Level 4
Sunday, June 9, 2002 by WOM | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
My understanding is to become a level 4 , all I have to do is subscribe to the browser? Then this non skining citizen can rate!
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starone
Reply #2 Sunday, June 9, 2002 5:21 PM
Reply #2 Sunday, June 9, 2002 5:21 PM
According to the link on another thread, thats the way I read it. I'am not sure if thats a misprint or not. I think you need an admin to answer this to be sure.
WOM
Reply #3 Sunday, June 9, 2002 5:27 PM
Reply #3 Sunday, June 9, 2002 5:27 PM
HUM: From all the negative comments that I've seen on the subject of ratings, I wonder what this will do? This might become a circus. I hope not. I might have to shell out my $20. 
Woodbridge
Reply #4 Sunday, June 9, 2002 6:38 PM
Reply #4 Sunday, June 9, 2002 6:38 PM
Im a level 4 but I can't rate skins 
(nor can my skin browser see this thread )
(nor can my skin browser see this thread )
Woodbridge
Reply #5 Sunday, June 9, 2002 6:42 PM
Reply #5 Sunday, June 9, 2002 6:42 PM
hmm...I can see this thread in the skin broswer now.
feline
Reply #6 Monday, June 10, 2002 12:28 PM
Reply #6 Monday, June 10, 2002 12:28 PM
i have a theory 
if you go to "edit account", and then "view profile", we still have ranks as well as the new user levels.
so, i am guessing still only ranks Apprentice and above can rate skins.
this is indipendent of your user level.
however, why do i have a user level of 2?
i have a current OD subscription, and i have subscribed to wincustomize, and i have the skinbrowser to prove it.
feline wonders why stardocks computers dont seem to like my accounts
if you go to "edit account", and then "view profile", we still have ranks as well as the new user levels.
so, i am guessing still only ranks Apprentice and above can rate skins.
this is indipendent of your user level.
however, why do i have a user level of 2?
i have a current OD subscription, and i have subscribed to wincustomize, and i have the skinbrowser to prove it.
feline wonders why stardocks computers dont seem to like my accounts
Ogre66
Reply #7 Monday, June 10, 2002 1:20 PM
Reply #7 Monday, June 10, 2002 1:20 PM
feline, you need to share some chocolate with the servers. they need love too you know 
T-Man
Reply #8 Monday, June 10, 2002 2:17 PM
Reply #8 Monday, June 10, 2002 2:17 PM
"Im a level 4 but I can't rate skins" - Woodbrdige
Unfortunately not everything has been coded yet. I just made some adjustments today so you should be able to rate skins now.
Unfortunately not everything has been coded yet. I just made some adjustments today so you should be able to rate skins now.
Woodbridge
Reply #9 Monday, June 10, 2002 3:08 PM
Reply #9 Monday, June 10, 2002 3:08 PM
Thanks T-man, I shall have to start thinking about rating any new skins that I download and use.
"With great power comes great responsibility" Do you like that? I just made it up
"With great power comes great responsibility" Do you like that? I just made it up
davad70
Reply #12 Monday, June 10, 2002 7:25 PM
Reply #12 Monday, June 10, 2002 7:25 PM
Subscribers please don't take offense to this as none is intended towards you. To me this is another mild slap to the face of skinners, who had to work for a very long time at skinning to be able to rate our "peer's" work.
Jafo
Reply #13 Monday, June 10, 2002 7:54 PM
Reply #13 Monday, June 10, 2002 7:54 PM
Davad...without the subscribers/users, we'd be a bunch of lost souls stroking each-other's egos and twiddling thumbs.
Their presence and involvement is pivotal to our future/success...
After all, a 'subscriber' may just be a 'skinner who hasn't started skinning....yet'...
Their presence and involvement is pivotal to our future/success...
After all, a 'subscriber' may just be a 'skinner who hasn't started skinning....yet'...
davad70
Reply #14 Monday, June 10, 2002 8:08 PM
Reply #14 Monday, June 10, 2002 8:08 PM
Yes, I understand your point completely Jafo, and appreciate the role each of us play in the "great circle of skinning". It would just be nice to know that the people rating my work has actually made a skin before. For and example I offer the following comment left by a user on my latest skin.
nice, but its to simple...
couldn't you put some more
work into it? maybeeeee next time?
by Citizen uglypanda - 6/5/2002 7:58:06 PM
Obviously Mr. Uglypanda has never made a WB skin or he would realize that even a simple WB XP skin takes a great deal of time to make. IF he doesn't like it that's fine. I generally don't make skins that appeal to the masses, but to tell me to take more time and that it's too simple??
