Hope and Change!

Someone had to say it.

Wednesday, September 28, 2011 by vStyler | Discussion: Community

 

   How's it workin for ya 3 years later?

   Anyone better off?... that's a good one !

 

  here's the good news.. Nov. 2012 isn't so far off... and I for one will look back on the 4 lost years of my life, and realize..

 

  ....I can finally breath again.

 

  So... lastly, I am willing to go out on a limb, and a year ahead, predict.. , no, guarantee... a massive conservative victory...

  ......If I'm wrong... I'm sure a few of you will be back to remind me I posted this.

 

  The Free Market will reign again.

 

                                                                                      Hope and change.. is.. coming.

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vStyler
Reply #201 Sunday, October 2, 2011 8:30 PM

Well, we shall see, I predict you are wrong.

I predict 2014, the debt will be being substantially reduced, unemployment down, 1-2% at least, Obama-not-care repealed, if it even makes it thru the SC (doubtful).. there will have been a dramatic turnaround.

I'm going to stop looking backwards, and look forward.

Let me get it straight.. it was all the rage, it was encouraged and cheer-leaded to hope 3 years ago, with the Messiah coming into office.. and now that he has failed, You want me to lose my hope now? Hardly.

I know it stings, I actually feel sorry for all the folks who were hoodwinked by this snake oil vendor, I really do. I hate to sound arrogant, but I knew everything I needed to know about the guy within about 2 weeks of him being on the scene, way back when.

So,  I'll be damned if now that everyone has seen him, them, for what they are, if I am going to lose my hope for my future.

 

and ScottyInAtlanticCanada , maybe if you want to spam a thread with images and links, in bold, you can do it in another thread, I would surely appreciate it.

I didn't start this discussion for 'laffs' So please if you want to take part in a serious discussion, feel free, but stop spamming here please.

Doc doesn't need someone applauding every comment, I assure u , he can stand on his own two legs.

asking nicely

 

 

AtlanticCanadianScot
Reply #202 Sunday, October 2, 2011 8:37 PM

vell, V....true to form with ANYTHING on this site, all I'm met with is piss & vinnegar & a stonewalling cold front....don't let the facts get in the way of your arguments....{there iz NO spam here}.....keep on keeping on with your Tea Party delusion....pfo&d somewhere....we'd all be much relieved I'm sure

vStyler
Reply #203 Sunday, October 2, 2011 8:45 PM

Show me some facts.

Show me some positive facts, directly attributed to this Admin. Aside from the killing of terrorists, which I give credit to our military and CIA for.

For the love of god.. please.

Jafo
Reply #204 Sunday, October 2, 2011 8:46 PM

ScottyInAtlanticCanada ....this is vstyler's thread, and your nick suggests you're not even American so where's your relevance?

I don't [generally] comment on US politics....[it's a lost cause, anyway]  .... but I am obliged to keep an eye on contentious topics for the sanity of all.

The determinator of what comprises 'spam' is the responsibility of SD's site administrators and on first impression yours is sailing close to the wind.

vStyler
Reply #205 Sunday, October 2, 2011 8:49 PM

it's a lost cause, anyway

no it's not

and thank you.

DrJBHL
Reply #206 Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:04 PM

vStyler
I disagree, there is a new breed, there is new hope, there WILL be a voice of reason to pull us back from the brink.

And you said you aren't a romantic... you marshmallow, you (jk, bud).

vStyler
Well, we shall see, I predict you are wrong.

I predict 2014, the debt will be being substantially reduced, unemployment down, 1-2% at least, Obama-not-care repealed, if it even makes it thru the SC (doubtful).. there will have been a dramatic turnaround.

Like saying the sun will rise if x or y. Got news: It'll rise if x and y, not x and/or not y. Recovery is going to be very slow. Don't wish to repeat what I've said about that...there's no need.

The American public for the most part is neither analytical nor critical in its thinking. No one delves into serious analyses... the next gadget is really more important.... the wrapping/presentation is more important than the content, and everyone knows that the perception is the reality.

The education is abysmal not from lack of material offered, but from what is learned in between game boy and playstationX. Games, sports, anything but knowledge is respected. There will be a disaster from that as well. The easy way is what's taken. 

That with the greed (everyone's) and laziness? Good luck.

 

vStyler
Reply #207 Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:08 PM

DrJBHL
And you said you aren't a romantic... you marshmallow, you

NO, i said i was.. 'Hopeless'.. remember

DrJBHL
That with the greed (everyone's) and laziness? Good luck.

Here's some news, everyone.. isn't greedy, everyone, isn't lazy.

I know this, because I, am neither greedy or lazy.

 

Seth, almost sounds to me, that, with Barry on the way out... your.. looosing... hope??

 

Chin up lad

gmc2
Reply #208 Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:14 PM

I also look forward to the election. I can't predict who'll win (I never thought Nixon could) but the way that Washington is going at the moment will certainly present some interesting dust ups before then. We have to give the freshman teabaggers sufficient time to really muck up the works for there to be more of a negative impact than they have already caused.

gmc2
Reply #209 Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:16 PM

vStyler
with Barry on the way out...

who's Barry?

vStyler
Reply #210 Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:20 PM

who's Barry?

