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starkers
Reply #21 Friday, June 22, 2012 8:09 PM

LightStar
What the OP article is saying that some new hardware in PC's developed for Windows 8 will not allow dual boot to older Microsoft OS's if I read it right. I just find it hard to accept that anyone should be allowed to do that.

Trouble is, when a company has become as big as Microsoft has, it almost becomes a law unto itself... and I think the reason MS has included its own, older OSes in that 'no dual boot' list is to prevent accusations and/or charges of stifling the competition, eg, Linux.

On a more positive note, or should I say a more hopeful one, given the adverse reaction to Metro for desktop PC's, I'm sure there are 3rd party developers who will come up with disabling software to make Win 8 more like Win 7 [without Aero]. When that happens I would consider purchasing it because there will be contingencies for the various items MS has stripped out of Win 8.  In some cases that won't even matter to me because some of the stripped items I would never have used anyway.

Oh well, we'll see!  In any event, Metro HAS to be able to be disabled, if not gone entirely... as in an option not to install it at setup.... not that I'll hold my breath on that one.

Alstein
Reply #22 Friday, June 22, 2012 8:57 PM

About the only way I'd consider Windows 8 in the future is if someone like say, Stardock , created a program that made Metro disappear.

 

I'm concerned that this might be such a disaster that the PC gaming market gets split as folks go to Macs or a new OS.  What would Stardock do in such a situation, given their past history?

 

 

starkers
Reply #23 Friday, June 22, 2012 10:22 PM

Alstein
I'm concerned that this might be such a disaster that the PC gaming market gets split as folks go to Macs or a new OS. What would Stardock do in such a situation, given their past history?

Oh I don't think Stardock will have too much to worry about, nor the gaming/skinning communities, for that matter.  Hardcore, skinners and customisers will always hang on to their earlier copies of Windows to participate in their fave pastimes... I know I will.

As for a software to disable Metro, well there's obviously a market for it, so somebody is bound to jump on the development of one.  Hehe, knowing Stardock, they're probably already working on such a thing... or so one would hope.

kryo
Reply #24 Friday, June 22, 2012 11:16 PM

VistArtXPosed
using 7's bootloader (on a non-UEFI machine)

Win7 runs just fine on UEFI boards.

Alstein
Reply #25 Saturday, June 23, 2012 1:40 AM

starkers

Quoting Alstein, reply 22I'm concerned that this might be such a disaster that the PC gaming market gets split as folks go to Macs or a new OS. What would Stardock do in such a situation, given their past history?

Oh I don't think Stardock will have too much to worry about, nor the gaming/skinning communities, for that matter.  Hardcore, skinners and customisers will always hang on to their earlier copies of Windows to participate in their fave pastimes... I know I will.

As for a software to disable Metro, well there's obviously a market for it, so somebody is bound to jump on the development of one.  Hehe, knowing Stardock, they're probably already working on such a thing... or so one would hope.

 

I'm worried MSFT will try to brick Windows 7 to force upgrades.  Dumbest thing they could do, but I've learned to never underestimate corporate stupidity.

 

StevenAus22
Reply #26 Saturday, June 23, 2012 3:06 AM

Alstein

Quoting starkers, reply 24
Quoting Alstein, reply 22I'm concerned that this might be such a disaster that the PC gaming market gets split as folks go to Macs or a new OS. What would Stardock do in such a situation, given their past history?

Oh I don't think Stardock will have too much to worry about, nor the gaming/skinning communities, for that matter.  Hardcore, skinners and customisers will always hang on to their earlier copies of Windows to participate in their fave pastimes... I know I will.

As for a software to disable Metro, well there's obviously a market for it, so somebody is bound to jump on the development of one.  Hehe, knowing Stardock, they're probably already working on such a thing... or so one would hope.



 

I'm worried MSFT will try to brick Windows 7 to force upgrades.  Dumbest thing they could do, but I've learned to never underestimate corporate stupidity.

 

If they do that, everyone will jump ship to Linux or Mac, instead of giving Microsoft another chance with the next Windows release after 8.  If they try to force an upgrade like that, MS will have committed corporate suicide.

starkers
Reply #27 Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:47 AM

StevenAus
If they try to force an upgrade like that, MS will have committed corporate suicide.

They've come close to that already.... forcing Metro on the desktop is one wrist slashed.... bricking Win 7 would be slicing its corporate jugular.

StevenAus22
Reply #28 Saturday, June 23, 2012 9:07 AM

Yes, I mean more than they have already.  Metro is one foot in the grave... wouldn't want to put the other foot there too soon.

Savyg
Reply #29 Sunday, June 24, 2012 6:14 PM

GFireflyE

If Win8 won't allow multiboot with winXP, I won't be getting Win8. Wow....that was surprisingly simple.

 

It will.  You simply disable the secure boot feature.  Assuming the vendor is following UEFI guidelines, it's that easy.  Having an option for the user to disable it will not take away MS certification.

While we're here. 

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-secure-boot-plans-for-ubuntu-linux-revealed

 

Uvah
Reply #30 Monday, June 25, 2012 9:56 AM

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