ObjectDock Plus arrives on Friday!
Thursday, July 8, 2004 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize News
ObjectDock is a freeware program that gives users the ability to easily manage their tasks and programs in a very slick way. It also supports plugins in the form of "docklets".
But...
Stardock has also been working on ObjectDock PLUS! The plus version features a ton of new features based off of our own use of ObjectDock and feedback from the thousands of ObjectDock users out there. Things that make ObjectDock Plus a very powerful yet simple program for turbo-charging your Windows desktop.
Check out this preview to get an idea of what's coming. ObjectDock Plus should be available in BETA form quite soon. It will cost $19.95 for new users or $14.95 for current Object Desktop users.
ObjectDock Plus supports multiple docks on the desktop of different styles (tabbed and untabbed)
Tabbed docks can have the system tray in them. Hold down the left mouse button on a system tray item and you can change its image.
Taskbar items can be grouped together like the default Windows taskbar.
Docks can be moved to the edge and then docked where only the tabs show until the mouse goes over them. The size of tabs and docks are controlled from the easy to use configuration dialog.
Example of having multiple tabbed docks with just the tabs showing.
Docks can be set up so that they're always on top (such as where the tabs show up on top of windows) or behave like normal windows that show up on top when you move your mouse to a specific position.
The tabs and dock backgrounds are skinnable. Use the ones in there or download more made by others. Change the color to any color you choose.
Organize your work as you like.
ObjectDock Plus supports Stardock fly-out menus (you have to see it in action to appreciate how cool this is). A great way to zip through graphic files drives, etc.
Manage your various docks through the ObjectDock Plus system tray item. Very straight forward to create and modify
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qrush
Reply #42 Thursday, July 8, 2004 9:46 PM
Reply #42 Thursday, July 8, 2004 9:46 PM
Woot. I'll be standing first in line for this!
And about this "PowerUser Package," let's add it up
ODNT (50) + CursorXP (10) + ObjectDock Plus (15) + BootSkin Plus (20?) = 95ish
Well, it seems like a good deal to me! But would it include a WC subscrip?
And how about a premium package that includes all of the premium suites and icons?
And about this "PowerUser Package," let's add it up
ODNT (50) + CursorXP (10) + ObjectDock Plus (15) + BootSkin Plus (20?) = 95ish
Well, it seems like a good deal to me! But would it include a WC subscrip?
And how about a premium package that includes all of the premium suites and icons?
Hippie
Reply #43 Thursday, July 8, 2004 9:49 PM
Reply #43 Thursday, July 8, 2004 9:49 PM
Forgot. I had so many problems with Object Dock, I took it off. Oh well.
SelfExiled
Reply #44 Thursday, July 8, 2004 9:55 PM
Reply #44 Thursday, July 8, 2004 9:55 PM
I agree, Object Dock has never been part of Object Desktop. But, now that there is a plus version, suddenly it should be part of it? I think the word "cheap" fits better than the word "greedy". You can always find someone to "poo" on a new great idea. All I can say is, "take me into the 22 century Stardock, I'm glad to be here for the ride". (Chas asks his boss for a raise tommorrow) 
Garoo
Reply #45 Thursday, July 8, 2004 10:17 PM
Reply #45 Thursday, July 8, 2004 10:17 PM
I think an everything-you-can-download(-but-games) ODNT Plus could be quite the good idea. But if you want to market it at $99, you better have big projects in the works at Stardock.
In my opinion, what would make most sense commercially would be to have an ODNT Light around $30-40 (with only the essentials: WB, WFX, IP, whatever you find acceptable to release for that price) and the full ODNT between $75 and $100. But I don't know how feasible it would be to get existing ODNT customers to accept it.
Context: I was an ODNT subscriber for one year two years ago, didn't renew because I was really strapped for cash last year, have been considering subscribing again for a couple of months now, am sincerely put off by the idea I'd have to purchase OD+ separately if I did, and would likely be ready to pay around $70-80 for an ODNT+ subscription.
In my opinion, what would make most sense commercially would be to have an ODNT Light around $30-40 (with only the essentials: WB, WFX, IP, whatever you find acceptable to release for that price) and the full ODNT between $75 and $100. But I don't know how feasible it would be to get existing ODNT customers to accept it.
Context: I was an ODNT subscriber for one year two years ago, didn't renew because I was really strapped for cash last year, have been considering subscribing again for a couple of months now, am sincerely put off by the idea I'd have to purchase OD+ separately if I did, and would likely be ready to pay around $70-80 for an ODNT+ subscription.
