Hope and Change!

Someone had to say it.

Wednesday, September 28, 2011 by vStyler | Discussion: Community

 

   How's it workin for ya 3 years later?

   Anyone better off?... that's a good one !

 

  here's the good news.. Nov. 2012 isn't so far off... and I for one will look back on the 4 lost years of my life, and realize..

 

  ....I can finally breath again.

 

  So... lastly, I am willing to go out on a limb, and a year ahead, predict.. , no, guarantee... a massive conservative victory...

  ......If I'm wrong... I'm sure a few of you will be back to remind me I posted this.

 

  The Free Market will reign again.

 

                                                                                      Hope and change.. is.. coming.

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DaveBax
Reply #21 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:58 PM

They F with my SS and I will vote for you V as long as you won't mess with it.I need it to live.

Lantec
Reply #22 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:58 PM

The Country is worse off than at ANY time in our past except for the Civil War and the Great Depression. Anyone who believes otherwise is smoking too much hope.

vStyler
Reply #23 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:59 PM

do you have some statistics showing these numbers at the end of the Clinton and Bush era administrations.

yes but they aren't relevant, to me. I was flourishing then... Now, I am not. and again, news flash, Bush, nor Clinton, nor Carter, are in Office.

Obama is.

also...another word for these 'statistics' is.. facts... and 'we' pull them out, merely to show what a catastrophic failure Obama's administration has been..... take a good look. It's the first rule of debating, make sure you can back up your argument.

It truly blows my mind that ANY one can look at these figures..and look around this country, this world.. and then pull the lever for the same team.. again.

You say what gets to you the MOST.. is special interest.. again.....SOLYNDRA... and your going to vote for them again?

I guess it's not getting to you.. that much.

 

Hope and Change (2000) had its chance... It failed us.

 

Lantec
smoking too much hope.

 

 

gmc2
Reply #24 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:06 PM

jazzymjr
I have to decide whether to eat or whether to get my meds filled...most months, I don't have enough for both.

I apologize if I have offended anyone...that was not my intent. I am just venting my frustrations...

sorry to hear that MJ. I hope that that will change when these politicians stop being politicians and start being human beings, doing what is right for ALL of us. absolutely no offense taken, best thoughts to you.

Philly0381
Reply #25 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:09 PM

Okay, so lets look at the unemployment number. 

Yes it went up but there are several factors which I think never get talked about.

Number of jobs available, keeps going down because it's cheaper to send our jobs overseas.  We just don't make anything anymore in this country.

Number of people able to retire making jobs available, going down because folks can not afford to retire, and there is that thing about people living longer.

Number of people entering the job market keeps going up each year due to the fact that, well you know why.

So, what's the reason for unemployment, none of us see the bigger picture, well that is just my opinion, I could be wrong. 

 

 

 

vStyler
Reply #26 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:16 PM

Philly0381
So, what's the reason for unemployment

Easiest one of all, massive regulatory increases, uncertainty regarding Obamacare requirments and tax codes and the inability and reluctance of the banks to lend.

 

No one is hiring, because no one knows what is coming down the pipeline from Obama.

 

The biggest killer of jobs and the economy, is UNCERTAINTY

 

What is sad is they know it, everyone knows it and they do nothing. They want people unemployed and under-employed.. so that everyone has to rely on , you guessed it..... the G O V T.

Call it what u want, socialism, marxism, communism, whatever you want to call it..

IT DOES NOT WORK. It will always fail. Time and again, history proves this to us. lets hope, this time, the entire concept is buried.

 

Chris Christie said it perfectly last night..

'Now, seven years later, President Obama prepares to divide our nation to achieve re-election.  This is not a leadership style, this is a re-election strategy.  Telling those who are scared and struggling that the only way their lives can get better is to diminish the success of others.  Trying to cynically convince those who are suffering that the American economic pie is no longer a growing one that can provide more prosperity for all who work hard.  Insisting that we must tax and take and demonize those who have already achieved the American Dream.  That may turn out to be a good re-election strategy for President Obama, but is a demoralizing message for America'

 

If Christie doesn't run... he damn well should have.

DrJBHL
Reply #27 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:17 PM

vStyler
Yes John, I am not opposed to any woman running for office, Man, Woman, tall, short, skinny, heavy...black, white or purple, matter not to me.

How about blueblue? ?


gmc2
Reply #28 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:24 PM

vStyler
also...another word for these 'statistics' is.. facts... and 'we' pull them out, merely to show what a catastrophic failure Obama's administration has been..... take a good look.

I have, those statistics are based on the condition of the economy when Obama took office and what was attempted to get the economy back on track. Are all of his decisions good ones, NO. But he is working without the republican's help/cooperation. Clinton's screw up with letting the market regulate it self took 10 years before the disaster became apparent. Time goes slow in DC, those stats and the end of the Clinton/Bush eras is a part of the overall picture that effects us all today.

vStyler
It truly blows my mind that ANY one can look at these figures..and look around this country, this world.. and then pull the lever for the same team.. again.

