Hope and Change!
Someone had to say it.
Wednesday, September 28, 2011 by vStyler | Discussion: Community
How's it workin for ya 3 years later?
Anyone better off?... that's a good one !
here's the good news.. Nov. 2012 isn't so far off... and I for one will look back on the 4 lost years of my life, and realize..
....I can finally breath again.
So... lastly, I am willing to go out on a limb, and a year ahead, predict..
, no, guarantee... a massive conservative victory...
......If I'm wrong... I'm sure a few of you will be back to remind me I posted this.
The Free Market will reign again.
Hope and change.. is.. coming.
Reply #142 Saturday, October 1, 2011 10:52 PM
I meant Herman Cain, also from GA, like the chopstick guy
Reply #143 Saturday, October 1, 2011 11:26 PM
Quoting DrJBHL, reply 135And he didn't graduate Summa Cum Laude from Harvard Law either. Yeah... real stupid
Ok Doc, I'll bite. WTF are you saying here...
What I'm saying, Phoon is you should damn well respect his intelligence and position in life, and not make him out to be an idiot.
You think you're somehow 'better' or smarter than he is? Show me the proof.
Teleprompter? Yeah. You think he has the time to sit around memorizing speeches? Really.
You think he doesn't work hard? He hasn't aged in the two plus years he's been in office? Look at his hair. He started the job a young, vital man. Compare pictures of him.
Reply #144 Saturday, October 1, 2011 11:58 PM
Some leaders dont need to memorize, they speak from the heart, they speak from a burning fire within, I really can't remember seeing any other leader read from teleprompters the way Obama does, it's almost offensive to me.
He looks like an umpire at a tennis match.
As cynical as I am all I can see is his little army of speechwriters working away into the night to ready the propaganda for the next days speech.
I know everyone has speechwriters, but not every pres. reads almost every word, from a screen.
U rarely see him not using it, and when you do, he turns into a stuttering mess. for all the talk of him being a supreme orator..
I just don't see it.
Marco Rubio, is a good speaker, Herman Cain.. he eats Obama for lunch on the platform.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDkacOveF0
No Prompter.
No lack of passion.
lastly, I'd give my right arm to watch Obama debate Newt Gingrich. ![]()
Reply #145 Sunday, October 2, 2011 12:17 AM
John! I never realized. You're a romantic. ![]()
Bravo!
Reply #147 Sunday, October 2, 2011 2:50 AM
Is hilarious that I still hear folks blaming unions for the demise of the American work force, not the actual greed. Corporate as well as Public.
I must reflect upon this and wonder, has one corporation that went with Cheap labor over seas laying off their union work force, passed a single bit of those reduced costs to their customers, or did they pocket the extra profits? I don't remember seeing American car prices drop drastically or on any other outsourced product for that matter. So who really benefited from the cheaper labor??
But wait...It' must be the unions fault America fell in love with cheap foreign products manufactured in countries who exploit cheap / almost slave labor and drove the more expensive American made products market down the crapper. The only thing they did was give corporate America an excuse to delve in to outsourced cheap labor.
So let me get this straight, that because the Backbone of america actually wanted to live the American dream and get a fair piece of the pie, have safe working conditions, be able to retire and not be homeless, they are to blame? seriously? ..
We have no one to blame .. cept ourselves
But hey lets lay off more american workers, out source everything, eventually no one will have any money to buy jack shit, as soon the whole country will be unemployed. Not sure what moron really thought this was a great idea..
But yes America it's always someone else's fault..
As for my story I'm just one of those lowly Road/construction workers who is currently building a bridge so I can "jump off it"...