PhrozenMenace
Reply #46 Thursday, July 8, 2004 10:20 PM
Reply #46 Thursday, July 8, 2004 10:20 PM
all i gotta say is ..Object Desktop is Great, and its not like anyone is forcing anyone to buy the product, its either you want it or you dont, think of it dis way, if it was never offered, none of this woulda been going the way it is now..but ima stay out of this...i do have a question for frogboy though...i had purchased cursorxp plus and well you know how hotmail is..deleting mail like its anthrax infected.so due to that i had lost my product number or serial number for cursorxp plus...and everything i tried..i still couldnt get it back when i asked and sent some of my info to stardock support..can u help? thanks..i am actually looking foward to objectdock plus, but for now, i'll stay with the regular
Reble
Reply #47 Thursday, July 8, 2004 10:41 PM
Reply #47 Thursday, July 8, 2004 10:41 PM
Well, good thing i'm gonna be able to ask for some cash 2moz. Sweet, i'm buying this shit! w00t. And as for the guys moaning it not being in ODNT. you are one cheap sod, we all have to get paid aswell? pffff cheap sods...
smoke-tetsu
Reply #48 Thursday, July 8, 2004 10:47 PM
Reply #48 Thursday, July 8, 2004 10:47 PM
How about making it so a person can customize (choose) what programs are in their ODNT subscription?
Mav Phoenix
Reply #49 Thursday, July 8, 2004 10:51 PM
Reply #49 Thursday, July 8, 2004 10:51 PM
I think a video is in order to illustrate how cool and useful this is, Brad. 
Go SDTV!
Go SDTV!
erikwas
Reply #50 Thursday, July 8, 2004 11:04 PM
Reply #50 Thursday, July 8, 2004 11:04 PM
Well like a finely tuned "entrepreneur" get them hooked on the free stuff, give them a little, then once their hooked, create a bigger and better version with a markup and no longer support the freeware-has an idea where this is going-Hail the Almighty Dollar!
ScottyK
Reply #51 Thursday, July 8, 2004 11:08 PM
Reply #51 Thursday, July 8, 2004 11:08 PM
I think this argument over the cost of ODNT and the cost of ObjectDock is just silly. $50.00 for software of ANY kind these days is a really good deal (don't agree? look at how much anti-virus programs cost now - pretty close to $50.00, not really very functional either - it just does one thing). Personally I think the individual prices for the software is more than resonable. I'm talking 20 bucks for WB, 15 buck for IP, etc... the fact that you can get all of ODNT for just 50 bucks is astounding. What's more... you get FREE UPDATES! Can't say that about Norton can you?
Next - Stardock has been very clear from the beginning. ObjectDock is a free program that we are not going to continue to support, but here it is, it's pretty cool. NOW they have gone ahead and released a major update that fixed MOST of the bugs and that program is still free. But IN ADDITION, they decided to give back to the HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of Object Dock users by putting a LOT of EFFORT into developing the software into something that looks REMARKABLY IMPROVED. I for one am very willing and EAGER to PAY MORE MONEY to Stardock for a program that I LOVE and have had for free all this time. The best part is, even if you don't want to pay for it, you can still get the MORE STABLE UPDATED VERSION for FREE!
Way to go Brad et al! Thank you for keeping up the work on Object Dock. Though it may not be essential, it is certainly my favorite piece of wincustomize software.
ScottyK
Next - Stardock has been very clear from the beginning. ObjectDock is a free program that we are not going to continue to support, but here it is, it's pretty cool. NOW they have gone ahead and released a major update that fixed MOST of the bugs and that program is still free. But IN ADDITION, they decided to give back to the HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of Object Dock users by putting a LOT of EFFORT into developing the software into something that looks REMARKABLY IMPROVED. I for one am very willing and EAGER to PAY MORE MONEY to Stardock for a program that I LOVE and have had for free all this time. The best part is, even if you don't want to pay for it, you can still get the MORE STABLE UPDATED VERSION for FREE!
Way to go Brad et al! Thank you for keeping up the work on Object Dock. Though it may not be essential, it is certainly my favorite piece of wincustomize software.
ScottyK
paxx
Reply #52 Thursday, July 8, 2004 11:10 PM
Reply #52 Thursday, July 8, 2004 11:10 PM
Wow, looks amazing! And people, please.... Object Desktop costs 50$ the first year and then 35$/year to renew. And you get WindowBlinds, DesktopX, IconPackager, SkinStudio, WindowFX and a good dozen other very usefull programs. For 35 DOLLARS after the first year??? Come on now. It's a joke! Where else can you get so much for so little. And it's not enough? People want to have still more stuff in there? Now come on, who's being greedy? Besides, how much was Object Desktop last year? And the year before? And the year before that? When was the last time Object Desktop increased in price? Come on, let's get real! Man! Next time I buy a product with a 2 for the price of 1 promo on it, I'm gonna complain that I want 10 for the price of 1! Cause really, they are so greedy to only offer 2 for 1!
Oh! And I forgot to mention that Object Dock Plus seems so different from Object Dock that I don't understand why Stardock used the same name for it. They should have called it Dock Launchpad or something like that...
Oh! And I forgot to mention that Object Dock Plus seems so different from Object Dock that I don't understand why Stardock used the same name for it. They should have called it Dock Launchpad or something like that...
