Bush vs. Kerry on WinCustomize.com
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize News
We took a poll of WinCustomize.com users on whether they prefer Bush or Kerry to be President of the United States. Very interesting results and we thank the 1700 or so people who participated in this unscientific poll.
Of Americans who responded:
50.2% prefer Bush
49.8% prefer Kerry
But of those who are not American:
21% prefer Bush
79% prefer Kerry
Suffice to say, Americans are split on the issue but international users are pretty firm in their viewpoint.
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Brock Beesley
Reply #3 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:02 AM
Reply #3 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:02 AM
I guess this forum has the potential to turn into an ugly war.
I wasn't sure how to vote for this because I'm a Canadian citizen that lives in Florida. For this election I won't be able to cast my vote but hopefully I'll be a citizen within the next 4 years. Suffice it to say, I voted that I'm a non-American who would have voted for Bush. I like consistency and morality. Both of those seem to lack in the Kerry/Edwards ticket. I don't agree with everything that Bush has done but I think he's a far better president than Kerry. One thing to note. My father-in-law owns a small business. Most of America is run on small businesses. (Is Stardock considered a small business?). Electing Kerry will hurt the small businesses big time!
One more thing, let's be honest. If Kerry raises taxes on the upper class and large-scale business do we honestly think that the middle and lower classes will be unaffected? Seriously. Do we think that the upper class and large-scale business will simply be content to lose money? No way. They'll just up their prices and maintain their same bottom-dollar. So if the prices of something go up so that the same margin of profit is achieved, who pays? Everybody, INCLUDING the lower and middle class.
IMHO . . . of course.
I wasn't sure how to vote for this because I'm a Canadian citizen that lives in Florida. For this election I won't be able to cast my vote but hopefully I'll be a citizen within the next 4 years. Suffice it to say, I voted that I'm a non-American who would have voted for Bush. I like consistency and morality. Both of those seem to lack in the Kerry/Edwards ticket. I don't agree with everything that Bush has done but I think he's a far better president than Kerry. One thing to note. My father-in-law owns a small business. Most of America is run on small businesses. (Is Stardock considered a small business?). Electing Kerry will hurt the small businesses big time!
One more thing, let's be honest. If Kerry raises taxes on the upper class and large-scale business do we honestly think that the middle and lower classes will be unaffected? Seriously. Do we think that the upper class and large-scale business will simply be content to lose money? No way. They'll just up their prices and maintain their same bottom-dollar. So if the prices of something go up so that the same margin of profit is achieved, who pays? Everybody, INCLUDING the lower and middle class.
IMHO . . . of course.
Nannok of the north
Reply #4 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:07 AM
Reply #4 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:07 AM
I'm a paying wincustomize customer, DONT use this site for poletics.
I think that joeuser is the place for these types of polls.
I think that joeuser is the place for these types of polls.
Omerna
Reply #5 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:35 AM
Reply #5 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:35 AM
I left another site that I liked very much because they sent an email to me saying that I should vote for their choice and why. This isn't anything that should be here at all! This is a site for skinning and related topics. What has politics have to do with how your computer looks?
TheD2JBug
Reply #6 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:01 AM
Reply #6 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:01 AM
Nannok: why?
It's a Poll. All you do is click on the dot. Nobody from WC is forcing you to vote either in the poll or in the General Election, or to post or read this thread.
If Froggy came on here and screamed for all American WC subscribers to vote either way, I'd drop my WC subscription that second. But he hasn't. It's a non-issue.
It's a Poll. All you do is click on the dot. Nobody from WC is forcing you to vote either in the poll or in the General Election, or to post or read this thread.
If Froggy came on here and screamed for all American WC subscribers to vote either way, I'd drop my WC subscription that second. But he hasn't. It's a non-issue.
Frogboy
Reply #7 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:12 PM
Reply #7 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:12 PM
Lighten up guys. The election is only a couple weeks away and it's interesting to see how people in customization feel about these things.
WinCustomize is a non-partisan site. We don't care who wins.
Nannok of the north
Reply #8 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:56 PM
Reply #8 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:56 PM
TheD2JBug This why:
This poll is ok,But I'm fear the day these pages are filled with propaganda for either candidate. So drop these kind of polls before that happens.Not everybody is as clear minded as you seems to be.
Theres enough of blog sites to use instead of this one for those..
:>
This poll is ok,But I'm fear the day these pages are filled with propaganda for either candidate. So drop these kind of polls before that happens.Not everybody is as clear minded as you seems to be.
Theres enough of blog sites to use instead of this one for those..
:>
StephanA
Reply #10 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 4:37 PM
Reply #10 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 4:37 PM
Frogboy
Let me see - Bush versus Kerry? Frankly, I would prefer Adni versus SkinPlant.
Let me see - Bush versus Kerry? Frankly, I would prefer Adni versus SkinPlant.
Surj
Reply #11 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 4:45 PM
Reply #11 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 4:45 PM
Nannok of the north, its a poll, its in fun, and it doesnt matter. Please learn to be a bit more tolerant, this has zero impact on you, or even your visit to this site. Polls like this are infrequent, you dont have to comment on them, and you dont have to vote on them.
Castle
Reply #12 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:15 PM
Reply #12 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:15 PM
I agree with Thornz and Frogboy. It's a totally benign and (key word) optional poll. I see no reason why an interesting poll topic like this should be banned from wincustomize. If you have major issues with this election and feel you can't approach it in a civil manner, you can simply move passed it.
