Msgboard Chatroom Marathon

Sunday, January 27, 2002 by Elfkura | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Honestly, I would go to IRC for this kind of stuff, but if any of you have been there recently, everyone seems to be...inactive. Sooooooooo, out of boredom, I'm turning a thread among this msgboard into a chat room, anyone care to join? =P.

It's Sunday night, and I'm bored out of my mind. There's much to do, but I'm too lazy to get around to do it. My boyfriend is busying trying to get Visual Studios to work so I can't talk to him on the phone....and we can't seem to talk over the phone anyways...it'll just be silence mostly.

New Semester started........so anyone alive out there to join Elffie in this chat marathon? =P

Let's try not to let this post hang for over 2 hours, hm? =P
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Fuzzy Logic
Reply #12741 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:16 PM

feline considers looking embarrassed, but dismisses this as a silly idea
feline seems to have run out of chocolate in this vat to eat!

Hmmm, does this mean the chocolate coating has 'worn' off? Fuzzy Logic applies the replacement canvas, leather strap and buckle coating...

There, don't you feel more comfortable now?

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #12742 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:21 PM

I should change my name... Elfkura is just not fitting anymore.

True, 'nurse' sounds a lot better... It just so happens there's a spare uniform...  

Elfkura
Reply #12743 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:02 PM
True, 'nurse' sounds a lot better... It just so happens there's a spare uniform...


I'll tell you one thing I do miss... things like that and the people here in this thread. I've had a feeling this thread would last... after all, it's feline and Fuzzy Logic we're talking about. They never end

School really shouldn't have been this hard to finish, or this much work. However, I brought all of this upon myself. I goofed off the first two years, so now I'm making up for it. But, it is good to know that when I try, I succeed.

I would look forward to graduation, but I fear the outside world. Unfortunately, that is just part of who I am. I'm a pisces, look it up

I'm ready to finish school though, get a job. People tell me school's so much easier. However, I've got a thing or two to say about that. I've held on to this rant for ages, and I'm waiting for the day I graduate to write a nice long letter to the advisors of this university exactly how much I had to go through and put up with to be where I am today.

"You can always make new friends" is a pretty crappy comeback and/or advice, IMO.
Elfkura
Reply #12744 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:05 PM
I do have a question though...

I see two referrals to this thread. What does that mean?
Weaksid
Reply #12745 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:32 PM
The referals is when a vistor comes from a external link to the thread, skin, etc.

I actually looked at this thread's referals:
1.totalgaming.net (9 Referral(s))
2. teen-pussy.cxa.de (3 Referral(s))

Interesting that there are 3 referals from a porn site.

"You can always make new friends" is a pretty crappy comeback and/or advice, IMO.


I agree. I've heard that most of the time you don't have time to make friends. You're too busy doing the sh*t load work to even meet people.

I have a quarter and a half left of school and I just want to quit now. I don't see the point in finishing it. I'm starting my own biz which I already have 3 clients on deck for the website development. But for $34,000 for 2years, I might as well finish it up. Well, good luck with yours

I think Elfkura could use a chocolate dip
Elfkura
Reply #12746 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:00 PM
Well, I tell advisors that one of the reasons why I did so badly first two years, and partially into my third year, was simply I couldn't cope with being here alone, no friends, no relatives, no family. Which is true. I also goofed off a bit because Wincustomize was more fun than math homework.

Every last one of them tells me "you can always make new friends."

That is just absolute crap. Until I was 20 years old, I've moved the same number of times as my age... that averages once a year. Most of it was spread out between ages 1-8, I only moved four times once I got to Malaysia. Making friends for 3-6 months didn't really sit well with me as a kid. Make friends? I want to reach over and slap those advisors across the face. And even if I did make friends... it solves only 1/3 of the equation. Can I make relatives and family too while I'm at it?

What a load of crap. And when I look at them in disbelief, they think I'm just not willing to work at it. One advisor told me "oh, but I moved here from another state too, and so I know how you feel."

