Dear Microsoft...

Monday, October 29, 2012 by kona0197 | Discussion: Personal Computing

So I see they came out with a tablet that runs Windows 8. I was just curious if they think they have a chance to carve out a section in the tablet market when Android owns most of the market. Apple tried with the iPad and failed. Good luck Microsoft.

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moshi
Reply #21 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:56 PM

Snowman
Exactly. Make YOUR choice.
Never choose something just because others like it. That makes you a braindead idiot.

 

that's a platitude. most people would agree with it.

benmanns
Reply #22 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:03 PM

girls also like fast cars it doesnt matter if you have 4inch thick glasses as long as you drive one right  (sarcasm)
PS sorry for using lemming in the last post... that was a bit harsh 

DrJBHL
Reply #23 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:37 PM

 

this is partly true.

should actually be on top of all that feature compare lists:

iPad - girls like it

other tablet - makes you look like a nerd

make your choice

moshi:

Here are some facts: http://ymobileblog.com/blog/2010/05/06/apple-ipad-user-analysis/

Most relevant:

So, no matter which population you look at, Males buy more iPads.

Sexism won't fly, and "iPad - girls like it" was meant to be insulting or demeaning by innuendo. You were incorrect to do that. Your statement was inaccurate by stereotyping, and also by the facts. "Other tablet makes you look like a nerd." is demeaning and insulting as well. Whichever tablet a community member chooses he/she is subject to derision. Perhaps rephrase what you wrote?

kona0197
Reply #24 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:26 PM

Snowman
The RT is 'locked' to apps-only.

So you can't even install things like Firefox? That's not right.

Island Dog
The iPad is failed? LOL

The iPad has nearly a 60% tablet marketshare.

Yet it can't even do something as simple as run Flash. As for your numbers can you post a link? Last time I checked Android had a pretty big slice of the pie.

Island Dog
Like it or not, Apple makes good hardware and software, has a great app ecosystem, and is easy to use.

That may be true. The fact still remains that Apple products cost way too much.

 

 

Jafo
Reply #25 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:29 PM

Nah, Doc...I reckon "iPad - girls like it" is why so many guys buy them....hoping to impress the girls....

Actually, the sad thing is those poor bastards who have been so intoxicated by the advertising hype and 'image' that they will waste days of their lives in a queue just so they can be an 'early adopter'.

That's the insidious power of marketing....not an actual GOOD product.

IF they were GOOD they would not suddenly discover [with the iphone 5] that a thumb's reach means they magically now fit a bigger screen.  That's UTTER BULLSHIT ...they are playing catch-up with Androids because the 4 had penis-issues of inferiority.

Didn't measure up.

moshi
Reply #26 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:30 PM

you interpret this statistic wrong. 

of course males buy more iPads. males buy more Samsung Galaxy tabs (and more Ferraris or Porsches) as well. maybe females buy more Kindles, but that device is more an ebook reader than a tablet.

i am pretty sure that females buy more iPads than Android devices.

my statement was a little ironic. i actually agree with Rolocolor that more expensive devices are bought as a status symbol. and there is nothing wrong with that. most things that men do are done to impress females. and most females are attracted by potent men.

i can see that is can be interpreted as insulting in the western societies you and i live in. our politically correct, "white", gender equality mainstream society is a shrinking minority anyways and more or less ridiculed worldwide (i travel at least twice a year).

 

Jafo
Reply #27 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:32 PM

New figures are out regarding the mobile subscriber market share in the U.S. and as always it’s interesting to particularly look at the Android vs. iPhone market share. In the quarter ending in July 2012, Google’s Android share stood at 52.2% against Apple’s 33.4% with both gaining ground although Apple’s share increase was slightly higher.

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/09/05/android-vs-iphone-market-share-52-against-33-percent/ 

kona0197
Reply #28 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:38 PM

IF they were GOOD they would not suddenly discover [with the iphone 5] that a thumb's reach means they magically now fit a bigger screen. That's UTTER BULLSHIT ...they are playing catch-up with Androids because the 4 had penis-issues of inferiority.

Don't forget the problems they had with the camera.

moshi
Reply #29 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:46 PM

kona0197
Yet it can't even do something as simple as run Flash. As for your numbers can you post a link? Last time I checked Android had a pretty big slice of the pie.

Flash is no longer supported by the latest version of Android as well.

the Metro/modern version of Internet Explorer does support Flash only for certain, approved websites.

