Seriously. WTH is wrong with people?
315 million Americans say, "Eff it. Just eff it all."
Friday, December 14, 2012 by DrJBHL | Discussion: Community
Today the President, many other Americans and yours truly shed tears. It's beyond belief, beyond explanation and beyond any understanding.
Despite the grief felt after Columbine, Aurora and most recently Portland, today's "event" added a new dimension to the insanity which cavorts in our country. Twenty children aged 5-10. Teachers. Those who dedicate their lives to opening the minds and spirits of those precious, fragile sprouts.
Despite this newest horror, this appeared on Twitter:
Vipers: No compassion. No genuine human feeling. Sociopaths and psychopaths waiting to happen to some other group of people here or somewhere else. 'People'/airheads who interact with keyboards and touch screens who have no thought beyond, "entertain me". No, not vipers... vipers are snakes which do what they're supposed and succeed at doing in the context of normal Nature. These creatures are something else entirely.
If you see people crying or somber, nod your head to them. They are real people.
If you see people laughing and acting happy, ask them "Have you heard what happened in Newtown, Connecticut?". Odds on the answer will be, "Huh?". If after you tell them, they respond blithely: Run!
Run for your life.
Reply #2 Friday, December 14, 2012 7:01 PM
As the generation of people who survived the holocaust, and those who's children died stopping it pass into history, can another Hitler be that far behind?
I'm sorry, I can say no more.
Reply #3 Friday, December 14, 2012 7:09 PM
Reply #6 Friday, December 14, 2012 7:17 PM
Today 20 angels were born…
Thoughts and prayers to all the victims loved ones.
Reply #7 Friday, December 14, 2012 7:17 PM
Doc, what do you expect out of Twits?
As for the shooting...words can not express the sorrow that I feel.
Reply #8 Friday, December 14, 2012 7:19 PM
Doc, when I read news releases about stuff like this I always include this line in my comments: "The sickness of the human race once again rears its ugly head."
When you come right down to it, over half the human race is sick and not even worth the sperm that created them unfortunately, and stuff like this just proves it.
When I read the shooting story, I too cried.
Reply #9 Friday, December 14, 2012 7:21 PM
I read he suffered some mental illness along with Asperger syndrome...
Or.. he could have been anti gun.. and decided to use his mothers guns to shoot her, (in the face) and her whole class.. to prove a point.
Possessed by demons? Perhaps..
We will probably never really know his true motivations..
Say a prayer, hug your kids, tell your loved ones you love them.. and try to move on.
Evil has always been here and will always.. be here.
A million times more people, including children are killed by Cars, drugs, alcohol, knives, lightning, sharks, fires, tornadoes, etc ...every year.
When it's your time to go... it's your time. We can't avoid death, the best any of us can hope for is a good run.
RIP little ones, I hope, I sincerely hope.. you are all, in a MUCH better place than those you have left behind this day.
Reply #10 Friday, December 14, 2012 7:56 PM
Or.. he could have been anti gun.. and decided to use his mothers guns to shoot her, (in the face) and her whole class.. to prove a point.
Excuse me?
My son suffers from Aspergers, he isn't a mass murderer.
Anti-gun people don't shoot people.....with guns. Would it be ok with you then if he just blew up the building as in Oklahoma City?
Yes., people die from all sorts of things. Being gunned down in GRADE SCHOOL shouldn't be one of them.
Trivializing the murder of children is the height of insensitivity. May your grandchildren, and your great-grandchildren be raised and taught better than this.
What's the matter John, did you too miss out on seeing Bieber?
Reply #11 Friday, December 14, 2012 8:04 PM
Whoa, Wiz....
Let's not attack each other. Please.
I had hoped we'd unite in offering our condolences to those who are hurt and suffering. I don't think John was trivializing anything deliberately.
We all show pain to varying degree... I don't think he was trivializing the event, only less publicly emotiotional about it. We Americans tend to be more demonstrative that way...which is ok too.
Let's not fight. Please.
Reply #12 Friday, December 14, 2012 8:10 PM
I'm not attacking anyone. Make of it what you want.
Back to my silence. My comment stands.
Reply #13 Friday, December 14, 2012 8:14 PM
Didn't say you did. Just asking for peas and hominy.
And no silence needed... really.
Reply #14 Friday, December 14, 2012 8:14 PM
I dont think I trivialized anything.. just throwing out what Ive read about the shooter from extensive reading today..and sorry if in some way it struck a bad chord with you.
Doesn't have anything to do with anyone else suffering the same illness...wasn't an indictment of Asbergers.... but also doesn't mean it wasn't part of the this guys overall psyche either.
Being killed by a drunk driver shouldn't be one of them.. being stabbed by a knife wielding maniac shouldn't be one of them, being strangled by a meth addict shouldn't be one of them, but IT HAPPENS.....all.. the time... yet, I don't see anyone talking about it... and I mean.. in the thousands.. several thousands, every year, senseless deaths.. yet... who.... 'among our ranks' ever talks about that??
NO.. one.
That was my main point.
My other point was.. we all go at one time or another.. but it seems that its only when its a gun crime that people are outraged.