If I didn't have anger management issues before I came to college..... I think I do now. Move across the state?!... I moved across the !@#%!#$ ocean for crying out loud. Where your home is a 3-6 hour flight.. mine's a 2 and a half days flight. I have to buy special phone cards to call home. I can't just pick up my cellphone and dial a number.

There are just some things people will say to me that makes me honestly want to hurt somebody.

It doesn't matter how far you move, none of it is easy. Coping with it will never be easy. Some people just have a better time with it than others. I never had my dad around when I was growing up. I'm not terribly close to my mom (not until recently... I make giant strides to actually get involved with my parents) but she's always been around. Try flying across the state line and not suffer a culture shock. Then try fly across the border and not suffer a culture shock. Now try it over the ocean. Then come back and tell me "you can always just make new friends."

I don't know if it's just because I'm just overly emotional or whatever else, but some things really just don't make sense to me. I'm pretty sure a couple more years down the line, this would be like breathing, there's nothing to it. But when you first take those first steps... God forbid you get the crap scared out of you.

Elfkura sighs

Well, shoot. I've done it again. Oh well, I'm ranted out till the month of June.

A chocolate dip would be wonderful. BTW, is karmagirl around? I've got some girl things I would like to chat about
Weaksid
Reply #12747 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:29 PM
Feel better since you ranted?
"Better out than in"

KG floats in and out. You could try her e-mail. Click on her name and it should be there if she made it public.
goodmorphing
Reply #12748 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:45 PM

I always have a hard time with naming things (good thing I don't have kids).  Names evolve... the things that happen around you, the things that make people callus and unhappy and headachy and sad.. they shouldn't determine what you choose to respond to.  Those things, though they may seem to endure on and on and on... they are really not the be all and end all of life.  keep ringing the bell you want to hear (elfkura) and let it guide your course.  It seems to have done well by you so far (painful though that may seem right now).

I really miss school, but not exactly for the classes (important as some of them might seem).  School is a collection of people, some of which you may relate to like no others.  It's easy access to ideas and cultures and thoughts and dreams of a squillion people.  And the classes, and the paperwork, and the admins.... they are like an obstacle course you have to run.

Having friends used to seem more important to me than now.  But I was always kind of a loner-type people.  I found out that I had to be a good friend to myself, and then I could relate to the people around me.  The true friends I have, the strongest relations that I have forged are spread pretty much throughout the world (many I have never met).  In fact, my natal family ended up spread throughout the country more distant emotionally than good friends continents away.  I think that if you carry someone in your heart the distance is nothing.  And the primary person you need to carry there is yourself (the world according to me.... and the terms 'you and yourself' are generic in nature -- feel free to toss the idea out if it doesn't fit).

Whoever told you *you can always make more friends* is probably someone who has been sheltered from real loss.  Because if you cherished someone and then that person  is gone, there is no recreating that one person.  People live on from that because there is no alternative.  People keep building their lives and letting new people into their hearts, and one day a new person will spark some passion.  That will never diminish the feeling for a missing friend, though.  It's very true.  You really can make more friends.  What you cannot do is replace them.

The friendships you make on the internet are real friendships.  They are as valid as the ones close up and in person.  Seems to me the feeling of "friendship" is largely a sensation and a reality conjured up within a person, not something that can be externally defined and regulated.  Therefore, don't feel so all alone if you only have someone from the virtual arena to touch bases with.  We are, all of us, real.

And good for you for keeping a bead on your goals.  For reaching out for the future you want.  If you can, relax some now and then and come and play if you want. 

goodmorphing steps down from the soap box...

I'm not trying to lecture, really. 

