Anyone Running The New UEFI Bios?

I like it!

Thursday, December 6, 2012 by RedneckDude | Discussion: Personal Computing

I have an MSI MOBO which sports the new UEFI BIOS. I wondered how many others have it now?

 

I never see anyone talking about it.

 

You can access the BIOS from within Windows. Even from a smart phone.

 

You can surf the net from within the BIOS even!

 

Any experience with UEFI BIOS, let's hear it.

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kona0197
Reply #21 Thursday, January 3, 2013 11:55 PM

You can keep Summer down there year round. I don't want it back up here.

moshi
Reply #22 Friday, January 4, 2013 7:41 AM

kona0197

Quoting Kamamura_CZ, reply 8In general, UEFI is not a good technology. The main drive behind it is the attempt to lock your computer, because uefi supports booting to so called "trusted" platforms only - basically, it containts a set of public keys (provided by the manufacturer), and will boot only to an OS that was signed by one of those keys when "Secure Boot" is enabled. The original specification stated that there must be an off switch for Secure Boot on desktops, but that it must ALWAYS be ON on mobile platforms, so that the manufacturers could dictate what OS is eligible and what is not.

So in other words you can't use Linux on those machines. Windows or nothing right?

 

a simple Google search would have revealed that you can use Linux on these machines.

 

petrossa
Reply #23 Friday, January 4, 2013 11:08 AM


You mean the free options like disabling Secure Boot aren't good enough for you?  Fantastic, I'll write that down next time I'm in the mood to do something stupid.

Buy a dell laptop and say that again.

 

 

Savyg
Reply #24 Friday, January 4, 2013 11:29 AM

petrossa
Buy a dell laptop

That is extremely unlikely.

The other free option would be installing Linux versions that already work with it, or ones that will soon enough.

Daiwa
Reply #25 Friday, January 4, 2013 12:02 PM

You can still get Win7 on rigs from Dell.  FWIW.

starkers
Reply #26 Friday, January 4, 2013 7:11 PM

You can still get Win7 on rigs from Dell. FWIW.

Where you are, perhaps. In my neck of the woods, it's all Win 8 machines these days, and asking for/trying to order a Win 7 PC will result in a "no can do"  Proprietary machines now come only with Win 8 pre-installed here in Oz.  In mean, there may be the odd few stores in the boondocks with one or two Win 7 machines left, but they're as rare as rockinghorse shit in mainstream Australia.

I know of a few smaller PC shops that can still build Win 7 rigs for people, they still have the discs, but a recent query for my neighbour with one of the larger stores was met with: "Sorry Microsoft recalled all our Windows 7 Discs.  All we have left are Windows 8, if that's any good....."  It doesn't matter to me because I already have Win 8 installed an I'm loving it, but my neighbour is getting a bit frantic because she definitely does NOT want Win 8... despite my showing her that it is the same as Win 7 underneath and how easy it is to use with Start8, etc.  Nope, she won't have a bar of it and says she can't afford to get one with Win 7 built [about 200 bucks more].... so I'll leave her with it until she makes a decision one way or the other.

I really can't understand all this pissing and moaning over Win 8.  Sure it brought in some new features... call it Metro, but underneath is a sturdy, reliable and useable desktop just like Win 7's... only faster and with some useful new features.

Jafo
Reply #27 Friday, January 4, 2013 7:29 PM

starkers...if you are into those stores that currently ONLY stock Win8 junk....you are in the wrong stores for computers.

You're thinking Hardly Normal, JB, or the Good Guys...or some such.  They are not computer stores.  Try and find someone in any of those who actually gets past help such as "have you tried turning it off and on again?" ...

 

starkers
Reply #28 Friday, January 4, 2013 11:28 PM

starkers...if you are into those stores that currently ONLY stock Win8 junk....you are in the wrong stores for computers.

You're thinking Hardly Normal, JB, or the Good Guys...or some such. They are not computer stores.

That's pretty much what I said... the larger stores, JB, etc.  I know smaller stores... as in specialist PC stores, that can build Win 7 machines, and a few still have a proprietary rig or two laying around with Win 7 on them, but for the most part, 7 has pretty much disappeared... and HAS in 99.99% of mainstream stores... eg Good Guys, etc. 