Justin Bieber..? he's a pretty boy, celebrity, life distraction for millions of little girls, dont know his music, don't know him.. and honestly.. Wiz.. ur comment to me regarding that was way out of line... maybe u can take a step back from that and realize, I wasn't trivializing anything but trying to bring up the fact that thousands of children die EVERY day...from all kinds of other atrocities and it ALL sickens me.
Ive been watching this story from the second it happened today... In my opinion.. the guy took his mothers apparent love for guns, used them against her, and her class.. to spite her..I dont know the reason, just offering up possibilities...
Whether it was because he was anti gun and wanted to spur gun debate? Whether he was mentally ill? Whether he was evil, or possessed.. I don't know... you... don't know...either.
I repeat... RIP little ones, I hope, I sincerely hope.. you are all, in a MUCH better place than those you have left behind this day.
BTW.....Ive cried 2-3 times today..also... and I have 4 children.
Reply #15 Friday, December 14, 2012 8:36 PM
There is NOTHING, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in this universe that in any means explains or rationalizes this in any fashion what-so-ever.
It's too bad this coward took his own life before mob justice could be performed on him and i mean that with every fiber of my existence.
Don't even compare it to anything else because this is a class of shit entirely of its own filth.
Reply #16 Friday, December 14, 2012 8:55 PM
The ONLY solution is gun control.
The US seemingly does NOT WANT gun control.
The ONLY RESULT of not having gun control is you can expect more of the same - children dying.
Please don't counter with all that typical bullshit about deterrents and only-good-people-will-give-uo-guns-the-criminal-won't - that's the typical excuse of the ignorant seeking validity for gun ownership.
JUST ONE LESS gun in the world is exactly one less gun that can be used to do more of this.
The US pro-gun culture is the number one reason I am glad I am not American and/or living in America.
Reply #17 Friday, December 14, 2012 9:00 PM
Emotions tend to run hot and heavy during times like these. There is no explanation that I can fathom. Nor anyone else I'd imagine. Not citing any instances but........trying to eke out the why's and wherefore's is like an exercise in futility. This generation is unlike any I've seen, I mean......taking out frustrations, supposed grudges against whomever and not caring who is caught in the middle. Its very hard to put words to this.......our society, this whole damn world, is going to hell in a handbasket and there are not nearly enough people who even care! Seven months ago I had wished my stay on this ball of rock was over. Events like this and some on a personal level made that feeling a bit strong. Today I might be better off but that's about all that has changed. This latest is more than just sickening..........it is an abysmal testament to how low the human race has sunk! Morality, like common sense, no longer exists.
Rant over
Reply #18 Friday, December 14, 2012 9:07 PM
As to the comments on twitter .... they are likely intentional...to get a rise out of people...be controversial and score page hits so they become 'famous'.
That's just the 'me-generation' doing what they do.
Best to just ignore them...and if they ever jay-walk don't exert too much effort to avoid....
Reply #19 Friday, December 14, 2012 9:18 PM
@ Jafo - Maybe. Probably not. Rock spider type self centered repulsive creatures.
Absolute yes to gun control:
1. Possession of an unlicensed weapon on your person? Adios. Saudi style.
2. Gun sale in a gun show? Same rules as a store. End of story.
3. Need or want to sell your gun? Only to a licensed buyer. Immediate reporting by seller and buyer.
Feel free to add rules.
Second Amendment? No problem. You can get a Second Amendment era musket: Licensed the same as any other gun. Fire it at your own risk. Want a more modern weapon? Join the police/armed forces.
Reply #20 Friday, December 14, 2012 9:22 PM
What happens to the elderly person who is shot in their home because they were not allowed the means to defend themselves?
The store-owner.. shot down as he tries to make a living for his family.. that is not allowed to defend himself?
Do you think maniacs? Drug addicts, burglars, thugs, gangsters.. give a flying F... about gun control laws?
Do you think it is a coincidence that the areas with the strictest 'gun control ' laws.. have the highest level of gun related crimes? (Fact)
Do you know how many people... 'children' die every year in Washington DC.. who took ownership of the strictest gun control laws in our country?
How will YOU defend yourself from someone with an illegal gun?? Gonna throw furniture at them?
It's ironic isnt it that some of the biggest proponents of gun control in the US, are surrounded by bodyguards, carrying.. guns.
What exactly do you mean.. by gun control? Taking guns out of the hands who should legally, constitutionally, have the right to defend themselves?
fact is... Evil people will always find a way to kill others... not allowing GOOD people to defend themselves is NOT the answer.
If our communities\country paid for armed police \ guards instead of free fucking cellphones, free rent, free LIFE for people who could care LESS for others.. maybe this could have been averted....
THE best way to stop a gunman... is a gun.
PLEASE answer these questions with logical replies.... No tangents allowed.
The whole gun control argument is so naive, it's ridiculous. UNTIL we can find a way to ONLY keep guns out of the hands of the criminally insane and evil.
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Reply #1 Friday, December 14, 2012 7:01 PM
This is what most of the world has become. I wouldn't want to be in my kids shoes or for sure my Grandchildren's shoes. I was watching the special reports and the President came on. People can call me whatever they want but it was sad and brougnt tears to my eyes. I know what it feels like to lose someone that meant everything to me and it hurts. Things will get better in time but all involved will never forget and those that care about people and didn't lose a loved one in this event will never forget.