I hate to say this...
Saturday, August 24, 2002 by Boza | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I think it's a dumb thing to demand money for this stuff...
It's nasty!
Well.. I think a lot of the artist have bought some stardock stuff... so they don't really care. But those who have not! Those who have sent wallpapers and stuff and now have to pay for it!!!
without 'em, you'd be nothing! So keep it as it is, don't make any restrictions... Perhaps one restriction... (wallpapers:) You have to upload a wallpaper, get it confirmed by some artists <-- so this server won't be filled with crap!), for every 20 downloads of wallpapers you make...
else... I'm out'a here!
It's nasty!
Well.. I think a lot of the artist have bought some stardock stuff... so they don't really care. But those who have not! Those who have sent wallpapers and stuff and now have to pay for it!!!
without 'em, you'd be nothing! So keep it as it is, don't make any restrictions... Perhaps one restriction... (wallpapers:) You have to upload a wallpaper, get it confirmed by some artists <-- so this server won't be filled with crap!), for every 20 downloads of wallpapers you make...
else... I'm out'a here!
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messybuu
Reply #42 Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:36 PM
Reply #42 Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:36 PM
Mgorbach: Can you name this free server that'll host any site for free no matter how large or popular it is? That sounds rather intriguing.
Boza
Reply #44 Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:49 PM
Reply #44 Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:49 PM
The reason you've not seen me is that I registered about a year ago, downloaded 3 wallpapers, cause I liked them. Now I came back cause I got an email about some new WindowFX2, and wanted to check it out. (Personally, I don't use any skinning software at all. I like windows the way it is, except for the boring blue background) so I went to this site, and thought *whatahell... lets check if ther's any new wallpapers* Of course there was... I downloaded one... left a comment, then... tried to download anotherone... no go... I read briefly about the site, and it's merge with stardock, and that you had to pay for downloading. My head started to spin, and I desperatly searched for a forum to express my feelings about it...
I'm not a skinner... But I like doing graphic prictures for wallpapers, and I'll gladly share my part, If I can get unlimited download of others work
"5) people who could not for whatever reason subscribe to WC" You mean they had constipation
joking aside
Almost free is not free...
charge for others work is just what I DON'T like
now... was there anything else?
I read briefly about the site, and it's merge with stardock, and that you had to pay for downloading. My head started to spin, and I desperatly searched for a forum to express my feelings about it...I'm not a skinner... But I like doing graphic prictures for wallpapers, and I'll gladly share my part, If I can get unlimited download of others work
"5) people who could not for whatever reason subscribe to WC" You mean they had constipation
joking aside
Almost free is not free...
charge for others work is just what I DON'T like
now... was there anything else?
bakerstreet
Reply #45 Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:53 PM
Reply #45 Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:53 PM
Bill: if people are accustomed to taking whatever they want with no regard for ownership, then they will assume everything is free, like webbsites.
mgorbach
Reply #46 Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:56 PM
Reply #46 Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:56 PM
lol backerstreet thats true, i never said i had artistic talent, just know how to use photoshop and noticed there werent any nice xp icons, so i made them for myself, and i uploaded, seems they got quite a bit of downloads too. Messiah that would be nice, unfortunatly it doesent exist, i was talking about all the free sites on the net, especially the ones without adds, they do exist, and i think the reason for that is the communities behind them.
Mercury
Reply #47 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:02 PM
Reply #47 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:02 PM
Damn! 4 walls and you reached the 100 meg limit! Where are these huge walls? Must be some killer details in there to be so big!
Bill: Personally I think it's great to have the old baker back! Nobody wields the poison pen better!
Bill: Personally I think it's great to have the old baker back! Nobody wields the poison pen better!
bakerstreet
Reply #48 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:07 PM
Reply #48 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:07 PM
mgorbach: no, you said a lot of other things, many of which you would like to distance yourself from nowno doubt. The facts are, though, that there are *no* free sites in this 'community', and neither person that is railing on this string has offered the first original peice of art that I can find. Stardock, on the other hand has done a great deal, regardless of whether they do it for profit or not, they have at least done something. P.S. 'borrowing' graphics has nothing to do with a lack of talent, lack of ethics, perhaps, or self-esteem...
There are other sites that may 'seem' free, but if you start thinking more and talking less you'll find that everything has to be paid for, and if you don't help out, others have to do it out of their own pockets. You might find it a perfect deal to drain other people dry without giving back, but it looks awfully sad to me.
I made a post that both you are ignoring above, 5:11:29 PM. Go back and re-read it. You will have happier lives if you understand what I tried to say.
There are other sites that may 'seem' free, but if you start thinking more and talking less you'll find that everything has to be paid for, and if you don't help out, others have to do it out of their own pockets. You might find it a perfect deal to drain other people dry without giving back, but it looks awfully sad to me.