My regular PC store was contacted by MS to return all copies of Win to Sydney HQ... Pat told them he only had one left and it had been ordered by a regular so could not do so.  Truth was, he has about 11 copies: 6 Builders; One Pro and 3 Premium, but they didn't need to know that.

Soooo, like you said, it's pretty much as I said.

 

kona0197
Reply #29 Saturday, January 5, 2013 1:02 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Windows 7 isn't that hard to find. Just have to know where to look. Hey look at that even Jafo called Windows 8 junk.

petrossa
Reply #30 Saturday, January 5, 2013 5:00 AM

kona0197
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Windows 7 isn't that hard to find. Just have to know where to look. Hey look at that even Jafo called Windows 8 junk.

Yeeah, we're making progress. Let's keep pounding more sense into them 

 

 

starkers
Reply #31 Saturday, January 5, 2013 5:32 AM

kona0197
Windows 7 isn't that hard to find. Just have to know where to look.

Maybe in the US, but here in Oz it's as scare as chooks [hens] teeth... a few smaller stores still have it, but all the larger chain/department stores are all selling Win 8 and that's it.  As I stated earlier, a couple of places told me that MS in Sydney has been recalling Win 7 discs.  Apparently the same has begun in the US, UK and Europe, parts of Asia.

As I said a couple of months ago, Microsoft will not want to be supporting multiple OSes, and this is the beginning of the end for Win 7 as well.  And though XP would supposedly be supported into 2014, the same little dicky birds who told me Win 7 would be culled from December 2012 also hinted strongly that XP support will be nixed mid-2013... "to make way for new and updated technologies".

So there you have it... maybe not from the horse's mouth, but I'm told it's reliable.

starkers
Reply #32 Saturday, January 5, 2013 5:37 AM

petrossa
Let's keep pounding more sense into them

Yeah, do that.... until you run out of alternatives [see above for why]

I'll bet my last dollar Win 7 sees another year or two... maybe three, before its support is benched.

Jafo
Reply #33 Saturday, January 5, 2013 5:41 AM

petrossa
Yeeah, we're making progress. Let's keep pounding more sense into them

Don't include me.....in that.

The only value I can see in Win8 over and above the PERFECTLY GOOD 7 is the opportunity to make use of Stardock's new trickery.

The OS leaves me cold.

RedneckDude
Reply #34 Saturday, January 5, 2013 11:41 AM

Quoting petrossa, reply 30Yeeah, we're making progress. Let's keep pounding more sense into them

Don't include me.....in that.

The only value I can see in Win8 over and above the PERFECTLY GOOD 7 is the opportunity to make use of Stardock's new trickery.

The OS leaves me cold.
I feel likewise. To me, 8 is a toy. A learning tool. Nothing more.

 

7 will be my best friend for a good long while yet.

Wizard1956
Reply #35 Saturday, January 5, 2013 12:22 PM

RedneckDude
7 will be my best friend for a good long while yet.
maybe so, but not nearly as long as I will.

kona0197
Reply #36 Saturday, January 5, 2013 3:05 PM

Starkers you can still order from Newegg even if you live outside the US. So whats your next excuse?

RedneckDude
Reply #37 Saturday, January 5, 2013 3:33 PM

Wizard1956
Quoting RedneckDude, reply 347 will be my best friend for a good long while yet.maybe so, but not nearly as long as I will.

 

Awww...you're a real pal. Wiz.  [e digicons]:')[/e]

Wizard1956
Reply #38 Saturday, January 5, 2013 3:43 PM

RedneckDude
[e digicons]:')[/e]

[e digicons]:')[/e] [e digicons]:')[/e]  [e digicons]:')[/e]  [e digicons]:')[/e]  Hmmm, it just doesn't feel the same,... somehow.........

starkers
Reply #39 Sunday, January 6, 2013 7:30 AM

kona0197
Starkers you can still order from Newegg even if you live outside the US. So whats your next excuse?

Not too many Australians would even know about Newegg, much less that they could purchase Win 7 from it.... and even if they did, I doubt many would consider purchasing a rig from the US with Win 7 pre-installed [which is how most purchase their PC's]... warranty and product servicing/return issues.

petrossa
Reply #40 Sunday, January 6, 2013 3:06 PM

You can only order from Newegg delivery in US i believe. At last, last time i checked.

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