titlebar text without a background at all....you know me....transparent to a fault...
Frogboy
Reply #17 Friday, August 30, 2002 11:35 PM
What would you guys need to start using UIS1? I.e. what features from UIS2 would UIS1 need for more people to use it?



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DavidK
Reply #18 Saturday, August 31, 2002 1:09 AM
Actually I've started making UIS1 skins for all the new ones I'm doing (you just haven't seen any of them yet). It's great having a matching skin that works with Photoshop The UIS1 format already does a lot more than it used to like putting buttons anywhere on the titlebar and being able to cut away shapes in the titlebar with transparency.

I'd like it if titlebar text effects worked in UIS1. And it would be nice if you added the right-click rollup to skin studio - it took me forever to find which section it needed to be in to work.
da_zman20
Reply #19 Saturday, August 31, 2002 4:48 AM
I don't know if any one mentioned this, but I think there needs to be some way to re-color the part that used to be refered to as the web in windows xp. I know it has something to do with the msstyles.dll or something like that... why not make a generic one that can use what ever images you put into it... just a thought... when running most of my favorite skins, like Sage, by Treetog... skin looks good... wallpaper to match, but the skin is red and black, the wallpaper is red and black, but that area draws attention since it is blue... just saying... that's the big thing for me...

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Lecrayon
Reply #20 Saturday, August 31, 2002 12:18 PM
Hmmm...Good thread Treetog
Please forgive me if I sum up something that already is possible.
I would like:

- to be able to make layouts for submenu's, instead of only pull down, and place it
anywhere on the screen
- the triangle pointer arrows for submenu's skinnable
- horizontal and vertical seperators in "more programs" submenu being skinnable, which
also appears in submenu "making connections" from start panel places list
- the mouse over on bottombar in startpanel being transparent, making mouse over effect
on the logoff buttons better visible

Found bugs:

- MDI buttons aren't appearing transparent, mouse over isn't working
- Transparency in pull down item (first on top) seems to be overwritten by pull down
item, haven't checked if the same happens to pull down item (last on bottom)

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