Adobe does no longer develop Flash Player for mobile browsers.

Flash is a technology from the last decade. and consumes far to much battery for mobile devices. i certainly don't miss it. i heard p..n-sites still use it a lot, but hey ... on such a small screen ... wouldn't really make sense anyways.

 

here's the link you wanted: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/worldwide-market-share-tablet-systems-215958318--finance.html

you are probably confusing tablets with smartphones.

kona0197
Reply #30 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:58 PM

Facebook still uses Flash for games. I don't use Internet Explorer and never will. No I am not confusing smartphones with tablets. Apple products are still ridiculously overpriced.

 

moshi
Reply #31 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:02 PM

Android owns most of the market. Apple tried with the iPad and failed.

any numbers to back this up then?

DrJBHL
Reply #32 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:16 PM

Jafo - the iPad is just great, so there are lines for it. Early adopters? MS has them too. So did SSDs. They're more like social events, anyway.

As I said, I hope both succeed. I just happen to like my iPad more than other devices I looked at back then. I might like an Android as well. I don't like W8. That's just me.

We were talking tablets, btw... not phones. The iPhone leaves me cold.

 

you interpret this statistic wrong. 

of course males buy more iPads. males buy more Samsung Galaxy tabs (and more Ferraris or Porsches) as well. maybe females buy more Kindles, but that device is more an ebook reader than a tablet.

i am pretty sure that females buy more iPads than Android devices.

my statement was a little ironic. i actually agree with Rolocolor that more expensive devices are bought as a status symbol. and there is nothing wrong with that. most things that men do are done to impress females. and most females are attracted by potent men.

i can see that is can be interpreted as insulting in the western societies you and i live in. our politically correct, "white", gender equality mainstream society is a shrinking minority anyways and more or less ridiculed worldwide (i travel at least twice a year).

 

@moshi... if you care to disregard the facts, that's your concern. I'm misinterpreting nothing. Your bias is obvious. The facts are the facts. Also, females are buying more tech than males:

http://mashable.com/2012/01/09/women-and-technology/

 

Jafo
Reply #33 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:22 PM

DrJBHL
We were talking tablets, btw... not phones.

Oops...got sidetracked.

I'm sure the percentage domination of the iPad will only go 'down'.  There IS no other direction for them.

Jafo
Reply #34 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:24 PM

DrJBHL
They're more like social events, anyway.

It's called insidious advertising for a reason, Doc....

 

Hankers
Reply #35 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:28 PM

kona0197
Yet it can't even do something as simple as run Flash

There is a browser that will run flash on the iPad.

Anyways, you like them you don't like them it still boils down to USER CHOICE.

I just don't understand the iHaters bitching all the time that Apple is bad,  Android is better or Windows is better and their penis size is bigger.

Get over it. You get what you want and can afford and be happy with it.

DrJBHL
Reply #37 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:35 PM

It might... or not. Depends on the market, and on the offering. If Apple offers more for the buck in service (which is fantastic), equipment and ecosystem...they'll go on winning. If MS gets its game on and provides good service, lots of apps and superior equipment - they'll succeed as well. The percentages of which company has more or less become less significant as more and more go mobile. There's more than enough revenue for all.

The biggest problem for Android is that malware has increased exponentially for it through its apps which do not have the scrutiny which Apple's do.

One thing is good... on MS's side: The Surface with W8 Pro will be a hybrid which will compete across markets... MS fails only in that W8 isn't meant for desktops... and not for business. That will undo all that Gates did, eventually. The Cloud, in its present form cannot replace private ownership of storage devices and programs. They will, however, try to obliterate that in order to rent you the space and apps from the cloud, renting (as it were) you what you need the most.

DrJBHL
Reply #38 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:47 PM

kona0197
Yet it can't even do something as simple as run Flash.

It certainly does: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/skyfire-web-browser-your-path/id384941497?mt=8

Why not check before making such claims, kona...or at least ask?

kona0197
Reply #39 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:03 PM

It doesn't run Flash natively like a computer does where you can install it. It relies on a browser. That was my point.

Thank you Jafo. Good numbers.

DrJBHL
Reply #40 Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:26 PM

It doesn't NEED to run it natively, and that wasn't what you wrote. It's only needed to display webpages correctly (unfortunately) so it's only really needed in a browser and that compromises webpage security and browser security.

 

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