Reply #148 Sunday, October 2, 2011 7:12 AM
v....there is NO question Barry has been a HUGE disappointment....{many a broken heart since `o8}brilliant as he is, he would be better suited to the clubby confines of Harvard Yard with his personality & skill set, NOT the gruesome political arena that requires gutz of steel & a certain cagey finesse. That being said, the konservativista platform & Presidential offerings are pretty bleak as well: it`s not for nuthin`that Warren Buffett considers the current GOP lineup PATHETIC & now the desperate call for the Governor of New Jersey to step up = mind you with Ron Paul receiving the 'coveted' Barry Manilow endorsement of hiz Ayn Rand political moonscape, one needs only review the lowlights of his polices; consider:that stuff about Paul wanting to eliminate minimum wage…brilliant strategy to get people working and rejoice over those newly available $1.72/hour jobs....after all, workers in India and Bangladesh get paid a quarter of that and they’re happy.
Same with eliminating the FDA and getting the government out of the business of regulating drugs. Much better idea to hand over that responsibility to the drug companies. Makes perfect sense because you know that big pharma’s only concern is your welfare. Just ask the health insurers. They’ll tell you that no one guards a hen house better than a skulk of foxes.
The Federal Aviation Administration? Worthless, money-gobbling bureaucracy. Paul understands that air safety and your life is best managed by an altruistic private sector.
U.S Department of Education? Gone.
U.S. Department of Energy? Gone.
U.S. Department of Commerce? Gone.
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services? Gone.
U.S. Department of Homeland Security? Gone.
Federal Emergency Management Agency? Gone.
Internal Revenue Service? Gone.
In Ron Paul’s finely tuned analysis, all of the above are “unnecessary bureaucracies” and Barry Manilow agrees. That’s all anyone needs to know.
Here’s the bottom line: when a presidential candidate has the support of a man who not only writes music but is Music, for crying out loud…and writes the songs that make the whole world sing, as well as songs of love and special things, to say nothing of songs which make young girls cry, what more do they need?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Reply #149 Sunday, October 2, 2011 7:33 AM
I must reflect upon this and wonder, has one corporation that went with Cheap labor over seas laying off their union work force, passed a single bit of those reduced costs to their customers, or did they pocket the extra profits? I don't remember seeing American car prices drop drastically or on any other outsourced product for that matter. So who really benefited from the cheaper labor??
But wait...It' must be the unions fault America fell in love with cheap foreign products manufactured in countries who exploit cheap / almost slave labor and drove the more expensive American made products market down the crapper. The only thing they did was give corporate America an excuse to delve in to outsourced cheap labor.
So let me get this straight, that because the Backbone of america actually wanted to live the American dream and get a fair piece of the pie, have safe working conditions, be able to retire and not be homeless, they are to blame? seriously? ..
We have no one to blame .. cept ourselves
But hey lets lay off more american workers, out source everything, eventually no one will have any money to buy jack shit, as soon the whole country will be unemployed. Not sure what moron really thought this was a great idea..
But yes America it's always someone else's fault..
As for my story I'm just one of those lowly Road/construction workers who is currently building a bridge so I can "jump off it"...
A MAJOR slice of my pizza goes to HG. You won't have to hijack it ever again, bud.
Indeed, for so many reasons, we have no one and everyone (especially ourselves) to blame. Houses, hard drives, whatever we consistently, persistently and constantly look for the "bargain". Costs far more than it ever saved.
We need manufacturing and export here in America because that will be the only way out of this mess.
Reply #150 Sunday, October 2, 2011 7:50 AM
he's a preacher, what do you expect. for me at least, the choice between public speaking and sharp stick in the eye has always been a tough choice.
one might also consider that the lose of job/income has driven people to purchase cheaper products in order to make ends meet. Walmat single handed killed the American textile market, now those people are out of work and if they need socks, guess where they are manufacturered.
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cause and effect, cause and effect.
Reply #151 Sunday, October 2, 2011 8:11 AM
Thanks for opening my eyes somewhat to that HG, Honestly, had never looked at it that way.
Reply #152 Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:21 AM
Exactly, America bargain shopped itself right out of work, and in to our current state of economy.
Definitely, It is a vicious circle I have seen coming since the 80's when I watched America first fall in love with Cheap imports. I knew that with the mass amount of cash flowing out of America compared to the pittance coming back in from exports we were headed down a slippery slope.
