Palm vs. PocketPC
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 by Draginol | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I've been a long time Palm III owner and am starting to think about getting a new PDA. But I'm not sure which to get. I'm starting to get somewhat frustrated with the lack of innovation and advancement with the PalmOS (low resolution displays, relatively limited abilities).
Is there going to be any major updates to PalmOS in the near future that would make it worth waiting for or should I look at getting the next generation iPaq when it comes out. What do you guys think?
Is there going to be any major updates to PalmOS in the near future that would make it worth waiting for or should I look at getting the next generation iPaq when it comes out. What do you guys think?
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paxx
Reply #22 Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:45 PM
Reply #22 Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:45 PM
Plainsong: there are cordless modems for Palm and Visors too. Check this one out... Of course it's pricey.
https://store.palm.com/Catalog/productdetails.asp?productnr=3180&parent=1010&type=1
https://store.palm.com/Catalog/productdetails.asp?productnr=3180&parent=1010&type=1
paxx
Reply #23 Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:57 PM
Reply #23 Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:57 PM
Hey, I just checked out the new Palm m505 featuring the new Palm OS 4. It's very cool.
Ah, now if only I had money.
Ah, now if only I had money.
juni
Reply #24 Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:28 AM
Reply #24 Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:28 AM
About handwriting, Microsoft Transcriber works great (lets you write directly on the screen) and it even recognizes _my_ crow's feet. 
plainsong
Reply #25 Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:07 AM
Reply #25 Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:07 AM
Yeah, there are modems for Palm, but not network cards.
Doreen, sure I've seen those mods, but I'd have to send in my CF sleeve, or else pay and arm and a leg, and I'm in Finland. Since the release of the Toshiba and new Nec devices is so close, I figure I'll bide my time and wait. Yes yes, I know.. I'm a traitor.
Those Merlin SS's took a a beating on PDA Buzz as being ugly, but I think they just don't appreciate the good graphics work when they see it.
Doreen, sure I've seen those mods, but I'd have to send in my CF sleeve, or else pay and arm and a leg, and I'm in Finland. Since the release of the Toshiba and new Nec devices is so close, I figure I'll bide my time and wait. Yes yes, I know.. I'm a traitor.
Those Merlin SS's took a a beating on PDA Buzz as being ugly, but I think they just don't appreciate the good graphics work when they see it.
paxx
Reply #26 Thursday, August 16, 2001 6:07 AM
Reply #26 Thursday, August 16, 2001 6:07 AM
Personnaly, if it wasn't for all the software availabel for Windows, I would definetly choose another platform, most likely Linux, QNX, or BeOS.
Now, why would I be foolish enough to choose another MS for my palm device, when software support is actually inferior? Rubish...
And I am quite surprised there are not more people here that are speaking up for the Palm OS based devices, since on the market they are a lot more popular. Probably has to do the art-oriented population here is more attracted to the Pocket PC's eye candies...
Now, why would I be foolish enough to choose another MS for my palm device, when software support is actually inferior? Rubish...
And I am quite surprised there are not more people here that are speaking up for the Palm OS based devices, since on the market they are a lot more popular. Probably has to do the art-oriented population here is more attracted to the Pocket PC's eye candies...
juni
Reply #27 Thursday, August 16, 2001 6:48 AM
Reply #27 Thursday, August 16, 2001 6:48 AM
..eye candies? Just because it is faster and looks better?
Dangeruss
Reply #28 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:04 AM
Reply #28 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:04 AM
Doreen wrote "I can do "anything" on my ppc that I can do on my Computer and "more" cuz I can do it when I'm anywhere at anytime... (including wireless irc! can ya do that on agenda gadgets only??? no...)"
So... fire up Photoshop and SkinStudio and make us a WB skin on your almighty PPC
Or maybe AutoCad or 3D Studio MAX? Illustrator? Ok... those are all too hard... how about MicroAngelo, or something tiny like BeatNik.
If all you use your PPC for is net stuff and text (based) files, you're fine. But "real" computing requires a "real" computer. Having to attach large tethered peripherals to your "pocket" computer makes the whole "pocket" concept moot.