Elfkura
Reply #12749 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:50 PM
Oh yeah, much better. Although, I've never really felt all that bad since I've turned my focus to just my studies. For the most part, nothing pisses me off anymore outside of my life. I use to be so involved into controversial stuff, but now, after my hiatus, I don't really care about it anymore. Sometimes I'll start caring, and then I'll stop, back off, and ask myself what I'm doing. I'm a pisces. I run on emotion, and that's not too good last time I checked (hence my unforgivable outburst against Jafo and many others before I disappeared). I've learned a lot, and as you've probably noticed, I've not stepped out of the confines of this thread. I don't know what to expect of myself anymore.

I do credit my English degree for the dramatic change though. When you've read stuff, thought about it critically, and finally debate it out face-to-face with people in real life, you learn to take a step back from the online confrontations. It's the exact same thing. The only extra variable is the computer hardware. It has taught me a lot about just being a person. I don't have to shoulder the cares of the world. There are only certain things I need to care about. First off is my family. Second is my school work and my boyfriend. Third is myself. Fourth is the most general. Just be a good human being. People are going to disagree with you, that's a fact one just has to accept.

I used to think that my opinions mattered a lot. They don't. Actually, they mean close to nothing. The only reason why it meant something was because other people made a point for it to mean something. Without others, I'm nothing.

These last two to three years, I've learned something from my mom. One of her company workers didn't tell her that the Norton Antivirus software wasn't working. Instead, he went outside and bought a pirated version of an anti-virus software. At first I thought the same thing, it wasn't that big of a deal. Man, was I dead wrong.

It doesn't matter what I think or believe, laws are laws. Every company must conduct itself a certain way. Whatever happens in that company, one person was ultimately responsible, and that person is my mother. If the government cracked down on it, she goes to jail, not the person who bought the pirated software.

This brings me to think back to the days when I fought Jafo day in and day out about the belief he had about such a strict system. I realized one thing. I was in the wrong. It didn't matter what Jafo believed. It didn't matter what I believed. Only one thing matters, that Brad stays out of trouble because if anything goes wrong in Stardock or Wincustomze, Brad can ultimately be held responsible. There is no gray area there anymore. Laws are laws. And quite frankly, no one should challenge it just because he or she feels like it. If you or I don't take the fall, someone else will, and that person may be Brad.

After that lesson, I feel inadequate to be here. Jafo will probably never forgive me for what I've said. I don't blame him. I've got a feeling many people won't either, but that's in the past. Nothing I can do about that now. Only thing I can do is learn from my mistakes and never make them again.
goodmorphing
Reply #12750 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:04 PM

You are definitly not inadequate to be here. 

Ideas and emotions and happenstance are the ebb and the tide of life.  Stand sturdy, be yourself and things will be OK.  Everything is not frozen as it was that moment on that night.  Regrets, passions... personal growth all happened between then and now, for all of us.  That's what life is about.

Come.  Play, relate, relax.  You belong here as much as any of us.

Weaksid
Reply #12751 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:09 PM
I can do is learn from my mistakes and never make them again

That there is the main lesson in life, even though most don't know it.

The English and reading. I haven't read a book in a long time. This Comp II class online I have, I haven't really looked at this book. It's a huge book. The Title is "Dialogues: An Argument Reetoric and Reader". I do pass the quizes with 100%s. I'm just 3 weeks behind on my papers. There is one each week, plus you have to do discussions on the board about each other's papers. I think it's just a waste of time.

About that pirated software. You know, that's one of the biggest debates right now. Who is really responsible for what is on the computers? By what I've been reading, the IT people seem to be the ones that get the blame. This is even looking at a company that has 200+ employees and say one of those employees installs pirated software, music, video, etc on their work computer. The IT people still gets the blame. Right now, I'm not sure what the sentence is for priated software. I know they were planning on making Video 3years minimal. I would of thought that she could of pleaded stupidity and turned in the seller. They more target after the seller instead of the buyer. I just know the rules and sentences keep changing. But for the worse. If it keeps going, you could kill serveral people and still get a less sentense than piratcy.

O' and to add I'm a Aries.

GM, said alot of good stuff above.
Weaksid
Reply #12752 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:11 PM
Come. Play, relate, relax. You belong here as much as any of us.