Brock Beesley
Reply #53 Thursday, July 8, 2004 11:22 PM
Reply #53 Thursday, July 8, 2004 11:22 PM
whine, whine, whine . . . it's a shame that people can't just keep their mouths shut if they have complaints. If you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all. If you don't want to spend the money, trying to voice your opinion about the measly $15 (or even $20) that it costs for the program isn't going to change anything. Brad, and the gang at Stardock, have to make a living. Do I like spending money to sup up my computer. Not necessarily. But I will gladly spend it if it's important enough to me. If it isn't, I won't buy it. We all have a choice. Let's just make it and keep quiet about it.
IMO, I'm excited about this and say "Hat's off" to your continued creativity, not just for great products, but for great performance and user-friendly applications.
Blessings.
IMO, I'm excited about this and say "Hat's off" to your continued creativity, not just for great products, but for great performance and user-friendly applications.
Blessings.
DesignCaddy
Reply #55 Thursday, July 8, 2004 11:25 PM
Reply #55 Thursday, July 8, 2004 11:25 PM
curious if this will have a trial... i was looking at nextStart, but this looks like it could easily be a shell/browsing enhancement, with those fly out menus. i'd like to check it out
bussie
Reply #57 Friday, July 9, 2004 12:35 AM
Reply #57 Friday, July 9, 2004 12:35 AM
This Object Dock Pluslooks very good!
This will replace TLP on my PC soon.
My credit-card is waiting for the purchase today
I agree with paxx.
People, all the things that you get on Object Desktop for $50 first year and $ 35 for each renewing year is just a bargain.
I think the price for OD+ is worth it. Many companies charge much more money for products that can do a lot less.
This will replace TLP on my PC soon.
My credit-card is waiting for the purchase today
I agree with paxx.
People, all the things that you get on Object Desktop for $50 first year and $ 35 for each renewing year is just a bargain.
I think the price for OD+ is worth it. Many companies charge much more money for products that can do a lot less.
Attila
Reply #58 Friday, July 9, 2004 12:47 AM
Reply #58 Friday, July 9, 2004 12:47 AM
Rather than reposting, I'll just link to it: http://draginol.joeuser.com/articleComments.asp?AID=20541
Hopefully, that can be my last post on this issue for awhile. To those who mentioned "Now that there is a plus version, suddenly it should be part of it (ObjectDesktop)?" You're correct, however, ObjectDock wasn't purchasable until now either. I was content when all that was available was the freeware version because it was readily available to everyone. Now a decission has been made to distribute a high-end version and charge for it, but not include ODNT members as the beneficiary of the enhanced version. I keep mentioning ODNT because it is marketed specifically as the flagship utility from Stardock that encompasses "Object" & "Desktop" enhancement tools. What marketing sense does it make to provide a tool titled "Object"Whatever outside of the "ObjectDesktop" compilation? That's a rhetorical question, we've already established the answer above.
Hopefully, that can be my last post on this issue for awhile. To those who mentioned "Now that there is a plus version, suddenly it should be part of it (ObjectDesktop)?" You're correct, however, ObjectDock wasn't purchasable until now either. I was content when all that was available was the freeware version because it was readily available to everyone. Now a decission has been made to distribute a high-end version and charge for it, but not include ODNT members as the beneficiary of the enhanced version. I keep mentioning ODNT because it is marketed specifically as the flagship utility from Stardock that encompasses "Object" & "Desktop" enhancement tools. What marketing sense does it make to provide a tool titled "Object"Whatever outside of the "ObjectDesktop" compilation? That's a rhetorical question, we've already established the answer above.
CarpeThis
Reply #59 Friday, July 9, 2004 1:04 AM
Reply #59 Friday, July 9, 2004 1:04 AM
I don't work for free and I suspect that most of you don't work for free either. (some probably don't work at all...)
Code development, especially good code development, takes time and money. Why are you expecting something for free? Stardock has never promised or even implied that ObjectDock would be part of ObjectDesktop. That being said, Brad has made a nice gesture of giving ObjectDesktop subscribers a discount and seems interested in considering other types of product bundling/subscriptions that would be a win/win for Stardock and their customers. With constant updates, as Stardock has done with their other products, $20 or $15 for ObjectDock+ is a bargain. If you don't think so, don't buy it...
Code development, especially good code development, takes time and money. Why are you expecting something for free? Stardock has never promised or even implied that ObjectDock would be part of ObjectDesktop. That being said, Brad has made a nice gesture of giving ObjectDesktop subscribers a discount and seems interested in considering other types of product bundling/subscriptions that would be a win/win for Stardock and their customers. With constant updates, as Stardock has done with their other products, $20 or $15 for ObjectDock+ is a bargain. If you don't think so, don't buy it...
Aquamonkey
Reply #60 Friday, July 9, 2004 1:07 AM
Reply #60 Friday, July 9, 2004 1:07 AM
I agree with Attila's comments. I have ODNT and would like to see OD+ as part of it, however if there is a trial version of it and I find it good to use I'll probably pay this small amount for it. On the other side I use Tab Launchpad on ODNT and it does a great job, it just doesn't look as flashy as OD+ in tabbed view.
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Reply #41 Thursday, July 8, 2004 9:46 PM