GreenReaper
Reply #13 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:48 PM
Reply #13 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:48 PM
My personal feeling is that it's not bad to have such polls once in a while, but it's clearly possible to overdo it. The statistics were interesting - I think I've seen that sort of result before, but it's even more clear now. However, this is a skinning site, not a political discussion site, and since Stardock has one of those in abundance I'd have thought most of those posts (and certainly all the opinion ones) should be on there. Which indeed they are, so that's cool.
cygng
Reply #14 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:01 PM
Reply #14 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:01 PM
Mr. Beesley, this is a skinning site. Parroting what the Republicans have been blaring constantly for the past twenty years is needlessly tiresome and annoying. If you think being White, Christian and Republican entitle you to good morals and character, please review all the blood money ties that the Facists in the White House have with the various oil and Saudi organizations. If you think money justifies all the needless deaths, then you don't belong in this country. We have enough rednecks as it is. You and the rest of the Facists should go start another Nazi Germany preferably in the Antartic. IMHO, of course.
lilstarfish
Reply #15 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:33 PM
Reply #15 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:33 PM
Why wasn't Nader in the poll?
Since people from both democrats and republicans
appearently find him to be way better than the
the two skulls & bones, it would have been intersting
to see how many people would vote for him.
Especially since the major media are doing their best
to ignore him, they don't even dare to let him on
the tv-"debates".
Since people from both democrats and republicans
appearently find him to be way better than the
the two skulls & bones, it would have been intersting
to see how many people would vote for him.
Especially since the major media are doing their best
to ignore him, they don't even dare to let him on
the tv-"debates".
Essencay
Reply #16 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:51 PM
Reply #16 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:51 PM
cygng I am offended by your remarks and IMHO they border on being racist. >
Rocky Nimda
Reply #17 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:07 PM
Reply #17 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:07 PM
cygng You say:
Mr. Beesley, this is a skinning site. Parroting what the Republicans have been blaring constantly for the past twenty years is needlessly tiresome and annoying.
Why is what you say any better? Does it have any more to do with skinning?
Didn't you notice that half of the Americans on that voted on this site voted one way, and half the other? All of the national polls have the election at a dead heat.
Does that mean that the half that doesn't agree with you should leave the country? If so, 90% of the tax base would be gone. How would the half that are left exist with only 10% of the tax base?
Mr. Beesley, this is a skinning site. Parroting what the Republicans have been blaring constantly for the past twenty years is needlessly tiresome and annoying.
Why is what you say any better? Does it have any more to do with skinning?
Didn't you notice that half of the Americans on that voted on this site voted one way, and half the other? All of the national polls have the election at a dead heat.
Does that mean that the half that doesn't agree with you should leave the country? If so, 90% of the tax base would be gone. How would the half that are left exist with only 10% of the tax base?
scratch_pentagon
Reply #18 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:15 PM
Reply #18 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:15 PM
there is a difference between supporting bush and supporting bush's morals. i would say that, most likely, not all bush supporters think his ties to the bin laden family are morally sound. many are probably even unaware of them.
OldTexas
Reply #19 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:53 PM
The remarkable thing about this and most other polls is they ignore the tird choice. In virtually every election the Libertarian Party is on all 50 state ballots just like the Republicans and Democrats. The difference? We don't steal $300 million in your taxes to advertise with.
You should take a look at www.lp.org and realize you DO hace a choice on November 2nd.
Reply #19 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:53 PM
The remarkable thing about this and most other polls is they ignore the tird choice. In virtually every election the Libertarian Party is on all 50 state ballots just like the Republicans and Democrats. The difference? We don't steal $300 million in your taxes to advertise with.
You should take a look at www.lp.org and realize you DO hace a choice on November 2nd.
lilstarfish
Reply #20 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:43 PM
Reply #20 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:43 PM
You may also find Ralph Nader to be to your taste.
He exposes both Bush and Kerry and their war machine
down the drain and that's why the old parties are scared witless of him. If Nader becomes the president the bogus war on terror will be over and the freedoms Ashcroft and cronies have trashed will be restored.
This of course is a "threat" to the people who want to keep the war machine going for their own gainings.
Read and learn as much as you can in order to stop the madness.
Much info about Nader, his history and mind here:
http://www.votenader.org/
And an interesting article here:
Don't Vote Skull & Bones
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/02/281532.shtml
He exposes both Bush and Kerry and their war machine
down the drain and that's why the old parties are scared witless of him. If Nader becomes the president the bogus war on terror will be over and the freedoms Ashcroft and cronies have trashed will be restored.
This of course is a "threat" to the people who want to keep the war machine going for their own gainings.
Read and learn as much as you can in order to stop the madness.
Much info about Nader, his history and mind here:
http://www.votenader.org/
And an interesting article here:
Don't Vote Skull & Bones
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/02/281532.shtml
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Reply #1 Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:21 AM
My view is based more around Bush's fiscal policy. Enacting tax cuts when you have an increasing deficit is just not a sustainable thing to do, yet he insists that it is a great idea. Relatively speaking, the US does an awful lot now with not much (OK, so maybe the war does come into this, since this adds more to the "stuff governement does" side), and I worry that cutting back even further will affect truly essential services that I may need to rely on when I come over to the US to work.
Government takes money to do its job. Everyone complains about it, sure, but just pretending it doesn't is not a valid solution - it's like scheduling work you know will never get done in the time you've given for it, and everyone in (eg) the computer games industry knows how well that works . . . the schedule slips, and if things are not improved, the company goes bust. I don't want to go work in a country that's on the road to going bust, and I think that Bush's fiscal policy leads down that road.