You should add "spank, be spanked" to the list
Elfkura
Reply #12753 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:20 PM
A lot of things are on debate. My solution is to live life the way I see fit. Many people I know agree with what I have to say, many don't. Experiences will alter all logic and reasoning. For the most part, I think I'm an okay person. Weird grades, weird personality, in heavy denial, but an okay person

Many have told me that I'm still welcomed here. I don't doubt it in the least. However, I'm relatively harsh on myself. I can't forgive myself easily. I've never been able to do that, and some people find that an enigma actually. I've always been taught to do unto others as I would have others do unto me. Well, when I fall off that wagon, it takes me a lot of time to get back on.

I think I've finally started to put a dent in that guilt I've felt. I'm just glad that people like me are rare. I don't know how the world would deal with too many elfkuras running around

I've learn to accept that some people are not made to befriend many. I'm not exactly evil (although my boyfriend will beg to differ on that) but I'm not very sociable. I enjoy solitude. If I'm not with Rob, I'm by myself. I'm perfectly happy that way. I find no reason to alter it. Sometimes I get lonely when he works long hours. Friends aren't going to make up for that closeness, if it does, they're not friends anymore.

On a brighter note, my boyfriend bought me a golf set last week as a gift. I went golfing for the first time this weekend. And for any past comments about golf being stupid, I take it all back. Smashing that golf ball as hard as you can gets that stress out like nothing else. I'm a bit sore, but it was fun. It's definitely not easy, trying to hit the ball with the club.

If anyone has a chance, there is an international treasure hunt called geocaching. It is awesome. Go check it out online and join in. It's great fun, not strenous, and relatively rewarding knowing that there are millions out there doing the same thing you are

This messageboard needs a spell checker.
Elfkura
Reply #12754 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:21 PM
I just realized... this thread is over 3 years old. Dang.
Weaksid
Reply #12755 Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:42 AM
The solitude thing: Sounds like me, but I do have my moments when I do get out. Sometimes I can spend days in the house or even my room with moments coming out of my room to go downstairs or other things.

Golf: Did it, wasn't too thrilling, but had fun with my friends.

This messageboard needs a spell checker.

Yep, but they are working out other bugs first. If you are using IE, you can use IESpell. Firefox, I haven't gotten the spellchecker add-in to work.

I just realized... this thread is over 3 years old. Dang.

Yep, but it almost got lost in the transfer between the old and new site. There was like a month where the tread never really worked. One person could get in here and there but most of the time, you got a timeout.
goodmorphing
Reply #12756 Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:43 AM

 I was only going to add one more thing... Jafo is about the most fair and understanding people I have met in my life.  I have learned a thing or two from watching him deal with people.  He teaches them by giving them chances and not turning his back.

Don't sell him short.  If you have things you feel you need to say then he would be the one to talk to.  An apology goes a long way towards mending hurt feelings.  On both sides.

 Yep, you did a good thing when you made this thread. 

Elfkura
Reply #12757 Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:47 AM
I've had my experience with Jafo. I agree, he is fair. However, I think there's one thing I've learned from him. He doesn't really care much about spoken apologies, anybody can say it. He wants to see it for himself. That's just his way, and his way works.
goodmorphing
Reply #12758 Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:55 AM
Yeah... true.  But you have to be around and visible for anyone to see anything.  So you see, it's a good thing to come here some more.  No one probably cares much about a spoken apology if that is all it is.  But speak it then follow it up by action and then it means something.  It is significant then.
Elfkura
Reply #12759 Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:57 AM
I would be around more, but like I told Brad, my first duty is to my studies, and right now, I'm enjoying my A's. I want to keep earning them. With 17 hours on the book next semester, I don't think I'll have much boyfriend time, let alone messageboard time
goodmorphing
Reply #12760 Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:03 AM

hehe... yeah.  Well as long as you know that you are welcome here, that's the important thing.  That you do have friends here.  No need to guilt yourself away anymore.

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