Personal attacks?  I'm not surprised.

Although, most typical.

It must be working. After the Wife and I get paid from our two minimum wage jobs ( almost all of the RV industry along with my careeer in RV repair is in the toilet) and pay our bills, that's what we have left......change.

Yes, most typical.....

Weren't the vast majority of new jobs created during the Reagan/Bush Reign in the service sector at or below minimum wage? That many of your good paying jobs were either Outsourced overseas or "insourced" to much cheaper H-1b Visas. The high cost of tax cuts and deregulation. Its going to take years to clean up your country's economic mess. The mess in the Gulf (Also caused by deregulation.)  will probably be cleaned up long before it........

Seems this thread morphed from how ya doing now to a political thread.

1.  Lincoln freed the slaves but the afro americans like the democrates

2.  Kennedy started Viet Nam but Nixon takes the heat for it.

3.  Bush put us in debt even though congress approved or disaproved the money(democraticly controlled)

4.  Bush started the was in Irac even though congress approved it (democraticly controlled).

I could go on and on but whats the use, Bush did it, not Obama with his democraticly controlled congress(who approves the money).

By the way, I never voted for Bush as Texas Governer or for President.  So don't try laying you love Bush crap on me.  I can read, see and have experienced shit for many years.

I never expect change to come from the Federal government.  I do expect leadership and in the last 19 months I've not seen that.

I'm still mostly unemployed and working contract gigs.  I still can't afford self-funded healthcare.

I'm still working on change at the local level here in the Detroit-metro area.  Last week I helped build a playground for a school that's being reopened after years of neglect.  I'm buying more goods from people I know.  I'm spending more time with neighbors.

I continue to hope that my elected officials are honestly doing what they think is best (no matter how much I disagree with their choices or how ineffective it ends up being).

In the past 19 months I've become more saddened by young people thinking that the government is the only solution to our country's problems and disillusioned when it fails to solve them.

In the past 19 months I've had many teachable moments with my kids; explaining why things are hard right now and what they'll be able to do to create real change and hope.

I believe things will get better.  I know that I'm going to be able to say I was a part of that.

By the way . . can you spare some change?

I want to start a new movement in the U.S., one where everyone is included, none of this divide up the country into Blue and Red States anymore, no special interest groups seeking favors for votes. 

What do all of you think, does it have a chance?

Oh, and wine and cheese will not be served.

      It's a really sad thing to say, tragic even, and if it weren't true damn near laughable. To think all those who were in favor of Bush and wanted to put McCain right on up there to continue the insanity...we'd be sitting in a police state right now or close to it. As for change...I was two microns away from getting out of my predicament when November 2009 happened. The economy crashed, the world came to the brink of bankruptcy and here I am...right back to square one. Kudos to all the asinine idiots on wall street.

May have a chance after we give this great land of ours a BIG ENIMA!

Now thats a fact.  I think if things don't change real soon we'll have martial law or be a police state, our rights being lost more each day.  Thats why I wanted K Baily Hutchson as governer of Texas, I think she would have moved to cecede.  Damn Perry doesn't have the balls.

I think he has the balls, but wants to be President of the US one day ))))))))))))))))))

Honestly I think that's a direct result of the people demanding to be "safe", at any cost.

direct copy from the White House Blog...August 4, 2009 (we need you to rat out the dissenters) I think the first paragraph must've been a miss-quote given what we know now.

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Here is the hope and change you are looking for.
The economy will improve instantly if
the republicans do well in November.
~

Again, change and hope are better served at the personal level and rolling up to the city, state, federal levels.

No change to spare unfortunately as we have not had a raise in over five years.  Still, we're employed and we have health benefits so very lucky compared to a lot of other folks.  My daughter got a great job recently after being out of work for almost two years.  My sister also just got a job so maybe things are starting to turn around - at least a little bit.  I've been where you are, Zubaz, and it's rough - really rough.  Sometimes I didn't think I was going to make it but things finally turned around.  Hope things turn around soon for you too and for any other forum members who are out of work. 

Lincoln was a progressive.  In his day, the Republicans were the Liberal party.  In other words, he was a modern Democrat.

The French started Vietnam.  We foolishly went in to bail them out.  Kennedy wasn't responsible for the escalation that Johnson and Nixon took Vietnam to.

The Republicans controlled both houses of congress during the majority of the Bush years...ahem.  Even for the two years they didn't, the Democrats only had a slim majority in one house.  So with the White House holding the veto and the GOP holding the other house, the GOP still effectively controlled the government.

You can look up all of these facts online in a thousand different reputable places.

Actually, we were MUCH closer under the Bush years of Executive Order fiat.  Obama has undone many of those abominations already.

It was Bush who removed the top three executives in every government agency, replacing them with political stooges with a White House agenda.  

It was Cheney and Bush who savaged the US Constitution on a daily basis and stated that "deficits don't matter".

You are inaccurately and quite cynically ascribing Bush's crimes on his predecessor and successor.  

While Obama is by no means perfect, at least take the time to educate yourself on the things he SHOULD be held accountable for, versus the things left over from the "most corrupt administration in the history of this nation" - a quote from a close friend who has been in and around the White House for the past 40 years.