I am an a**hole (apparently)

Wednesday, September 28, 2011 by Nimbin | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

So this is the story. I had a few friends over the other night and were discussing various subjects and the subject of pride arose. I mentioned a story i had read somewhere (can't remember where) about a group of people who wanted to create and host a straight pride mardi gras. Well my so called friends were horrified. "oh how homophobic" were the comments i heard. So i piped up and said " so how come it's ok to be Gay and proud, Black and proud and muslim and proud" (i only use these as an example because these groups seem to be the main topic of tolerance and pride these days. I am a straight guy and i am proud, i am a white guy and i am proud and i am a catholic and proud. So according to these friends i am a homophobic, racist religious intolerant. Now i don't give a damn if your gay....big deal, i don't give a damn if your black.... big deal and i don't give a damn what religion you are...big deal, but i am the asshole because i happen to be proud of who i am... oh but no... i should be ashamed of being straight, white and catholic. i am so sick and tired of this double standard hypocracy that is infecting our society these days, mainly caused by a minority of hairy armpitted do gooders who unfortunately seem to make the most noise. The way i see it is.... screw political correctness, be proud of who you are and don't let anyone tell you that you should be ashamed to be who you are. are we not all human beings after all... since when does sexuality, colour and religious belief determine who you are. People seem so afraid of offending others that they are willing to sacrifice their own beliefs and opinions because they might be accused of hate or intolerance. The last time i looked tolerance is defined as respecting the beliefs and decisions of others. it's doesn't mean you have to accept it or believe in it, but it does mean you have no right to vilify someone else who believes different than you do, thats tolerance. The word has been so twisted by political correctness bullshit. Well thats my rant

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JcRabbit
Reply #81 Thursday, October 6, 2011 3:44 AM

well, I know that, just wasn't aware in this instance.

Now you know why political correctness is not exactly one my strongest points, eheh.

starkers
Reply #82 Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:28 PM

Architecture was one field for 'early adopters' of digital cameras..

... and rumour also has it that architecture was an early adopter of bricks and mortar as a construction medium.

Anyhow, all this talk of architecture, political correctness and sexual orientation has distracted us from the original point of this thread....

.... that Nimbin is an asshole (apparently)

Nimb's, me old mate, ow's it goin'? 

Jafo
Reply #83 Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:41 PM

 

Hi-tech ain't what it used to be.

0.3 Megapixel [VGA] .....took its time writing the image to the floppy.

I still have it.....may be a collector's item one day.... or a door stop ....

starkers
Reply #84 Friday, October 7, 2011 5:49 AM

Hi-tech ain't what it used to be.

I'll say.... still looking for a decent left-handed hammer to replace the one I lost overboard when attempting running repairs to the ark.

No, not Noah's, the one we quickly threw together when it was flooding up here in '74.

0.3 Megapixel [VGA] .....took its time writing the image to the floppy.

I kinda have a Flintstones image going on here.... of a prehistoric bird transcribing the pic to a stone tablet with its beak.

I still have it.....may be a collector's item one day.... or a door stop ..

You never know, with numbers naturally dwindling over the years, it may end up becoming a museum piece in its antiquity.

Iben
Reply #85 Saturday, October 8, 2011 1:50 AM

 

I knew at a young age that I was a nice guy
but I had to conform to society. 

starkers
Reply #86 Saturday, October 8, 2011 5:12 AM

Well I was born at an early age....

..... and was largely shaped by society

..... until I developed my own unique personality.

Since then I have dared not to conform...

.... and some say I'm an asshole (apparently)

..... not that I care

... because It's only half true.

Jafo
Reply #87 Saturday, October 8, 2011 8:05 AM

starkers
Well I was born at an early age....

Me too....

starkers
Reply #88 Saturday, October 8, 2011 2:45 PM


Quoting starkers, reply 86Well I was born at an early age....

Me too....

Ah, but were you a dirty old man at a very young age?

Apparently I was.

According to my mother, she couldn't take me anywhere there were young women.  She said that even before I was a toddler I had a fascination with their cleavage and liked to fondle.

Hmmm, it seems political correctness wasn't my strongest suit even back then.

JcRabbit
Reply #89 Saturday, October 8, 2011 2:51 PM

starkers
Hmmm, it seems political correctness wasn't my strongest suit even back then.

High five!

starkers
Reply #90 Sunday, October 9, 2011 3:11 AM

JcRabbit
High five!

