It's like a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

Typically the hottest thing needing cooling is the CPU...so cooling that is the prime concern....and the cooler it is the less it bleeds heat into the other components....

The only suffering going on is everyone listening to you wimper about imagined shortcomings and problems with your free PC. Give it a rest and just enjoy the thing. At least do some research on your own as to what is or is not "too high", "too low", "too hot", "too cold", "too fast", "too slow", "too noisy", too quiet" and on and on and on....................................... Until you have money to upgrade it, you have what you have, just like most of us. Run it until it drops.

I was trying to think of a way to explain it to you, but this says it all......

I find that the COOLER MASTER GeminII S524 120mm Long Life Sleeve CPU Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103100 works well and hangs over the ram(if its not real tall) and helps cool it also.....it is also one of the lowest profile coolers and fits in almost every case. Comes with a 120mm fan, but 140mm work also.

typical kona. for somebody who says he's trying to change (he's been saying that for 10 years), he hasn't changed one iota. he starts a thread crying about his rig and begs people to give him a new one and now he's constantly complaining about it. at one point it was the vid card. another was the case given to him didn't have any drive bay faceplates and now the cpu cooler isn't good enough. most people are grateful when they're given something and don't complain about it. but we're talking about kona ...... some things never change. a few of us were around back in the stardock irc days years ago and remember.

I wasn't complaining. I was merely asking questions. Can you not see the difference? And I am happy, thank you.

I wasn't whimpering. I just wanted to make sure everything was OK. I've never had a quad core machine beofre so I am in uncharted waters. Sorry.

Hey, people, let's not forget that some of us mentioned heat causing system damage... that this case he's using did not have the best cooling, etc.  Once you instill a sense of fear, it isn't always easy to overcome.... especially for someone with issues.  So how about some consideration on that score rather than finding ways to criticise the bloke.

And kona, Jafo is correct.  If you maintain lower temperatures for your CPU, case temps will naturally be lower.  At this time, however, your temps are fine, despite comments regarding inadequate airflow/ventilation with that case.  It may not be the latest and greatest, but it will serve your needs well enough for now... and if temps approach danger levels during the Summer months - and that's a BIG IF - we'll take a look at it then.

In the meantime, though, relax and enjoy your machine, okay.

And YOU don't understand. Starkers understands. I WASN"T complaining about anything so please quit and leave me alone, thank you!

And for the record I wasn't complaining about anything you mentioned. I'm starting to thing you people don't know what complaining is. I was just asking questions.

Kona, don't treat me like I'm stupid, this:

...is clearly a complaint. The rest of your system ISN'T suffering.

Again, you have been given nice things, be happy, stop worrying, your system is fine, use it, enjoy it, stop complaining.

No, that is not a complaint. A complaint would have been along the lines of "This CPU cooler sucks. Why doesn't it cool better?" My response was just a statement. I was concerned that the CPU cooler wasn't cooling the CPU well enough. I was simply caring for my computer.

No...it's a question.  You just have to know how Kona's mind works....then you see it's a question.

[What!!!! Does Kona's mind work?] ...see...

Thanks Jafo. Seriously, it wasn't a complaint. I was just asking a question so I would know. I want this computer to last as long as it can.

Ok, Jafo, if you say so. Sorry Kona, I guess I just don't understand you like some others do.

But I still want to point out that several of us have told you your temps are ok. It's like you don't believe us.

I saw it as complaining. I will now go to my corner.   

Yes, they're fine.  Mine's currently around 48c [22 ambient]  GPU is idling at 40c [104F].

There's just 2 case fans...a 140mm LianLi inlet and a new Noctua 120 exhaust linked to the CPU one - governed speed.

The GPU has its own, as does the PSU.

My older box [now Terry's] has more, though they're smaller 100mm ...but same size box.  A P4 3.0 is a bit cooler though, anyway...

Don't get too worried about heat....more modern CPUs just STFU if it gets hot and/or will let you know rudely if your CPU fan actually dies...as mine did...

Yes, we did... and several of us 'planted the seed' and told him that case could/would overheat without adequate cooling.

Seems to me, that conflict [two different stories on the same topic] would be a cause of concern for a person with anxiety issues.

And given he wants to preserve this machine for as long as possible, they're perfectly understandable questions given the circumstances.

I was not aware of issues.

You're OK Kona. Just sit, relax, have a beer or two or three, smile and do stuff. What kinda stuff? Um...lemme see.....um.....I know....fire up one of your games and go shoot up all the bad guys. Or you can open SKS and make a WB or.................help me think of more stuff.

SKS? WB? I don't use those so I don't have them installed. It's been years since I have used SKS or WB. I don't skin anymore. I prefer the default look of Windows 7.

The question begs to be asked...why are you touching the ram in the first place?

If you're that worried about heat, here's the fix, RND style...

CG, I would at least have used duct tape. And baling wire. Around these parts, that's known as a Ford repair kit.

You don't use WB?  Wow, no wonder your PC complains.....you force it to run in ugly mode.