You are just plain wrong about the potential value of the captured intelligence.  Has to be decoded (some of it) and analyzed (all of it) and then we will see what we have.  But, I would rather have it than not have it that is for sure!!

Agreed…rather than the United States always playing babysitter to the world, we need to concentrate on getting our own house in order and let nature take it’s course in other parts of the world. Sink or swim, fight or flight, stand or fall, fail or succeed (and here, no more damn bailouts and gov’t waste!)…but all on THEIR own. If they want freedom, democracy and independence bad enough, they'll make it happen themselves. If not, so be it... 

You know WG, in this particular case, that wouldn't bother me at all.  Actually I kind of like the sound of it.  Certainly not an idea that's going to cause me to lose any sleep.

But honestly, just because of the nature of the operation and the target, I imagine he simply got shot in the chest and head.

We'll see, but I highly doubt it.

Sorry this post is long, but I've been away for the last 24 and am just now catching up.

Yes, photos CAN be faked, on the other hand, who's to say that:
1.  The DNA "we" have (think about who exactly has said DNA) really IS the DNA of OBL?
2.  The DNA that was obtained to compare to the DNA the "we" (see above) have, really was obtained from OBL?
 
No disrespect to the SEAL Team, I served myself, but, a SEAL Team, and myself when I was in the Army,
are/were in fact...     ...you guessed it, Government employees who must follow orders.

The above is just a thought I had on this after reading your photos can be faked comment.

As far as giving them something to motivate them into attacks,
if you think some kind of planning by some of those terrorists is not already underway,
  may I suggest that you DON'T
1. Wait up for Santa at Christmas, and
2. Do not put anymore of your teeth that may fall out under your pillow hoping for a buck!   
 
 

I must be tired with this many minor edits...

So if they released the photos, why would you not think they were fake?

The question was not whether or not they were fake, fake or not, how can pictures of a dead guy pose a security risk?  Re-read my first paragraph in reply #105

I knew what ya meant...I was just sayin. And yeah all that dancin shit is silly.

I agree with that.

I did not say the DNA exists or doesn't or that he's alive or dead. Reread what I wrote.

Just to let you know, M-203: I served in the IDF in "peace" and war. I understand what motivates them, well.

As for "You want peace? GET OUT OF THEIR WORLD" and there won't be trouble, unfortunately their concept of "their world" is the world, unless they mean the "Holy soil of Saudi Arabia" or where-ever, natas2. Hey...I'd bring all of us home in a NYC second. Will they do the same? Or is that another double standard? 

     This is what I meant about capitalizing on it. Lets... after he retires the guy on the SEAL team will write a book titled: I shot OBL. He'll reap millions as it is sure to be a best seller. Another will write a book titled I Helped, so on and so forth. Already the media is clamoring to interview them. Put them on TV, all the talk shows. Beat it to death and make a mockery out of this country and the whole world will see Uncle Sam for what he really is. Controlled by the money makers! Wherever a profit can be turned this government has a shitty track record. Always there with their hands out...

"Gimme...Gimme..."

     This is how the arab world views us here in the states. Their mindset does not work that way. Throughout all of history the Arab nations have held true to one thing. Brothers support brothers. If one is wrong allow him to save face so that his is family not disgraced. Force him out yes but be nice about it. Don't insult his family along the way. That may not be exact but you get the point. Their way of thinking is not ours.

     Go back about sixty years when the US installed the Shah of Iran as Iran's ruler. The man was a dictator. He didn't care for his people that much. He was getting paid generously by the US in the form of weapons and money and control as long as he made available to them access to the vast oil fields. In 1979 the revolution saw the Shah gone and the country in the hands of fundamentalists who don't like us very much for that reason. Other Arab nations were treated just as poorly. The oil was their main interest. Control the oil and control a helluva lot more. There has been so much interference with those people from the US and other western powers that it is no wonder they hate us so much. I would too if you did that to my home.

well maybe they should stay out of ours, we have so many arabs coming here via illegal boats (jumping the que over the people

who do it legally and wait for years) .... and yet they hate westeners, but cant scramble over each other fast enough to get here...

im sick to death of the arabs, they are nothing but arrogant, hateful, and a voilent race. 

They are jealous of the western nations because we are 'blessed countries" (food ect prosperity...ect)

 When they come to your country (illegally) they demand mosques be built, everything has to be allah (meat slaughtering ect) and berka's are everywhere.

Ive just had enough of them.

Interference is a 2-way street.  Yes, we're there, trying to capitalize on their resources, but they're also there, willing to take our cash.  Bin Laden didn't tell us "no way, you capitalistic pigs" when we offered to pay him handsomely, and train him, to take out the Soviets.  Pakistan doesn't tells us "You fat and stupid Americans -- KEEP your foreign aid money and get out of our country." 

All of our countries work the same way -- extremely wealthy people with global interests control the corrupt government officials while the "regular Joes" try to eek out a living and take care of their families, showing charity to those that they are able to, and hope that some higher power intervenes soon to make it all right again. 

i should also mention that recently on anzac day the arabs here said they were going to ruin anzac day with a protest because anzac day

to them was evil, so uvah, i dont agree with you, the arab nations have brought this apon themselves, they want to rise above other nations

and take control by force with bloodshed, war and terror.

The boats are not 'illegal', they don't hate westerners, the Afghanistan people are not Arabs and the burqa is worn by a minority.

The Australian media has a lot to answer for

those boats are illegal, run by boat smugglers, filled with people trying to enter australia without going through customs.......and the proper legal system.

anyway this is off topic, and i dont want to hijack a thread, so i wont say anymore.

Not at all k10w3 - Try to think as they do. From the mid 1840's when oil was first discovered the UK was the first to establish colonies in the region albeit for tea. India. Algeria became a colony too. France. Italy took Libya during WWII. Their history is replete with occupation from the western world and leaders were put in place by those western countries. Hussein in Iraq by the US. The Shah of Iran by the US. Syria's Autocrat. Egypt's Mubarek. These guys liked US money so much they did whatever Uncle Sam told them to do and when they were no longer of any use they get rid of them or made it possible. Notice how the US was reluctant to get involved in Libya until France started kicking ass and the Libyan people asked for US intervention. Kuwait, Bahrain, The Arab Emirates. All US allies propped up in the beginning by US money. You see propaganda. I see history.

Just curious, did anyone pick up on the last paragraph of my reply #105 on page 5 of this Thread?
That's another thing I think is odd about the information we've gotten about this whole thing.

do you mean the part about being tired?

jesus christ, the guy is dead. the SEALs took DNA, did facial recognition, took pictures and whatever else. the President and staff viewed the operation from the SEALs helmet cams. while the video might be entertaining if you like that sort of thing, is it really necessary. You really don't believe that the operation went down or the outcome as stated occurred?

That is not true.  They aren't all like that, just like all Americans aren't like the idiots you saw on the news after the OBL killing.  There is a fringe group that take their own meaning from their religion and bend it to their own ideals.  What set OBL off against America was our presence on their holy soil when the 1st Gulf War went down.  That is the defining moment when OBL set his dogs on us.

OK, guys....let's NOT get into the game of vilifying ANY specific race, creed or colour, no matter whom, what or why.

To do so will have you removed from this site.

Every country has its arsehole.  This world as a whole now simply has one less.