Why Bother?
Wednesday, July 17, 2002 by UBoB | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
The rating system is EXTREMELY inconsistent. So, until the consistency improves, I have removed all of my skins. Bye!
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kith
Reply #2 Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:21 PM
Reply #2 Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:21 PM
It can be unfair, sorry that you feel you need to leave. Hope you can drop back in sometime soon.
joetheblow
Reply #3 Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:23 PM
Reply #3 Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:23 PM
I mean as far as in if it has a low number, I tend to ignore it as download it if I like it anyway.
goodmorphing
Reply #4 Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:56 AM
Reply #4 Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:56 AM
Oh nooooooooooo..... Motion! I really, really liked your stuff. Sorry to see you go; will look forward to seeing you again sometime.
migellito
Reply #5 Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:28 AM
Reply #5 Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:28 AM
sigh.. if you don't think the ratings reflect your opinion, then give it a rating.. the more ratings, the better it will reflect the holistic mind-set of the community.. if you know what i mean 
sorry to see you go.. feel free to take the comments personally.. not the ratings :/
sorry to see you go.. feel free to take the comments personally.. not the ratings :/
GreenReaper
Reply #6 Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:57 AM
Reply #6 Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:57 AM
See, this is why we want comments with the ratings. 
KenLin
Reply #7 Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:07 AM
Reply #7 Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:07 AM
Yea, hooking the ratings with the comments would be a good idea. No rating unless you leave a comment too.
It's too bad you feel the need to leave. I rarely pay attention to the ratings, myself.
It's too bad you feel the need to leave. I rarely pay attention to the ratings, myself.
werewolf
Reply #8 Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:19 AM
Reply #8 Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:19 AM
I never pay attention to the ratings. I know what I like 
One problem is that I use SkinBrowser almost exclusively now and can't apply a rating. Motion: I'm real sorry to see you go. I have always appreciated your work.
One problem is that I use SkinBrowser almost exclusively now and can't apply a rating. Motion: I'm real sorry to see you go. I have always appreciated your work. 
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #9 Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:13 PM
Reply #9 Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:13 PM
As I said in a previous post ratings given by people with little knowledge of skinning can do more harm than good. Now see what they've done.
Rating should be limited to those who post skins, at least they should be able to give a more informed mark.
Fuzzy Logic does not want to see motion leave(
Rating should be limited to those who post skins, at least they should be able to give a more informed mark.
Fuzzy Logic does not want to see motion leave(
goodmorphing
Reply #10 Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:19 PM
Reply #10 Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:19 PM
I have been afraid to rate for just that reason. Sometimes being 1 is the best thing, and sometimes being 10 the best and try as I might to always get it right I was afraid I would surely do it wrong. Not only was Motion a great skinner, but he took a lot of time to help me when I had a problem installing OD. He is a really nice person.
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adni18
Reply #11 Thursday, July 18, 2002 5:36 PM
Reply #11 Thursday, July 18, 2002 5:36 PM
Persons like motion is a honor to have them among us, because the give a certain prestige. This rating system send him away! This rating system helps NOBODY and says NOTHING!!! I know that is useless to say more about it....
I just got a rate 2 for my last uploaded wallpaper and I am not very happy about it, but if this make you happy, go on, it is ok with me.
I just got a rate 2 for my last uploaded wallpaper and I am not very happy about it, but if this make you happy, go on, it is ok with me.
davad70
Reply #12 Thursday, July 18, 2002 5:54 PM
Reply #12 Thursday, July 18, 2002 5:54 PM
It's sad to say, but I doubt even people taking drastic steps like motion is will make a difference. If the system is as inconsequential as many would like us to believe, why run the risk of losing people?
WOM
Reply #14 Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:25 PM
Reply #14 Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:25 PM
It really doesn't matter who rates. When it was Journeymam and above, you still had funny ratings. When it was apprentice and above , it did not get any better. Now it's level four and its still the same. Not enough people are rating. When i or 2 or even 3 are rating the ratings are going to be skewed. So I think more people need to rate.
Lecrayon
Reply #15 Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:59 PM
Reply #15 Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:59 PM
The thing is, you shouldn't take the ratings personal. Nobody has the wisdom to "rate" work as good or bad. Ratings here are more a sort of ranking popular works. Furthermore, everything that is approved to be in WC Databases should be displayed by default. While the admins might set their settings to display only the popular works. 
I have set mine to 1 so that I will see everything that's been submitted 
I have set mine to 1 so that I will see everything that's been submitted 
WOM
Reply #16 Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:12 PM
Reply #16 Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:12 PM
I set mine at 4. I do look at 3 and below, and have rated some of them higher. But Lecrayon, I hope that you have taken the time to rate. Everyone should.
HuronJoe
Reply #17 Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:16 PM
Reply #17 Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:16 PM
I'm sorry to see you go motion, apparently the only people who can put in a rating must be the very fortunate few that can create these objects in the first place. (Since I've never noticed anywhere that people like me can vote for anything. In fact I've just now started commenting on the various objects after a year of downloading, and that is because one of the "regulars" tipped me off that the skinners actually appreciated the comments.
joetheblow
Reply #19 Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:52 PM
Reply #19 Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:52 PM
tips are so gratifying.
where is the spell check?
I do not think we should get rid of voting ut come up with a better system that give more fead back than a number. (I also do not think it should be a letter either; grades are so lame, like internet advertising)
where is the spell check?
I do not think we should get rid of voting ut come up with a better system that give more fead back than a number. (I also do not think it should be a letter either; grades are so lame, like internet advertising)
joetheblow
Reply #20 Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:58 PM
Reply #20 Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:58 PM
Maybe somethine like:
Excellent work
Very good, I liked the ______
Nice.
and anything that is below "nice", then you have to give a tip or it will not show up on the average
Average
Maybe it needs________
Could have more________
The color was tooo___________
Weak
Try to ___________
Maybe if you had________________
Other
Comments:
Blah blah blah.....
It has to be a system that a lazy person, or a person who doe not have time, or a person who wants to help, or a person who has a view on the persons work can give a opinion
jtb
Excellent work
Very good, I liked the ______
Nice.
and anything that is below "nice", then you have to give a tip or it will not show up on the average
Average
Maybe it needs________
Could have more________
The color was tooo___________
Weak
Try to ___________
Maybe if you had________________
Other
Comments:
Blah blah blah.....
It has to be a system that a lazy person, or a person who doe not have time, or a person who wants to help, or a person who has a view on the persons work can give a opinion
jtb
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Reply #1 Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:20 PM
I don't think leaving will help matters much but protesting is a good idea.
Sometimes I like it and sometimes I wish I could turn it off.
I think the real protest is the themes manager and how to see what you want (like turning the view ratings off).
Sooooooooo... is guess the question is; How do we fix the rating system?