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Tuesday, April 23, 2002 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
As some of you are no doubt aware, running this site is becoming increasingly expensive as skinning increases in popularity. WinCustomize is now ranked in the top 7,000 most popular websites in the world by Alexa after only 1 year of being around. That translates into several TERRABYTES of bandwidth used per month.
I realize some people think that WC subscriptions should be part of their Object Desktop subscription but that just isn't possible as long as ODNT is only $50. We may look at providing some sort of Stardock.net subscription in the future for $99.95 per year that includes ODNT, WC, and Drengin but for now we'll have to have it seperate.
One of the benefits of the upcoming WC subscription will be the skin browser:
https://www.stardock.com/products/skinbrowser/sb-apr02.jpg
The Skin Browser will act as a front end to this site making it much faster to navigate and much easier to do things like chat with people on the message board, make comments, rate skins, download skins, search for skins, use suites, create suites, etc. It'll be an ongoing development product (SB 1.0, 2.0, etc.).
Other goodies of a WC subscription will include exclusive skin packs, unlimited download rights, no banner ads, etc.
We'll be working on providing additional benefits as well. We still have to figure out how much it'll cost per year to subscribe.
One thing we are not going to do regardless if have pop up banner ads on the site. We just hate them too much and with most of the Stardock staff willing to sell blood to the blood bank to keep us from having them, we're not going to have pop up ads anytime soon even for non-subscribers. So we'll have to find other ways to encourage heavy users of the site to help defray the costs of the site.
We hope to have a beta of the skin browser ready in a week or two.
Reply #2 Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:25 PM
Reply #3 Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:52 PM
In our experience, anything over $20 becomes a major impediment to acceptance.
Reply #4 Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:29 PM

Reply #5 Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:46 PM
Reply #6 Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:02 PM
I'd be willing to pay the $20 and wouldn't have much of a problem with the $99.95...let's see @ $23 dollars a pint...
Will the beta be available through component manager?
Reply #7 Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:31 PM
Now, eventually, we hope to create a Stardock.net CM (like this summer) in which it looks at your account info and can say "Ah, this person has ODNT, WC, and Drengin, make all these things available to him." But that's still a ways off.
Reply #8 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:37 AM
Last time I did it they payed 5$ per visit and you were allowed to do it every 3 days.
20$ = 4 hours with a needle stuck in your arm. Maybe
100$ = 20 hours with a needle.... Not sure that would be worth it.
It was a way for a broke college kid to pay for dates.
Reply #9 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:37 AM

i want to see if we can make the Elf thread so long it causes the skin browser to crash with a buffer overrun

well, that is what beta testers are for isnt it?

sounds like you are thinking under $20. that is a year i presume?
oh yes, shame on you frogboy! in your screen shot of the skin browser it isnt skinned with WB!

Reply #10 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:44 AM
all australians or just you?

they just dont want to weaken you to much, if they offered to big an insentive who knows how often you would be in there. after all, think of what the spelling would be like here if you werent up to full strength?

actually that isnt a bad idea. can the discussion part of the skin browser throw the text at a spell checker? some of us will take all the help we can get

Reply #11 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:52 AM
feline **wow**
talk about saying something about the quality of the submisions by the artists! something must be drawing all these people!!!
Frogboy - Other goodies of a WC subscription will include exclusive skin packs, unlimited download rights, no banner ads, etc.
any ideas yet on who will be producing these skin packs?
are you going to make me drool all over my keyboard in anticipation, or just keep us all in deadful suspence for ages?

Reply #12 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:17 AM
Well, for the quality of this site $20 is more than acceptable. But for my wallet, $9.90 sounds more like it

Reply #13 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:02 PM
Reply #14 Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:20 PM
Oh yeah, the subscription idea sounds great

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Reply #16 Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:59 AM
What converted prices (from US dollars) would Australian users pay for Stardock software?
Reply #17 Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:06 AM
WB & OB (and others) -US$20= about $40 Australian Dollars
OD= US$49 = approx $100-130 Australian Dollars
Reply #18 Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:35 AM
http://www.oanda.com/convert/classic
Just make sure you change interbank to credit card.
Reply #19 Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:09 AM

Reply #20 Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:04 PM
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Reply #1 Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:15 PM