Last name O.

DrJBHL
Reply #211 Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:22 PM

Wrong again, John. Nowhere did I show preference for any party because I believe them all to be disgusting and corrupt.

As several people here know, I wouldn't vote for President Obama again.

He was hands off at all the wrong times, and was weak. He also was completely wrong in his handling of the Middle East.

I would rather be crucified while covered in honey over an ant hill than vote tea party. I cannot identify with them at all, nor can I stand what went on at their rallies.

Good night, mate. I'm old and need my sleep.

vStyler

Quoting gmc2, reply 209who's Barry?

Last name O.

That's just John's way of showing disrespect for the President of The United States.

 

 

vStyler
Reply #212 Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:32 PM

I have no, I repeat, no respect.. for Barrack Obama.

..and he has none for me.

Night Seth.

Jafo
Reply #213 Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:41 PM

vStyler
I have no, I repeat, no respect.. for Barrack Obama.

..and he has none for me.

First is your right.

The second is unfair.  He does not know you.

 

Interestingly, there are FAR MORE people on this planet who are profoundly grateful that Obama is the Prez....and Bush is no longer.

Unfortunately for Obama...they are MOSTLY ineligible to vote for a Pres.

vStyler
Reply #214 Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:54 PM

The second is unfair. He does not know you.

 

Anyone man who wants to take, in these proportions and redistribute, another mans wealth, to another man who has not earned it, in proper, has little or no respect for that man.

 

Any man who removes the word Creator, from the declaration of independence, disrespects and offends those who believe it should not be omitted.

 

I truly could go on and on, but in short, I couldn't feel any more disrespected by an American president.

 

Perception is reality.. or.. so they say.

 

 

Jafo
Reply #215 Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:24 PM

vStyler
Anyone man who wants to take, in these proportions and redistribute, another mans wealth, to another man who has not earned it, in proper, has little or no respect for that man.

That's what a 'tax' is.

I'm sure even Americans are required to pay taxes...and that Obama did NOT invent the process....

John...irrespective of whether you like him or not...or what he does - makes no difference to the fact he still does not know you.

gmc2
Reply #216 Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:36 PM

DrJBHL
That's just John's way of showing disrespect for the President of The United States.

vStyler
Reply #217 Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:39 PM

That's what a 'tax' is.

I knew u would say that

 

There's taxes, and there's the overly redistributive practices of a socialist society... BIG difference...Huge.

I choose taxes.

No, he does not know me... then again, I didn't profess he did... You don't have to know someone personally to disrespect them.. Imo.

If I feel disrespected by someone, who may or may not know me.. then, afaiac, I am.

This is really neither here or there in the grand scheme of things, just a personal feeling of mine. Last I checked, I can disrespect a Pres. all I want to and not be persecuted for it.

Lord knows, George Bush was all but assassinated in the blogosphere, I don't see anyone complaining about that.

I think calling him Barry, which actually IS a nickname of his, is.. ok.

Beats 'Dubba Ya'

I'll make him a deal, withdraw Obamacare, take back all the intrusive left wing driven attacks on free enterprise, take back all the apology's for our nation,

be a true friend to Israel, read the declaration of independence verbatim and I'll stop calling him Barry.. there's a deal for him.

DaveRI
Reply #218 Sunday, October 2, 2011 11:11 PM

vStyler
Lord knows, George Bush was all but assassinated in the blogosphere, I don't see anyone complaining about that.

Maybe a reminder of "The Great Dixie Chicks Debacle" will cheer you up.

vStyler
Show me some positive facts, directly attributed to this Admin. Aside from the killing of terrorists, which I give credit to our military and CIA for.

I've been sitting here pondering this and I can only come up with a few things, which you may or may not find encouraging:

1 - I believe we do have to credit him for keeping Pakistan out of the loop during the Osama project.  You've got to admit, that was a pretty ballsy decision, and personally I do believe it directly affected the results.  Granted, not a fact.

2 - As I mentioned before I also believe his choice to stay at arms length from Libya was prudent economically (and diplomatically). Granted, not a fact.

3 - I believe his interest in the repeal of "Don't Ask Don't Tell" is a positive thing.  I know, not a fact.

I've also been sitting here pondering past presidents trying to think of any positive facts I can directly attribute to them, and you know, I'm not coming up with much.  Seriously, I'm blank.  I guess my political memory is as short as anyone else.

vStyler
Reply #219 Sunday, October 2, 2011 11:45 PM

Well, most former presidents didn't come riding in on a white horse, backed by Messianic fanfare either.

I cant think of anyone so heralded, that has failed, so badly.

He's done a few good things dont get me wrong, but mostly i am thinking in domestic policy terms that affect our everyday lives.

Night all.

Jafo
Reply #220 Monday, October 3, 2011 12:09 AM

vStyler
No, he does not know me... then again, I didn't profess he did... You don't have to know someone personally to disrespect them.. Imo.

If I feel disrespected by someone, who may or may not know me.. then, afaiac, I am.

Yes, you can feel it, but at best it will only be presumptuous on your part that you personally were targetted as you cannot have been if the person does not even know of your existence....

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