No doubt you'll be in PC trouble with somebody for that.  High fiving a politically incorrect person is as bad as being politically incorrect, I believe.

The thing that pisses me off so much about political correctness, apart from the fact it was brought into being by wooses, wingers, big girls blouses and total pussies, is that minority groups and politically correct advocates always seem to have a legitimate argument with officialdom, yet we of majority groups, and those who are not politically correct, are just whining when minority groups call us assholes.

Still, I'd rather be an asshole than afraid to open my mouth for fear of upsetting some nutless PC dweeb.  Frankly, I don't give a flying toss who I upset with my mother and father references.  They're who I grew up with... not to mention that I was/am one half of that equation to my kids.  In fact, if my kids ever referred to me as Parent 1 or Parent 2, I'd totally ignore them until I got the proper respect.  Moreso when they want something: "Hey da-a-ad..."

And another thing!  If my gay friends have no objection to me referring to them as poofs or lezzos, I'm not going to change just to suit some PC pundit with an axe to grind.  One of my gay friends often refers to himself as a "raging old poof".. and a lesbian friend frequently calls herself and partner lezzos, dykes. muff divers, so if they're not offended I don't see why these gonad challenged PC dipsticks need to get their knickers in a knot over it.

I grew up calling a spade a spade, and I'm not gonna start calling it a garden manicure utility because some limp wristed PC pansy uses one to trim the edges of his lawn. I'm not going to stop telling my grandkids nursery rhymes and fairy tales that have been perfectly acceptable for hundreds of years, either.   So if I want to tell them about Old Mother Hubbard, Simple Simon and Little Jack Horner, I'm going to.  Who cares if the PC pansies think Jack Horner should have gotten a smack for not using a spoon... with all the finger food going on these days, it just doesn't matter if he stuck in his thumb and pulled out a plum, does it.

For mine, when there's so much greed and corruption in the world, violence, physical abuse and war, I see this petty importance placed on words as an unnecessary distraction that detracts from real issues.  I'd rather see their efforts going toward making our world a safer place to live... a more equitable place to live, where starvation and poverty is a thing of the past.

 

ansury
Reply #91 Sunday, October 9, 2011 3:22 AM

k10w3
I always had issues with the pride stuff, mainly because they're for things a person doesn't CHOOSE to be.  How can I be proud of being a straight white woman when I did nothing to ensure that's what I was?!  I was BORN that way, and being BORN that way is the very reason we shouldn't judge people for their ethnicity or sexual preference.  I am proud of the things I've accomplished, but not of who I am--I'm not ashamed of who I am, but I didn't move mountains to turn out to be what was there from the start in my genetic makeup.

Now a straight proud Mardi Gras, I'm imaging, would just be boring and ugly...I'm pretty sure it would be like going to Wal-Mart on Saturday.

I think you just "won" Mardi Gras with this post.    +1

JcRabbit
Reply #92 Sunday, October 9, 2011 5:24 AM

starkers
The thing that pisses me off so much about political correctness, apart from the fact it was brought into being by wooses, wingers, big girls blouses and total pussies, is that minority groups and politically correct advocates always seem to have a legitimate argument with officialdom, yet we of majority groups, and those who are not politically correct, are just whining when minority groups call us assholes.

Respect and tolerance is a two way street or a double standard is created. If a group of people demand respect/tolerance from others, then they should respect/tolerate the others back. If they don't, something is very wrong.

In a world dominated by political correctness, we would all feel like we're walking on egg shells, constantly afraid to blurt something out that *might* offend or set off one of the thousand of different minority groups that exist. Constantly navigating through a mine field, which is extremely unhealthy. It is also a double standard, because, as you pointed out so well, the minorities in question will have no such problems in calling us assholes, or whatever they deem appropriate, to 'put us in our place'.

So to all the PC guys: grow up and get a spine!

2of3
Reply #93 Sunday, October 9, 2011 5:41 AM

That's one of many things I loved about George Carlin! He didn't give a shit about PC.

 

To quote him:

"It's all bullshit.........and it's bad for ya"

starkers
Reply #94 Sunday, October 9, 2011 12:57 PM

JcRabbit
So to all the PC guys: grow up and get a spine!

Hehe, nothing like being brutal and to the point, is there!

And sometimes, when being polite fails, saying the one thing they [whoever it is] least wants to hear is the key to attaining peace and quiet.