Economics 101, if your cash out flow is larger than your intake, soon you will be bankrupt.. As it would seem, America is right were I figured it would be,,.
IMO To save the economy we either need to restrict imports by either re-adding them to the tariff list or by raising tariffs, "Presently only about 30% of all import goods are subject to tariffs in the United States, the rest are on the free list, and The "average" tariffs now charged by the United States are at a historic low."
Or by aggressively Exporting our goods. Most likely a combination of both is needed.
The guy in Georgia is on the right track. America needs to follow this guys example and instead of waiting/bitching for someone else to fix our economy, We all need to roll up our sleeves and dig our own way out.
Reply #153 Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:57 AM
You think you're somehow 'better' or smarter than he is? Show me the proof.
Doc, there is absolutely nothing that I respect about this man, nor any person that lies or pretends to be something they are not. Most all politicians are like that and he is no exception to that observation.
Nobody said a damn thing about thinking they are "better" than someone but you seem to want to turn this in to a personal attack on me for stating my opinion.
Have your fun, I really couldn't care less.
Reply #155 Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:45 AM
The loss of respect for this country around this world, is at an all time low.
along with just about everything else, being at an all time low.
For goodness sake, it's time to start turning things around.
Reply #156 Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:48 AM
Phoon, are you saying that he is only pretending to be the President? C'mon, he deserves some respect for taking on probably the most difficult job there is. I couldn't do it, do you think you could?
Reply #157 Sunday, October 2, 2011 11:53 AM
No, I wouldn't want the job at all. I am saying that he is not what quite a large number of people seem to think he is.
For instance:
Jerimiah Wright. You don't go to a church for 20+ years and all of the sudden deny having heard anything like what Mr Wright spouts. He heard, and continued to go to Mr Wright's rants. The only reason he separated himself from him is because it became public. It tells alot about his character.
I also happen to know someone that worked at a university in Chicago for many years and has the displeasure of meeting the Mrs O on a few occasions. I have been told that Mrs O is also quite the opposite of her now "First Lady" image that she portrays and is in fact one of the most racist individuals you would ever meet. I trust the source I heard this from explicitly and have no reason at all to doubt the validity of the statement.
IMO, he deserves nothing as he has given us nothing more than a false image.
Reply #158 Sunday, October 2, 2011 12:09 PM
Couldn't agree more. I feel as though the entire presidency has been one big lie from the get go.
I want him, and the rest of the Chicago strong arm mob.. gone... asap.
Reply #159 Sunday, October 2, 2011 12:10 PM
I'm sure you could do it better, Phoon.
You might not agree with his actions (despite not being fully informed) nor like him personally (though I doubt you've met him or talked with him), but you should not disrespect him based on biased media crap. In fact, you doubt the media with respect to everything else, so how come not with respect to the crap they put out to sell tv time when it comes to him and his wife?
I don't maintain he's perfect. But I don't drink that Kool Aid, either.
What "Lies from the beginning", John?
Reply #160 Sunday, October 2, 2011 12:12 PM
Biased how? I find it amazing that solid facts, PLAIN VIEW stuff, is somehow the story telling of a biased media..
If you want to talk about biased media.. try NBC, MSNBC, Hardball, Huffington Post, etc etc... all in the tank, since day one.
Fox, is THE most trusted and respected, and honest media outlet.. period.. dont make me break out some stats.
well, for one the BS about 'coming together' as a nation... Obama is the most divisive president in history.. IMO, IMO... Hope and change, 'coming together' was nothing but a temporary mantra, to get elected.. then, day one, He started in with socialist agenda, the redistribution of wealth.. agenda... the divisiveness.
Where the hell is the hope now? Where is the (positive) change?
In my OP, i asked for Hope stories, success stories, I asked who is better off... I don't see people lining up in droves to tell their stories, of Obama success.
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Reply #141 Saturday, October 1, 2011 9:57 PM