So the computer finally is showing it's age

Monday, January 14, 2013 by kona0197 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

It's taken me awhile to start this thread, sorry. I know this may end up in flame wars. Again I am sorry.

So everyone knows my situation. Well those close to me on this site do. My computer is finally showing signs of how old it truly is. Keep in mind my computer has a Pentium 4 processor so I am guessing this setup to be almost ten years old. The problem, even after a few friends helped me here with a new hard drive and more memory, is the rest of the system. The processor can't keep up with the newer operating systems. I'm having a hard time just running XP. Found out the other day my DVD Burner drive is almost dead as it will read disc sometimes and other times it will not. Monitor is on it's last legs as well. Hard to read anything and the brightness is going out. It's an old CRT Dell monitor that is almost as old as the tower.

As Starkers had told you this computer is my main way to communicate with the things that are important in my life. So I was hoping someone out there had a few newer parts I could install to extend the life of the machine a bit. Nothing special. I already have DDR2 memory and a newer hard drive. Just need a few other things.

So carry on. Discuss I guess.

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kona0197
Reply #481 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:26 AM

The product key didn't work. I had to call it in. Was there another one that you could PM me that went with this disk?

DoorTech: Yeah, PCI.

I have noticed that hard drive light blinks every other second when using Windows 7. This happened on my last build with Windows 7 some years ago. Is it normal? Will accessing the drive that much wear out the drive?

RedneckDude
Reply #482 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:38 AM

kona0197
Is it normal? Will accessing the drive that much wear out the drive?

Yes.    No.

 

Uvah
Reply #483 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:45 PM

kona0197
Was there another one that you could PM me that went with this disk?

Unfortunately no.....that was the only one...sorry. It had been installed twice already so that might be the case. I think MS only allows two installs before you have to get a new key.

RedneckDude
Reply #484 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:21 PM

RedneckDude
Quoting kona0197, reply 210Well hopefully I will not have to call. Do they not have a way to do that over the internet? I don't like to call anyone usually. For some reason phones have always scared me.

You'll have to go to a site that will show you a list of numbers. You'll make a call that will have an automated voice asking for those numbers, then, it will give you numbers in return.

RedneckDude
Reply #485 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:22 PM

I think MS only allows two installs before you have to get a new key.
Not.

kona0197
Reply #486 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:30 PM

Well they didn't give me a new key. Just had me put in a bunch of numbers.

RedneckDude
Reply #487 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:47 PM

kona0197
Well they didn't give me a new key. Just had me put in a bunch of numbers.

And if you did it correctly, they should have given you back a bunch of numbers, not a key.

 

Numbers that you would then enter into the page you still have open, the one you got the numbers from, (the ones you gave them).

 

Once that is done, it would activate your install.

 

RedneckDude
Reply #488 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:53 PM

Assuming that the key isn't being used on any other machine.

kona0197
Reply #489 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:59 PM

Yeah, that is what happened. All is well, Windows is activated.

On a side note I am thinking about disconnecting some of the case fans. Damn thing is noisy, and in the same room where we watch TV. Sometimes the machine makes it hard to hear the TV.

Machine took a full 5 minutes to wake from sleep this morning. The Pentium 4 only took a few seconds on XP. So I turned off hybrid sleep. Hope that was the right move.

I'm now tuning the EQ settings for music and reinstalling the rest of my programs.

Wizard1956
Reply #490 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 3:20 PM

kona0197
I am thinking about disconnecting some of the case fans.

Well, don't come crying when it starts frying. Real computers need cooling and it isn't even summer yet.

kona0197
Reply #491 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 3:32 PM

Well up here in Oregon in the Summer it rarely even gets into the 90s. Would not just the CPU fan and PSU fan suffice?

Uvah
Reply #492 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:07 PM

That's what I called a new product key. It gets Windows up and running.

RedneckDude
Reply #493 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:17 PM

kona0197
Well up here in Oregon in the Summer it rarely even gets into the 90s. Would not just the CPU fan and PSU fan suffice?

No. Case ventilation is a must.

 

Why is it so loud? Are cables in the way of the fans?

 

They shouldn't be overpowering the TV even at 100%.

RedneckDude
Reply #494 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:21 PM

I have two huge blue fans in my case (one at front, one at rear), a third on the PSU, 4th on the CPU, a 5th and 6th on my dual GFX cards. Not loud at all. Do you have them pushing the air in the correct direction?

If you have one in front, and one in back, the front pulls air in, the back one out. Possibly, if you have them opposing each other they might get loud, dunno.

kona0197
Reply #495 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:31 PM

RedneckDude
If you have one in front, and one in back, the front pulls air in, the back one out. Possibly, if you have them opposing each other they might get loud, dunno.

That is exactly how I have it set up. After looking around a bit it looks like the CPU and PSU fans are the two loudest. After I reboot I will make sure that AMD Cool And Quiet is turned on. That might help a bit. Not sure what to do about the PSU fan. It has a 120mm fan that pulls air in from the bottom, right about the top of the mobo.

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starkers
Reply #496 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:35 PM

kona0197
Well up here in Oregon in the Summer it rarely even gets into the 90s. Would not just the CPU fan and PSU fan suffice?

No, you still need adequate ventilation and fans to circulate the air, otherwise stagnant air will heat, thus causing your components to heat, and you don't want that.  I would try to discover which fan/fans are the noisiest and see if you can't swap them with fans from your old case or the other one Doortech sent you.  I mean, if this is your main rig and the other cases are spare, I'd cannibalise those for quieter fans to get the best result for the primary beastie.  Oh, and be sure to enable Cool & Quiet to help reduce CPU heat.

I see that the CPU scores well in the WEI, which makes me happier that I decided upon the 920 quad core instead of the dual core I first thought to send.  In fact, Windows 8 would probably run fairly well on that setup, and I doubt the video card would have much bearing on its performance over all, so if you're not running higher end games it should serve you well for some time to come.

doortech1
Reply #497 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:38 PM

could just be the make of the fans also. Is the case you are using vented on both sides? If not and the thermal take is, switch, it would allow the board and cpu to cool from underneath also, big difference. I do not use my quiet cool, personal preference.Do you have specs on the cpu for wattage? we can get the board wattage to make sure its compatible. Very slim chance this is a heat issue though. Definitely check the direction, easily mixed up. Wet you finger, hold paper in front of it, or something similar, to verify direction. Pull air in from the side, out the back. Make sure its not wedged in a corner. If you could move it to the floor under a desk, would be quieter and cooler?Just a suggestion. Did you find a cpu alarm? I would just until you get cooling figured.I would suggest if you have extra slots in the front of the case for disk drives and such, take out a plug, or faceplate, to let air flow from the front.

doortech1
Reply #498 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:53 PM

our posts crossed paths, sorry to ask things you answered already. Does pinching up on the psu unit change the pitch of the noise at all? If so, could shim between case with some cushion.The psu could be rattling the case too. The fans in the psu might be cheap brand?I would try that other case , up to you though. I will do some research on that board wattage and cpu wattage . If by some chance its wrong, it could cause excessive heat.

doortech1
Reply #499 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:57 PM

I see vents on the bottom of that case also, could tou put something under the corners to raise it up and let air in.?

doortech1
Reply #500 Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:59 PM

That is a typo. Could you put!

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