what you show on the screen of your device is a PHONE system NOT a COMPUTER operating system eg unix multix xenix linux windows(95- 7) or (GAGGING) osx, and will even tolerate the claim that dos is a real computer operating system, but that is NOT as it restricts the user to ONE task at a time LIKE DOS did, but without the terminate and stay resident tricks BUT it will NOT update so is a PHONE program NOT an operating system, and just to totally upset you, I do have one of those oversized phones, so DO have an idea what I am talking about, and DO prefer the phones WITH buttons eg nokia & corded.

and I WAS selling mobile phones back in 1986 which is sixteen YEARS ago.

harpo

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_7_16gb

It says phone where now?  I'm kind of lost as to your claim.

http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Nexus/Nexus_7/

Phone...phone...not seeing it anywhere.

Try again.

And yes, it has a keyboard.  You type on the screen for it.  You can also use a bluetooth keyboard and mouse if you like.

and from the PAGES you linked to

'

Simple. Beautiful. Beyond Smart.' theterm smart us ONLY used in movies & tv ie GET SMART and PHONE manufacturers for the buttonless phones to distract the dumb customers from the fact that they do NOT have buttons, and like the socalled smar phones you have to bash the SCREEN to use the device, and WHEN the screen BREAKS you have to get a NEW phone/device as the SCREEN is the only way to use the device.

where as with a real computer you can either add OR replace the keyboard without needing to replace the unit

harpo

Actually 26 years ago, harpo.

Nice to know I'm not the only 'old guy' here. 

yeah thats what bluetooth is there for.  You can add or replace a keyboard without attaching anything!  Fancy.

You know what else makes it a non phone?

The fact that there is no cellular connectivity whatsoever.

harpo99999 .... nowhere is there within the definition of an 'Operating System' that it MUST be able to 'update'.

Nor does a machine's proclivity to be updated [or not] define whether it is a phone [or not].

Either you are intentionally attempting to get a 'rise' out of your fellow respondents or are more painfully naive in spite of your insistence that you are not.

It's probably time to just let it rest....

BTW.... an abacus is a 'real computer' .....

Orright, enough of that and back on topic...

So, here's the beast....

Side view 1... show how good cable management is                    

Side view 2.

Front view with ROM and soundcard front panel.

Front view in situ... shows how tall best is in comparison to desk.

Side view 3... shows just how high this beast is, next to my sexy legs.

Side view 4.... on my desk just prior to closing up, firing up.

All Fired Up and running like a dream.

So, am I happy with my new beast?  You betcha!

But is it any faster?  Some, but not hugely so at the moment.  According to AMD, the higher speeds of the Bulldozer/FX series are supposed to be seen in Win 8, which apparently handles them better than previous OSes.

Oh, the one thing that didn't go according to plan... the fans.  The mob I purchased from sent the wrong size and I have to wait 'til the right size is back in stock.  Oh well, but I'm keeping the ones they sent in error as they will serve me well in other cases.

Bulldozer is disappointing overall, but some games actually like it quite well from what I've seen.

I'm happy with my current system...don't expect to replace it before 2014, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong!

Oh, come now.....you're having a lend.....

You were quite precise with those sizes.....how could it go wrong? ....

Yeah, he had the measurements down to the  mm cm foot yard. I don't know how they could have been confused.

That's one tidy build there,Starkers. Airflow should be exceptional.

I  think the increased transfer speeds of USB 3.0 will be a big plus,  the rigs overall speed increased or not.

Yes, many testers/commenters have deemed the bulldozer rage disappointing, but then others have said it is a nice upgrade to the Phenom II series, power-wise and for its overclockability.  I did read in one review that the 8 core Bulldozers did not even surpass the Phenom II x6 1100T speed-wise, but I can confirm the FX8170 is definitely faster in Win 7, though not enormously, enormously so.  However, AMD states that the series was designed with Win 8 and beyond in mind.

Orright, have your fun while you can... I will ensure [as best as possible] in the future that I will not repeat those typos/lapses of reason.  The difference between millimetres and centimetres has been indelibly stamped into my consciousness by the ridicule heaped upon me in this thread, so after the sleepless nights double checking a metric ruler, I stand a semblance of a chance of getting it right in future.... I hope.

My work here is done....

Ah, decided to slip this one in while I wasn't looking, did ya? However, you did comment kindly regarding my tidy build so I'll forgive you, this time. 

Yeah, the airflow in the case is fantastic even without the additional fans, which I'm not in an immediate hurry for, being Winter here.  I will want them in time for Summer, though, due to plus 40c temps in these parts.

Okay then... bye.

So, will we see you elsewhere, like when you're doing a televised book signing for your latest dictionary.... in another life or something?

Oh, and the dictionary would include a comprehensive section on weights and measurements, wouldn't it!

starkers, i think you're due for a cpu cooling upgrade. (hint, hint)

Oh, yeah.....like he needs another fan....

He already has more fans than Manchester United ....

lol!  My shop wasn't that far off.

Hey, Mark... you might want to get your stuff further off the floor... also, more air circulation (think you had plans for that).

The Zalman cooler has performed well enough with multi-cores up until now, but I'm not opposed to upgrading it to protect my investment, so what would you recommend? 

I just had a look at the Thermaltake site [bookmarked so it was the easiest] and saw this.....

Its the Frio OCK... can pick it up for $74.00 AUD.  Good enough or should I go for the Frio Extreme for $91.00 AUD?

Then there's this....

The dual fan Thermaltake Jing CPU cooler at 76.00 AUD.  I've never though liquid cooling before, but for a few extra bucks or so I can get this...

It's the Thermaltake BigWater A80 all liquid cooling for $85.00 AUD

Anyhow, tell me what you think... I do like Thermaltake, just in case you didn't notice, and there are others here that I didn't ask about/feature.

You never miss an opportunity, do you... and yeah, I probably do have more fans than Man U.

The shelf the Case sits on is about an inch off the ground and the case is elevated a bit over an inch by the feet, so I'm not concerned about that.  There's about an inch either side and the desk is about 5 inches off the wall, so it has reasonable ventilation.  However, I do plan to lift the desktop lid so I can drill that series of holes in the shelf just above the top fans... of course pulling out the tower first to avoid crap dropping in the vents.

Will that be enough? Last time I stuck a computer in a space this size (albeit nearly 20 years ago) I ended up putting a floor fan against the wall behind the desk and taking the cover off of the computer.