I Know I Can Do This!!!!
Monday, August 26, 2002 by elvee | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
elvee pounds his head against the door over and over and over and over and... >
First, i want to thank LadyWolf for inspiring me to make "the skinners leap", But Man this stuff is hard!
I'm trying something simple like Beatnik and Coolplayer, and i got everything planned out in my head. The problem is getting it from the Brain to the mouse.
elvee grabs his mouse and starts choking it > 
Let's see what happens if i try some drawings on paper..see if that helps.
First, i want to thank LadyWolf for inspiring me to make "the skinners leap", But Man this stuff is hard!
I'm trying something simple like Beatnik and Coolplayer, and i got everything planned out in my head. The problem is getting it from the Brain to the mouse.
elvee grabs his mouse and starts choking it >
Let's see what happens if i try some drawings on paper..see if that helps.
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elvee
Reply #2 Monday, August 26, 2002 10:40 PM
Reply #2 Monday, August 26, 2002 10:40 PM
Beatnik is not the problem. I know how Beatnik works.
I never skinned anything in my life...Thats my problem
I never skinned anything in my life...Thats my problem
WOM
Reply #3 Monday, August 26, 2002 11:05 PM
Reply #3 Monday, August 26, 2002 11:05 PM
elvee- I was going to try a wallpaper but photo shop took to long to do anything. To little ram. So I quit. >
elvee
Reply #4 Monday, August 26, 2002 11:13 PM
Reply #4 Monday, August 26, 2002 11:13 PM
I think i have something working. But i'm warning ya...Its pretty simple. I'll keep working on it though. not ready for show yet.
Dreamdesign3d
Reply #5 Monday, August 26, 2002 11:14 PM
Reply #5 Monday, August 26, 2002 11:14 PM
lol I'm having the same problem trying to figure it out making skins but no one replyed to my ques. in the message board.
LadyWolf
Reply #6 Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:18 PM
Reply #6 Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:18 PM
wow elvee, thank you! good luck ... 
and, if you figure out how to skin something, please let me know!!!! hahaha ... i've tried ... i failed ...
and, if you figure out how to skin something, please let me know!!!! hahaha ... i've tried ... i failed ... 
Well back to the drawing board
JamesT
Reply #9 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:22 AM
Reply #9 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:22 AM
I haven't skinned much and I know it can be difficult, but keep trying elvee. The best way to learn is just jump in and play around with it trying different ideas.
I have yet to attempt to skin one of the more difficult programs. Rainlender was the most difficult one I've done so far. lol
I have yet to attempt to skin one of the more difficult programs. Rainlender was the most difficult one I've done so far. lol
moshi
Reply #10 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:05 AM
Reply #10 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:05 AM
hey James, no need to put down your skinning skills, actually your Rainlendar skin is one of the most complete around, and the alpha blending is sweet. needless to say there are a lot of apps that are much easier to skin.
there is a little bug though (in Rainlendar, not your fault). when you apply images with the skinning gui, it will write hardcoded paths to Rainlendar.ini file. this makes the skin unusable for people that do not have installed the skin in the same directory as you (all non-english users and probably a lot more).
fixing it is easy. after you finished skinning and everything works nice on your system, open Rainlendar.ini with your text editor and remove the paths.
example:
DaysBitmapName=C:\Program Files\Rainlendar\Globes by Jim\Days.bmp
-------->
DaysBitmapName=Days.bmp
i learned this on this message board as well, when Renato asked about the app and people were complaing that the skins seem to be incompatible. so i opened the file and had a deeper look into it (as a LiteStepper i am a little ashamed i trusted a gui for skinning that much, hehe)
needless to say there are a lot of apps that are much easier to skin.there is a little bug though (in Rainlendar, not your fault). when you apply images with the skinning gui, it will write hardcoded paths to Rainlendar.ini file. this makes the skin unusable for people that do not have installed the skin in the same directory as you (all non-english users and probably a lot more).
fixing it is easy. after you finished skinning and everything works nice on your system, open Rainlendar.ini with your text editor and remove the paths.
example:
DaysBitmapName=C:\Program Files\Rainlendar\Globes by Jim\Days.bmp
-------->
DaysBitmapName=Days.bmp
i learned this on this message board as well, when Renato asked about the app and people were complaing that the skins seem to be incompatible. so i opened the file and had a deeper look into it (as a LiteStepper i am a little ashamed i trusted a gui for skinning that much, hehe)
Jafo
Reply #11 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:23 PM
Reply #11 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:23 PM
moshi...shame on you...
Best way to 'start' skinning virtually any proggy is to grab an existing skin and mess with it and observe the results....that way you learn what does what to which and why....then you keep on modding it till it's nothing like the original, et voila, you have skinned...
Best way to 'start' skinning virtually any proggy is to grab an existing skin and mess with it and observe the results....that way you learn what does what to which and why....then you keep on modding it till it's nothing like the original, et voila, you have skinned...
JamesT
Reply #12 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:34 PM
Reply #12 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:34 PM
Thanks for the info Moshi. I didn't know about that problem in Rainlendar.
And Jafo, I agree with you. Instructions and tutorials are handy, but the best way is to get in there and get your hands dirty, so to speak.
And Jafo, I agree with you. Instructions and tutorials are handy, but the best way is to get in there and get your hands dirty, so to speak.
elvee
Reply #13 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:40 PM
Reply #13 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:40 PM
I'm fooling around with The Gimp right now trying to figure it out.
elvee scratches his head thinking "What have i gotten myself into now?"
elvee scratches his head thinking "What have i gotten myself into now?"
Chris
Reply #14 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:52 PM
Reply #14 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:52 PM
I dunno. let me know when you figure it out. So far I can make rectangles and flood fill them... 
Jafo
Reply #16 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:10 PM
Reply #16 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:10 PM
Hey, Chris......what's a rectangle?
and why would you want to flood it?....
and why would you want to flood it?....
Koasati
Reply #17 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:10 PM
Reply #17 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:10 PM
Listen to Jafo.............that's exactly how I got started. 
Chris
Reply #19 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:24 PM
Reply #19 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:24 PM
Isn't a rectangle a circle with four sides? Or is it a four-sided triange?
Koasati
Reply #20 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:38 PM
Reply #20 Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:38 PM
A rectangle is a circle with too much anti-aliasing.
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Reply #1 Monday, August 26, 2002 10:27 PM
I believe you have to create the graphics for all of the instances and the background, and then in the skin thingy you get to apply each per setting...or something like that. still trying to get the creative juices going on my end....