I can hardly wait until he forks over his 20 bucks, so that he can rate my next skin.
nice, but its to simple...
couldn't you put some more
work into it? maybeeeee next time?
by Citizen uglypanda - 6/5/2002 7:58:06 PM
Obviously Mr. Uglypanda has never made a WB skin or he would realize that even a simple WB XP skin takes a great deal of time to make. IF he doesn't like it that's fine. I generally don't make skins that appeal to the masses, but to tell me to take more time and that it's too simple??
I can hardly wait until he forks over his 20 bucks, so that he can rate my next skin.
WOM
Reply #15 Monday, June 10, 2002 8:12 PM
Reply #15 Monday, June 10, 2002 8:12 PM
Davad, I some what agree with you, but I also agree with Jafo. This is definitely a two edged sword. I hope everyone takes the responsibility that is needed and do a great job rating.
Chef Garry
Reply #16 Monday, June 10, 2002 8:12 PM
Reply #16 Monday, June 10, 2002 8:12 PM
Here's a shock - I agree completely with Davad. There are some skins I really like and others that don't speak to me. Those are purely subjective decisions based on personal preference.
I'm not competent to judge any skin based on anything other than that which I like. (I don't no nuthin' about art but I know what I like).
I won't be rating skins when the option is available - except by downloading those I want to use.
I'm not competent to judge any skin based on anything other than that which I like. (I don't no nuthin' about art but I know what I like).
I won't be rating skins when the option is available - except by downloading those I want to use.
paxx
Reply #17 Monday, June 10, 2002 10:31 PM
Reply #17 Monday, June 10, 2002 10:31 PM
Davad, the only good I can see in this is that it will bring more people to rate and maybe then increase the number of ratings. With more people ratnig, cahnces are, they might get more accurate...
Nah! I'm just talking nonsense. Don't mind me. I still don't rate anything, so what am I talking about.
Nah! I'm just talking nonsense. Don't mind me. I still don't rate anything, so what am I talking about.
feline
Reply #18 Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:01 AM
Reply #18 Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:01 AM
davad70 - To me this is another mild slap to the face of skinners, who had to work for a very long time at skinning to be able to rate our "peer's" work.
i do see your point here.
i presume you realise that under the "old" (pre subscription) system people who had never made a single skin could aquire the right to rate skins?
as someone who is currently considering skinning, i am very much aware of how much i dont know.
i have been known to rate exceptional skins that moved me, but only normally with a 9 or 10.
perhaps this is just as much an abuse of the rating system as handing out low marks, but what else is there to do?
the arguments are all well familiar by now, and i see sense on both sides.
this may not work, but what about "submitting" your work to those you consider quailfied, and asking for their views directly?
they are likely to be very busy people, but if you truely want informed feedback from people who understand what it took to produce your latest skin, what else is there?
to me, there is a difference between uploading a skin here and making it available to the masses, and getting informed considered analysis from a fellow skinner.
i am already intending to subject poor innocent starone to my first graphic experiments, just as soon as i find time to work out how to use gimp. only later will i consider uploading anything here.
after all, popular isnt quite the same as technically proficent, or of high quality
i do see your point here.
i presume you realise that under the "old" (pre subscription) system people who had never made a single skin could aquire the right to rate skins?
as someone who is currently considering skinning, i am very much aware of how much i dont know.
i have been known to rate exceptional skins that moved me, but only normally with a 9 or 10.
perhaps this is just as much an abuse of the rating system as handing out low marks, but what else is there to do?
the arguments are all well familiar by now, and i see sense on both sides.
this may not work, but what about "submitting" your work to those you consider quailfied, and asking for their views directly?
they are likely to be very busy people, but if you truely want informed feedback from people who understand what it took to produce your latest skin, what else is there?
to me, there is a difference between uploading a skin here and making it available to the masses, and getting informed considered analysis from a fellow skinner.
i am already intending to subject poor innocent starone to my first graphic experiments, just as soon as i find time to work out how to use gimp. only later will i consider uploading anything here.
after all, popular isnt quite the same as technically proficent, or of high quality
feline
Reply #19 Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:06 AM
Reply #19 Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:06 AM
Faramir - feline, you need to share some chocolate with the servers. they need love too you know
good point
feline heads off to cuddle and fuss the servers till they are happier
good point
feline heads off to cuddle and fuss the servers till they are happier
davad70
Reply #20 Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:14 AM
Reply #20 Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:14 AM
Some good points feline. I am aware that there were non skinning memebers here that had the ability to rate skins already. I never had issues with this before because I know some of those people and know that they many of them know skinning even more than me, although they've not made any skins. There are even some non skinning members that I often give pre-release versions of my skins in order to get feedback. I still get most of my feedback from skinners.
I just wonder whether it's wise to use rating, which many saw as a privilege that had to be earned, as a selling point for subscriptions.
I just wonder whether it's wise to use rating, which many saw as a privilege that had to be earned, as a selling point for subscriptions.
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Reply #1 Sunday, June 9, 2002 5:21 PM