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Monday, June 7, 2004 by NightTrainthedark | Discussion: Skinning

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pinchecl
Reply #1 Monday, June 7, 2004 7:44 AM
"nothing remains original"
As soon as you modify anything you can say it isn't original anymore. I think that as long as something can be recognized as someone elses work you'll need permission. I myself am in doubt very much about an author that ported and modded a sysmetrix theme I did (without permission. It is very much recognizable..and I do not really like that. However, don't know if there are "legal" grounds to do anything (if I would undertake any actions which I won't)
eieio
Reply #2 Monday, June 7, 2004 7:44 AM
If you're talking about using them for a starting point as far as image size and layout and you replace all the images with new ones, I don't see why you couldn't.
Although just re-coloring someone elses images wouldn't be right without permission.
eieio
Reply #3 Monday, June 7, 2004 7:45 AM
There you go beating me to the punch again, pinchecl.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #4 Monday, June 7, 2004 7:49 AM
Thanks guys, To be clearer, It's the coding and the way someone has a skin set up is what I mean. I just want to use it as a starting point. All graphics would be different from original. I ask because a skin was booted from the GUIO for using Treetogs thunderstorm skin as a template. The author didn't change everything and it was booted.
eieio
Reply #5 Monday, June 7, 2004 7:56 AM
That's the key, the 'not changing everything'.
Koasati
Reply #6 Monday, June 7, 2004 8:46 AM
Gee... i hope it's ok, since that's exactly how I got started.

Pinchecl.. email me about that skin, I'd be glad to check into it. If a skin is recognizable as modification of your work, you have every right to have it removed. Using a skin as a template is one thing, using another author's graphics is an entirely different matter.





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NightTrainthedark
Reply #7 Monday, June 7, 2004 11:08 AM
Thank you Koasati. If you say it's ok then it must be.
Tiggz
Reply #8 Wednesday, June 9, 2004 4:02 AM
each new wb I do is a "modification" of the last one I did, but the very first one was a "modification" of an existing skin

to my mind, it's just a nicer way to start a skin than having that awful blue luna all over my system - needless to say every single part of the original skin was made afresh, it was there merely as a more attractive framewrok than the default alternative
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #9 Wednesday, June 9, 2004 1:54 PM

I do the same. I have one skin where I got some obscure settings just right, and have made each new skin since then based on that one. I did start off with the luna skin, but it was a real pain getting everything the way I wanted it.


I don't see a problem using someone else's skin for a template - providing all the images are replaced.


 

CerebroJD
Reply #10 Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:51 AM
each new wb I do is a "modification" of the last one I did, but the very first one was a "modification" of an existing skin


Same here! Luna =
NightTrainthedark
Reply #11 Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:30 AM
I find it hard to be creative when I use my last skin as a template. I have trouble seeing it as a blank template. I have come to see the luna default as a blank piece of paper. Maybe that will eventually change for me if I use one of my older skins. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
knatzz
Reply #12 Saturday, July 3, 2004 2:50 PM
I ALWAYS use the luna skin to start. If I want to do something the way I saw it in an existing skin I just use the import feature. That way you can be sure that no spare parts of someone elses work ends up in your final product.
Essencay
Reply #13 Saturday, July 3, 2004 3:19 PM
Same here knatzz
farkusmarkus
Reply #14 Saturday, July 3, 2004 4:03 PM
I'm only working on my second skin and I find it easier to use my first as a template. Probably only because I found the original naming scheme of the files to be confusing and renamed them all.
knatzz
Reply #15 Saturday, July 3, 2004 4:41 PM
I'll probably always see luna as a blank canvas too. And trying to use a different skin as a template would probably give me a headache I do re-use alot of my own older stuff. ex: Re-configuring titlebar buttons can be a pain adding rollups and such which I always do, so I just import the set from my last skin and replace the graphics and do any adjustments from there. I hate the naming scheme too farkusmarkus, but I do almost all of my images without even looking at the default so it doesn't bother me that much, I just save as I go using my own naming scheme. Then I save the skin under a different name and all the old luna images are gone.

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