So the computer finally is showing it's age

Monday, January 14, 2013 by kona0197 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

It's taken me awhile to start this thread, sorry. I know this may end up in flame wars. Again I am sorry.

So everyone knows my situation. Well those close to me on this site do. My computer is finally showing signs of how old it truly is. Keep in mind my computer has a Pentium 4 processor so I am guessing this setup to be almost ten years old. The problem, even after a few friends helped me here with a new hard drive and more memory, is the rest of the system. The processor can't keep up with the newer operating systems. I'm having a hard time just running XP. Found out the other day my DVD Burner drive is almost dead as it will read disc sometimes and other times it will not. Monitor is on it's last legs as well. Hard to read anything and the brightness is going out. It's an old CRT Dell monitor that is almost as old as the tower.

As Starkers had told you this computer is my main way to communicate with the things that are important in my life. So I was hoping someone out there had a few newer parts I could install to extend the life of the machine a bit. Nothing special. I already have DDR2 memory and a newer hard drive. Just need a few other things.

So carry on. Discuss I guess.

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kona0197
Reply #621 Wednesday, March 6, 2013 9:44 AM

Hey Ace I had a question. Did you ever get a 20 second lag between the time you pressed the power button till the time the board actually posted on screen? This board does that every time I turn it on. I was curious if this was normal. 

kona0197
Reply #622 Thursday, March 7, 2013 9:40 PM

Hey Ace, still having this issue, was curious if this is normal or a defect in the board, thanks!

Jafo
Reply #623 Thursday, March 7, 2013 10:01 PM

It'll be normal, though it's possible a bios flash upgrade might change it a bit.  It'll be the auto-detect of drives, etc most likely.

20 seconds at boot isn't an 'issue' worth possibly screwing a MoBo up over by flashing the Bios and getting it wrong.

If it ain't broke...don't fix it....

starkers
Reply #624 Thursday, March 7, 2013 10:15 PM

kona0197
Hey Ace I had a question. Did you ever get a 20 second lag between the time you pressed the power button till the time the board actually posted on screen? This board does that every time I turn it on. I was curious if this was normal.

I've had some mobos that took around that to post, so it's likely normal and nothing to worry about.

Wizard1956
Reply #625 Thursday, March 7, 2013 10:48 PM

Yep, my MSI mobo takes a bit to power up, spin the fans, etc. before the post screen appears. Nothing to worry about.

AceMatrix
Reply #626 Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:26 PM

Yes Kono, that is normal for that board. It has a couple of extra features / options built into the software ,so it takes it a tad longer to run the analysis as it's getting ready to boot.   -- Ace --

CarGuy1
Reply #627 Saturday, March 9, 2013 7:48 AM

Look for a quick boot function in CMOS and turn it on if you have one. It will bypass a few of the boot up tests if you want it to.

kona0197
Reply #628 Saturday, March 9, 2013 12:05 PM

That option is already turned on. 

AceMatrix
Reply #629 Saturday, March 9, 2013 3:17 PM

I guess you'll just have to sacrifice a few seconds off your life everyday.          -- Ace --

DaveRI
Reply #630 Saturday, March 9, 2013 5:16 PM

AceMatrix

I guess you'll just have to sacrifice a few seconds off your life everyday.          -- Ace --

For awhile my XP was so clogged up I'd start my coffee while I was waiting for it to get fired up.

kona0197
Reply #631 Saturday, March 9, 2013 9:59 PM

I'm not worried about waiting for the system to boot, no worries. I was just curious if that was a normal behavior. Thanks!!

kona0197
Reply #632 Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:45 PM

OK guys I am running into a few problems so I thought I would seek some advice here. Thanks in advance, I appreciate it.

Audio port is very loose. It is a 3.5 mm jack. It is built in to the motherboard. I borrowed a newish sound card from a friend yet there is no drivers for a ESS1988S soundcard. Turns out they only make 32 bit drivers and I am using Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. Any fixes?

Boot time is still an issue. It is taking almost three minutes to boot. I have BIOS set to fast boot, no logo, and nothing but AVG set to start with Windows. Any fixes?

On the whole it seems the whole system is sluggish. Virus, malware, and spyware scans come up clean. Very puzzled by this. My girlfriend's dual core notebook is working faster. 

