Why was News item deleted?
Thursday, October 18, 2001 by Tarkus | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I posted a news item earlier today about a product that hopes to compete with WindowBlinds on Windows XP, assuming they can get permission from Microsoft to create their own msstyles.
The gist of the topic was to ask what it means to WB and WB users.
Unfortunately, it's been deleted.
Most of the people who had a chance to reply agreed that WB doesn't have anything to worry about, because it's a more well rounded program, and is faster than msstyles anyway.
So what is Stardock afraid of? It seems to me that would have made a great opportunity to point out the advantages of WB over msstyles (as several people had already done).
Instead, they apparently took the coward's way out.
I'm very disappointed.
The gist of the topic was to ask what it means to WB and WB users.
Unfortunately, it's been deleted.
Most of the people who had a chance to reply agreed that WB doesn't have anything to worry about, because it's a more well rounded program, and is faster than msstyles anyway.
So what is Stardock afraid of? It seems to me that would have made a great opportunity to point out the advantages of WB over msstyles (as several people had already done).
Instead, they apparently took the coward's way out.
I'm very disappointed.
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CygnusXII
Reply #22 Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:05 PM
Reply #22 Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:05 PM
"Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. "
Borrowed Generously from Legal Information Institute.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/topics/first_amendment.html
"The most basic component of freedom of expression is the right of freedom of speech. The right to freedom of speech allows individuals to express themselves without interference or constraint by the government. The Supreme Court requires the government to provide substantial justification for the interference with the right of free speech where it attempts to regulate the content of the speech. A less stringent test is applied for content-neutral legislation. The Supreme Court has also recognized that the government may prohibit some speech that may cause a breach of the peace or cause violence. The right to free speech includes other mediums of expression that communicates a message.
Despite popular misunderstanding the right to freedom of the press guaranteed by the first amendment is not very different from the right to freedom of speech. It allows an individual to express themselves through publication and dissemination. It is part of the constitutional protection of freedom of expression. It does not afford members of the media any special rights or privileges not afforded to citizens in general."
I guess that seems to cover it.
Now it all seems to come down to the fact that this is a privately supported site, and will reflect the wishes, of the owners. That's it in a NutShell. We can either like it or not.
The right to free speech, does not gaurentee, that people have to listen.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. "
Borrowed Generously from Legal Information Institute.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/topics/first_amendment.html
"The most basic component of freedom of expression is the right of freedom of speech. The right to freedom of speech allows individuals to express themselves without interference or constraint by the government. The Supreme Court requires the government to provide substantial justification for the interference with the right of free speech where it attempts to regulate the content of the speech. A less stringent test is applied for content-neutral legislation. The Supreme Court has also recognized that the government may prohibit some speech that may cause a breach of the peace or cause violence. The right to free speech includes other mediums of expression that communicates a message.
Despite popular misunderstanding the right to freedom of the press guaranteed by the first amendment is not very different from the right to freedom of speech. It allows an individual to express themselves through publication and dissemination. It is part of the constitutional protection of freedom of expression. It does not afford members of the media any special rights or privileges not afforded to citizens in general."
I guess that seems to cover it.
Now it all seems to come down to the fact that this is a privately supported site, and will reflect the wishes, of the owners. That's it in a NutShell. We can either like it or not.
The right to free speech, does not gaurentee, that people have to listen.
paxx
Reply #24 Saturday, October 20, 2001 11:11 PM
Reply #24 Saturday, October 20, 2001 11:11 PM
Yeah, well the Amendment are only valid in the US of A. Freedom is interpreted somewhat differently from one country to the other.
In Canada, it's very vague, and that's why the judges in Supreme Court have a pretty safe job.
Part I of our Constitution Act, commonly refered to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Liberties start like this:
Rights and freedoms in Canada
1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
Fundamental freedoms
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(
freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.
And the different liberties garanteed in the constitution go on into 34 points... But the bit about freedom of speech is what you see above, in item ( of the second point... but is restricted by the point 1. No wonder constitutional judges and lawyers are paid millions.
In Canada, it's very vague, and that's why the judges in Supreme Court have a pretty safe job.
Part I of our Constitution Act, commonly refered to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Liberties start like this:
Rights and freedoms in Canada
1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
Fundamental freedoms
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(
freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; (c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.
And the different liberties garanteed in the constitution go on into 34 points... But the bit about freedom of speech is what you see above, in item (
of the second point... but is restricted by the point 1. No wonder constitutional judges and lawyers are paid millions.
Istari
Reply #25 Saturday, October 20, 2001 11:50 PM
Reply #25 Saturday, October 20, 2001 11:50 PM
Isn't WinCustomize located in Afganastan? In fact, I hear something now outside...is it a plane...hold on.
Istari goes outside to check
Hmm.
There seems to be a light coming.
Closer..
Closer..
BAM!
Istari goes outside to check
Hmm.
There seems to be a light coming.
Closer..
Closer..
BAM!
paxx
Reply #26 Sunday, October 21, 2001 12:03 AM
Reply #26 Sunday, October 21, 2001 12:03 AM
Tandis, I'm sorry, but that wasn't funny, and I don't know what your point was anyway...
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Reply #21 Saturday, October 20, 2001 12:56 PM
Patching uxtheme.dll is akin to downloading a crack to take out the copy protection of a commercial game. It's hard to see how MS would be okay with that. If they are, I can't help but wonder how many hours we could have saved over the years by simply patchign and replacing Windows system DLLs. Imagine how easy WindowBlinds would have been to write if we simply replaced the Windows system DLLs with ours.