I made a post that both you are ignoring above, 5:11:29 PM. Go back and re-read it. You will have happier lives if you understand what I tried to say.
Boza
Reply #49 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:09 PM
Reply #49 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:09 PM
Hell.. this turned out to be quite a big topic... Don't you guys have something else to do? 
Me neither
Me neither
bakerstreet
Reply #50 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:10 PM
Reply #50 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:10 PM
lmao... the last gasp of an ignorant perspective. 'nuff said.
kith
Reply #51 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:11 PM
Reply #51 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:11 PM
nope, not today! This topic does bring out the best in us doesn't it!
Boza
Reply #52 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:14 PM
Reply #52 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:14 PM
bakerstreet: I'm not ignoring it... I've read it...
pjpowell
Reply #53 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:15 PM
Reply #53 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:15 PM
Things are free until they get popular. As soon as they get popular then someone has to pay.
Skinning previously was 'free' due to the fact that it did not suck up anywhere near as much bandwidth as it does today. Just look at how many downloads a single skin would get in the days of skinz. Also skins back then were much less complex and hence not as large. WB skinned less so therefore there were less images and cnsequently less space being used up. More people had 56k modems so skins were typically a lot smaller. You'd think your skin was really popular if you broke 1000. Nowadays it's more like 5,000.
Now some maths (and I'm the first to admit I'm not very good at it):
a single 500k skin * 5000 = 2,500,000k
Multiply that by 10 : 25,000,000k
That is for 10 skins of 500k being downloaded by only 5000 people.
Adni's most popular WB skin has had 305,908 downloads since it's creation in February
It is 262k. so that is 80,147,896k just from that skin alone.
DesktopX themes are usually considerably bigger.
Mormegil's Faus-X theme has had less downloads at 81,888 (since Oct 2000) but is also considerably bigger at 2521k. This means it has used a whopping 206,439,648k
I think the numbers speak for themselves.
pjpowell gives up for the night and goes to sleep.
Skinning previously was 'free' due to the fact that it did not suck up anywhere near as much bandwidth as it does today. Just look at how many downloads a single skin would get in the days of skinz. Also skins back then were much less complex and hence not as large. WB skinned less so therefore there were less images and cnsequently less space being used up. More people had 56k modems so skins were typically a lot smaller. You'd think your skin was really popular if you broke 1000. Nowadays it's more like 5,000.
Now some maths (and I'm the first to admit I'm not very good at it):
a single 500k skin * 5000 = 2,500,000k
Multiply that by 10 : 25,000,000k
That is for 10 skins of 500k being downloaded by only 5000 people.
Adni's most popular WB skin has had 305,908 downloads since it's creation in February
It is 262k. so that is 80,147,896k just from that skin alone.
DesktopX themes are usually considerably bigger.
Mormegil's Faus-X theme has had less downloads at 81,888 (since Oct 2000) but is also considerably bigger at 2521k. This means it has used a whopping 206,439,648k
I think the numbers speak for themselves.
pjpowell gives up for the night and goes to sleep.
bakerstreet
Reply #54 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:17 PM
Reply #54 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:17 PM
Boza... My apologies. I assumed you were being righteously indignant out of childishness. It seems instead you have taken wise council and shut your trap. My apologies. Keep on that heading and your cheesbugers will be spit-free for the remainder of your days...
Boza
Reply #55 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:19 PM
Reply #55 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:19 PM
bakerstreet: I don't have to agree, or do I?
Everyone's different... especially me
Everyone's different... especially me
brazil
Reply #57 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:22 PM
Reply #57 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:22 PM
For the artists who make all this possible to do it for free is absurd.They are worth twice as much as there being paid!!I cannot believe people want it for free!!I call that the Mac way of thinking.Well, it does not cost that much for an endless supply of fun.The skinners are great at what they do and should be compensated well for it!!I for one find it very affordable.Keep up the good work and never mind the moochers.Tell them to do their own and then it's free!!
Boza
Reply #58 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:25 PM
Reply #58 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:25 PM
Well bakerstreet, you're right... But this can't be applied to a fast food restaurant. Of course it's just an excample... but my point is.
Don't change for others work.
I don't work for stardock, so I don't want them to take charges for my work if I gave it to them for free.
Don't change for others work.
I don't work for stardock, so I don't want them to take charges for my work if I gave it to them for free.
Boza
Reply #59 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:25 PM
Reply #59 Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:25 PM
Well bakerstreet, you're right... But this can't be applied to a fast food restaurant. Of course it's just an excample... but my point is.
Don't charge for others work.
I don't work for stardock, so I don't want them to take charges for my work if I gave it to them for free.
Don't charge for others work.
I don't work for stardock, so I don't want them to take charges for my work if I gave it to them for free.
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Reply #41 Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:29 PM