Wizard1956
Reply #633 Wednesday, March 13, 2013 8:00 PM

Boot times, I can't help you with, but for your loose audio port, get one of these and connect your speakers to a usb port.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Manhattan-150859-Hi-Speed-USB-3D-Sound-Adapter/20612338?findingMethod=rr  or

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Syba-USB-2.0-Stereo-Sound-Adapter/14271748?findingMethod=rr

Frankief
Reply #634 Wednesday, March 13, 2013 8:50 PM

You might give this little utility a go. I have used it on many screwed up systems and it has been a gem on all of them. It has an excellent startup manager and monitors your boot time. It is free:http://www.majorgeeks.com/Kingsoft_PC_Doctor_d7112.html

It is the first thing I install when someone brings there system to me for repair.

kona0197
Reply #635 Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:33 PM

Wow. That Kingsoft PC Doctor has the system booting in about a mintue and 20 seconds. Very impressive, thank you. 

I'm still noticing a very big lag time when launching apps. Firefox and iTunes take minutes to start up.

I will also look into those USB sound cards, thanks.

Does anyone screw with services and disable some to improve performance? If so what ones?

Frankief
Reply #636 Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:30 AM

If you run the startup optimizer it also does services. It will delay what can be delayed and disable what can be disabled. It is a pretty powerful little gem and does a conservative registry cleaning, temp files etc. This all with the one key optimizer. My daughters laptop was practically unusable with freezing and blue screens and just installing and running PC Doctor solved about 90 % of the problems. My boot time is down to 33 seconds after going through its recommendations. I have been using it for quite a while and it has never screwed up anything. I do the one key optimizer daily to clean up and all is good. Poke around in the program and you will see the services and what it recommends.

the_Monk
Reply #637 Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:31 PM

kona0197

Wow. That Kingsoft PC Doctor has the system booting in about a mintue and 20 seconds. Very impressive, thank you. 

I'm still noticing a very big lag time when launching apps. Firefox and iTunes take minutes to start up.

I will also look into those USB sound cards, thanks.

Does anyone screw with services and disable some to improve performance? If so what ones?

 

 

Was your system behaving (booting etc.) so sluggishly right from vanilla Windows 7 install?

 

If so, I would suggest that something is either misconfigured in your BIOS or you're having performance issues with an attached/installed piece of hardware.  

I can say this much for reference.  I run all of my systems as closely to vanilla OS (with all service packs and patches etc.) as possible.  I only install third-party programs when the OS doesn't have an inherent ability to already do what I need.  What I mean by that is, I don't actually customize anything within the OS (yes yes I know Jafo....this IS the windows customize place.....hehe ) and so most of my systems are pretty much like 'consoles' to me.

Having said that (I am not trying to convince you of anything just pointing out my setup for reference), I have systems ranging from the DELL 2005 Inspiron notebook I reference in the "oldest hardware you've installed Win8 on" thread (1.6GHz Pentium M Centrino with 2GB RAM) to full-on gaming rigs (Intel Core 2 Duo's with 16GB RAM etc.) and none of my systems (even while they were still on Windows 7) have ever taken more than 20-30 seconds or so to get to the desktop from a cold boot.  No bootup manager software, no services stopped, no third-party software (certainly not running on startup) and they all boot in around 20 seconds or so.  Once started there are roughly 32 processes running (default Windows install).

Honestly, like I said......if it was always this slow/sluggish from vanilla OS I'd suspect BIOS misconfiguration or other hardware-related issues (sometimes installed hardware can contribute to overall system slowdown etc.).

If it only began showing symptoms like this after you started 'customizing' the OS and installing programs.......well.......you'll have to do some more digging.  The fact that that 'PC Doctor' software sped up the boot time on your system indicates that at the very least you did have some installed software/startup items contributing to system boot-time slowdown.  That may again not be the only contributing factor though if you are still observing overall system sluggishness.

 

At any rate.....I would never tolerate a boot-time over 30 seconds........that's just me though.....   

 

 

just my 2 cents....

DaveRI
Reply #638 Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34 PM

kona0197
Firefox and iTunes take minutes to start up.

Is that every time you run them or just the first time, maybe right "after" boot?  I'm wondering if that's while it's still struggling with the boot.

doortech1
Reply #639 Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:00 PM

Could check your registry.

 

Run- REGEDIT{search box}

HKLM

SOFTWARE

MICROSOFT

WINDOWS

CURRENT VERSION RUN

delete anything you do not want to run at startup! Check path to be sure you do not need. But should be straightforward to do. Might be empty also/ worth a shot.

doortech1
Reply #640 Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:15 PM

There was supposed to be a comma between Current Version and run, sorry. Avg is a large program and certainly would slow startup, could open after booted. Also could stop windows search and change indexing options. Do not remember if Seven has superfetch, if so could loose that. Just suggestions. I also use ProcExplor{process explorer], free at snap files.See a better image of what is running during windows to maybe speed up program loading.

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