I'm on the other side of the fence (duh) here. I don't see how anyone can support a political party that represents only 2% of the population.

vStyler
Reply #29 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:30 PM

Im not in that 2% top tier, but they represent me, just fine.

Less Spending, Smaller Govt, and unleash the American entrepreneurial spirit.

None.. of which Obama has done.

Greg, I wonder if you even realize, every post, you have blamed someone else.

It's a tried and true liberal stipend... when you have nothing left to stand on... blame someone else.

People are waking up, people are taking notice, hell, how can one not?

Neither Obama, or any Dem. will be re-elected in 12, the writing is on the wall and the ship is sinking fast.

 

gmc2
Reply #30 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:32 PM

vStyler
'Now, seven years later, President Obama prepares to divide our nation to achieve re-election.

wow, the republicans have doing this for a much longer time with issues such as abortion.

vStyler
No one is hiring, because no one knows what is coming down the pipeline from Obama.

the jobs are being moved overseas where cheap labor and unsafe wroking conditions are the norm. Guess where the ipad, iphone, GE jet engines and other such items are being manufacturered. not only selling out the American worker but giving away advanced technology.

vStyler
Reply #31 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:37 PM

Greg, Tell me why you would pull the lever for Obama over lets say.. Herman Cain?

gmc2
Reply #32 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:41 PM

vStyler
Greg, I wonder if you even realize, every post, you have blamed someone else.

whoa, I didn't have anything to do with the mess that we're in.

I said that not all of Obama's actions have been good ones, includes lacking a spine. I blamed Clinton for allowing the financial market to regulate itself which set up the mortgage crisis. I do blame the republicans and the democrats for not playing nice together and I blame Bush for spending money without refilling the coffers.

AND, I don't see you taking any responsibility for the actions of your party, it's all been Obama's fault. (pot calling the kettle black here?)

vStyler
Reply #33 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:45 PM

AND, I don't see you taking any responsibility for the actions of your party, it's all been Obama's fault. (pot calling the kettle black here?)

 Sure I did..

vStyler
Bush caused some problems too, I'm not denying that one bit, set the ball rolling. 3 and a half years ago!

   and I thought u were reading every word  

 There is lots of blame to go around, we all know that, I won't argue that at all... but this President is in office NOW.

 Fortunately for not much longer. (I predict)

 The longer the status quo remains unchanged, the more Obama supporters with buyers remorse will come around to the fact that.. it just did not work.

 

 

gmc2
Reply #34 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:52 PM

vStyler
Greg, Tell me why you would pull the lever for Obama over lets say.. Herman Cain?

the pizza guy, the guy who stated that Obama should be impeached. He's funny, but not a serious contender. I don't think that he has the depth or the understanding to be President. I pulling the lever for Obama because the republican ideology of nay saying at the expense of the American people offends me. We need to have a balanced government to keep each party and branch of government in check. I want them to do what is right for you and me regardless, that means working together and compromise. When we have politicians doing what is right without regard to special interests then I might think differently.

vStyler
Reply #35 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:55 PM

I don't think that he has the depth or the understanding to be President.

..and a freshman Senator \ Community organizer did?

Dems can give many reasons not to support someone like Herman Cain.. just don't use depth, understanding, lack of experience etc

Don't underestimate Herman Cain.

gmc2
Reply #36 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:55 PM

vStyler
Sure I did..

Quoting vStyler, reply 7Bush caused some problems too, I'm not denying that one bit, set the ball rolling. 3 and a half years ago!





and I thought u were reading every word

gosh those blinders do get in the way, don't they.

vStyler
Reply #37 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:00 PM

Heading out for a meeting, I hope to return to a myriad of Obama era success stories!

 

Peace !

Lantec
Reply #38 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:02 PM

I'm on the other side of the fence (duh) here. I don't see how anyone can support a political party that represents only 2% of the population.

I believe they support the 50% of us that carry the other 50%.....but I'm Tea Party and I'll vote for anyone who can eliminate pork barrel politics, fix the abuse of food stamps, welfare & medicare & medicaid.

I also realize there's a fairly large group that WILL vote to protect their Zer0bama money.

Philly0381
Reply #39 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:16 PM

I'm hoping that the majority of people vote to as they say 'Right the Ship' and bring back America to what it once was.  Of course that would mean both the Democrats and Republicans lose. 

Oh, wait a minute, that would take a third political party.  Never mind.  Two is bad enough.      

LightStar
Reply #40 Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:20 PM

Change cannot be effected in this country in a mere 3.5 years. It is impossible when anyone who is President, be they Democrat or Republican, has to put up with a bunch of ignoramuses in the Senate, Congress and other key positions who could care less about this country as long as they get their massive paychecks. Just not possible. Any change made today that could improve this country's current status would take at least 8-12 years before anything viable could be seen IMO. Maybe we should make Jimmy Buffet president, at least he said he wants to pay his fair share of taxes. The rich in this country and those in their back pockets in government could effect change, they are just not willing to do it of course. We are basically fighting a losing battle.

But keep up the rhetoric folks, it makes for interesting reading at least!

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