Yeah, some work mates and I were at a work Christmas break up party when this group of women [real feminist types, too] accosted us over somebody cling-wrapping all the toilets in the ladies room, and several of them getting wet behinds.  Despite our protests of innocence [and we didn't do it] we got and expletive laden diatribe of how we were low-life males with just one thing on our minds, blah, blah, blah.  Well after a few minutes of copping this ear bashing, I'd heard enough and interrupted with: "Yes, we are low-life chauvinist pigs with only one thing on our minds and... how about you bitches show us your tits?"

I got the desired result, though!  Yup, they stormed off in a huff and left us in peace to enjoy the rest of the party.  No, it wasn't the ideal thing to say, but at the time it seemed the better option to a feminist lecture that would have led to an argument that would have turned ugly after they'd indulged in a few more free rums.

Iben
Reply #95 Sunday, October 9, 2011 5:24 PM

The List:
Virus
Shark
T-Rex
Hitler
It is up to God to change the list
unless humans are the god they are looking for.

starkers
Reply #96 Monday, October 10, 2011 2:08 AM

The List:
Virus
Shark
T-Rex
Hitler
It is up to God to change the list
unless humans are the god they are looking for.

I'm no god, but I want to add to that list....

Julia Gillard {Oz PM]... because politically, she's so incorrect.

Now some will call me an asshole for saying that - and others, a misogynist - but I have broad shoulders and will survive.

LittleBearJason
Reply #97 Wednesday, November 2, 2011 2:13 PM

I'm gay myself (happy and proud bear) and you all are entitled to your own opinions. That's all I have to say on this subject

DevenDmer
Reply #98 Wednesday, November 2, 2011 11:24 PM

Lemme break down my thoughts on a few things I've read in this thread. 

The old name-calling game: If your personal friends don't mind you calling them a poofter or a dyke, then it is acceptable in their company to do so. Nobody is offended. If, however, you walk up to a stranger and do the same thing, you better be prepared for a backlash that is well deserved. It is not the words/names used, it is the intent behind the words that are the problem. 

The pride factor: It has nothing to do with whining or wanting to be seen as better than others.  It has to do with feeling EQUAL to others. Those individuals who have never been oppressed don't need to display pride in the same way an oppressed person does because they have not lived a life where they are seen as (and classified as) second class citizens at the least, and damned to burn in hell for eternity at the worst. 

How is being upset about being called an asshole any less whining than being upset about being called a faggot? I can't help being a faggot. I can, however, refrain from being an asshole.

 

Chasbo
Reply #99 Thursday, November 3, 2011 1:03 AM

DevenDmer
How is being upset about being called an asshole any less whining than being upset about being called a faggot? I can't help being a faggot. I can, however, refrain from being an asshole.

Well said and to all of you who are so proud of being intolerant I would like to see you walk a mile in a minorities shoes. 

As usual this whole thing just breaks down into cheap jokes.

starkers
Reply #100 Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:07 AM

DevenDmer
How is being upset about being called an asshole any less whining than being upset about being called a faggot? I can't help being a faggot. I can, however, refrain from being an asshole.

I guess what it comes down to is what should be acceptable language, that which is politically correct, and what's way over the top.  For me, being called an asshole is not offensive, because many people I know use it as term of endearment, not as an insult, and thus I have become immune to its further, possible inclinations/connotations. 

I do have gay friends and acquaintances! To those gay friends who refer to themselves as queer, dyke, faggot, etc, I will use the same as a term of endearment, to acknowledge their presence, but only if they have no issue with it.  However, I will not use those terms with mere acquaintance whom I hardly know.  If I have no knowledge of their personal acceptance, level of tolerance, then I call them by name and treat them as I would hope they'd treat me... respectfully.

No, what my objection is, is toward these politically correct do-gooders who champion politically correct causes and nine times out of ten they're not even gay or from this or that minority group.  These are the people who piss me off, because all too often they create negative and unwanted attention to people who can not only champion their own causes more than adequately when needed, but who'd rather be left alone to manage their own lives. 

So no, when I speak out against the politically correct assholes who take things too far, I do not refer to gay or minority groups.  No, these people have way too much pride and dignity to be thumping their chests about it or banging on politicians doors trying to outlaw certain terms that may [or may not] be considered offensive... and then only to some. For the most part, I've found the most vocal advocates of political correctness to be 'career activists'... if there's a protest or bandwagon to jump on, they'll be on it... not because it's personal or they believe, but because it's another outlet where they can bang drums and bump their gums.  These are the people I dislike, because they make mountains out of molehills purely for recognition... and worst of all... without any sincerity in their actions, or truth.

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