So... fire up Photoshop and SkinStudio and make us a WB skin on your almighty PPC
Or maybe AutoCad or 3D Studio MAX? Illustrator? Ok... those are all too hard... how about MicroAngelo, or something tiny like BeatNik.If all you use your PPC for is net stuff and text (based) files, you're fine. But "real" computing requires a "real" computer. Having to attach large tethered peripherals to your "pocket" computer makes the whole "pocket" concept moot.
craeonics
Reply #29 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:16 AM
Reply #29 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:16 AM
Listen to Russ. I have actually played with one of them PDA things (played with a WebPad too, those things have some serious design flaws: big, clumsy, heavy). Anyway, I can't remember which brand it was, but it ran WindowsCE. Poked around with it a bit, played some Zelda on an emulator, got a splitting headache from staring at that so so LCD display which is only visible at certain angles and concluded that it was nothing but a glorified agenda. Hence the name: Personal Digital Assistant, as in agenda, calendar, address book.
Doreen
Reply #30 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:21 AM
Reply #30 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:21 AM
wrong....
Pocket Artist hahaha (I think that is what it is called)
yup you "Can" do just about anything on your PPC
Atleast w/ "your skills Riss" you would fire up "Pocket Artist" and whip out a windowblind while waiting in line somewhere... hehe
If you're a programer or web designer as well you can also code & program as well as design a web site while on your ppc too!
you can do anthing really
Pocket Artist hahaha (I think that is what it is called)
yup you "Can" do just about anything on your PPC
Atleast w/ "your skills Riss" you would fire up "Pocket Artist" and whip out a windowblind while waiting in line somewhere... hehe
If you're a programer or web designer as well you can also code & program as well as design a web site while on your ppc too!
you can do anthing really
Doreen
Reply #31 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:22 AM
Reply #31 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:22 AM
crae you must have been trying out at Palm not an IPAQ.
Doreen
Reply #34 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:29 AM
Reply #34 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:29 AM
not when you put a killer "Vaja" leather case on top of em!
Doreen
Reply #35 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:31 AM
Reply #35 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:31 AM
sheesh you guys don't even trust me or something?
gimme one day w/ my IPAQ w/ any of you palm guys and you would never go back to your palms.
I'm serious you guys just don't know what to do w/ them that's all it is!
you can do anything on a IPAQ
gimme one day w/ my IPAQ w/ any of you palm guys and you would never go back to your palms.
I'm serious you guys just don't know what to do w/ them that's all it is!
you can do anything on a IPAQ
craeonics
Reply #36 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:39 AM
Reply #36 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:39 AM
craeonics doesn't trust people whose names start with a D
Doreen
Reply #37 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:43 AM
Reply #37 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:43 AM
arghhhhhhh! crae
just send evil_crae over then "He" will trust me!
hehe
(and I'm not evil today I'm serious)
just send evil_crae over then "He" will trust me!
hehe
(and I'm not evil today I'm serious)
paxx
Reply #38 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:45 AM
Reply #38 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:45 AM
Doreen, we trust that you like your iPaq. But as the saying goes: differnt folks, different strokes.
Or something like that.
Or something like that.
Doreen
Reply #39 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:47 AM
Reply #39 Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:47 AM
I know paxx
(just like to make sure ppl don't like palms cuz they know no better) haha
(just like to make sure ppl don't like palms cuz they know no better) haha
plainsong
Reply #40 Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:09 PM
Reply #40 Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:09 PM
"gimme one day w/ my IPAQ w/ any of you palm guys and you would never go back to your palms."
As a former Palm user, listen to Doreen. I don't argue that the different OS's are for different people, but with newer Palms, they're just priced too high for there to be any competition at all. Why should I pay the same as for an Ipaq and get less? Makes no sense.
However, I can obviously see where one of the "lesser" Palms would suit you if you weren't looking for everything and the kitchen sink. Keeps you organized, lots of accessories if you want them, and a very an excellent collection of software out there.
But as long as Palm keeps the prices equal, there's no comparison. Palm is digging it's own grave without help from anyone else. PocketPC all the way.
As a former Palm user, listen to Doreen. I don't argue that the different OS's are for different people, but with newer Palms, they're just priced too high for there to be any competition at all. Why should I pay the same as for an Ipaq and get less? Makes no sense.
However, I can obviously see where one of the "lesser" Palms would suit you if you weren't looking for everything and the kitchen sink. Keeps you organized, lots of accessories if you want them, and a very an excellent collection of software out there.
But as long as Palm keeps the prices equal, there's no comparison. Palm is digging it's own grave without help from anyone else. PocketPC all the way.
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Reply #21 Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:11 PM
http://www.brighthand.com/html/editorials/merlin.html