Saddam Captured!
Sunday, December 14, 2003 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize News
Reply #62 Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:53 PM
about all this..Great skinning site, let's just leave it at that.
Reply #64 Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:03 PM
My country hase'nt won a war in my life time Korea Vietnam Somalia Gulf war. We may have bombed the Heck out of civilians a bunch of times but any bully can kick up an ant's nest. To realy get rid of all the ants takes the willingness to get on your knees and squish them one by one'nasty work.
Hey Wildcraft your one crazy canuck but you are right about GW and his crew.
Reply #66 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:49 AM
Reply #67 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:03 PM
Reply #68 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:12 PM
Would make sense because u treat the invaded like animals..
Reply #69 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:20 PM
Comme toujours ils ont cru faire une bonne affaire financière avec leurs grosses rangers mais ils vont encore l'avoir dans l'os comme au VietNam, en Iran, au Liban etc.. A force, leurs patriotisme au jus de religion énerve bien plus que les démonstrations viriles de Saddam.
Quant à ceux qui pensent que je devrais poster en allemand si il n'y avait pas eu les américains en 44, je rapelle qu'ils ne se sont pas trop pressés pour aider le monde libre (un peu comme pour la Bosnie) et qu'au bout d'un certain temps, il a fallu leur foutre un bon coup de pied au cul pour qu'ils repartent sinon ils seraient encore à faire les crétins dans notre espace aérien comme en Italie.
Reply #70 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 1:01 PM
Des arguments bien placés mais aucune personne américain peut les lire..
D'hommage non ?
Reply #71 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:13 PM
This has turned into quite a pathetic thread...what a shame that human beings from all over the world can stoop to such levels as some of these comments show. I guess this is how wars get started.
How Sad

Reply #72 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:08 PM
As an American I can fully understand the concept of doing what is best for AMERICA first and then what is best for the world as long as it doesn't hurt America. I can also understand non-American citizens' anger over that attitude. What I can't understand is non-Americans not understanding America's attitude. The French, English, Greeks, Italians (Romans), Jews, Chinese, Japanese have all had their day and when it was their day they had the same attitude we do today. The primary difference is that when it was their day after a long day of conquest, murder, rape and pillaging they brought the conquered back home as slaves. Has anyone any solid information about American's raping and pillaging after conquest? We'll leave murder out because the definition of murder during wartime tends to become a little subjective. No, we do not see such information because it isn't happening. Instead we see American soldiers building schools, repairing infrastructure, providing food and medicine, doctors and teachers, training and money. Can anyone show me another country in the history of the world that rebuilt the conquered and returned the country to it's people after it was no longer a threat to it's own? Germany is run by Germans last I checked. The rest of the European Allied nations were helped, supported and then accepted as equals in spite of their debt they owed and still owe as far as I'm concerned.
Those of you who hate America so much, why is it that so many people from the rest of the world, from every country, religion, gov't structure, etc. is beating a path to our door? We may not be perfect, in fact far from it. We have however shown a history of learning from our mistakes albeit sometimes slowly and we have been accepting of all peoples whether they are willing to accept us and our ways or not.
The fact still remains that the UN for over 10 years has called Saddam Hussein a monster, a butcher, a murderer of his own people, a dictator not to be trusted and other wonderful accolades. Over 60 nations in the UN have signed on to this endeavor and yet America is the bad guy. Like Mr. Barton said, we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. Or in the words of Christ, We played the flute for you and you did not dance, we sang a dirge for you and you did not mourn.
Again, for the right or wrong reasons, we did the right thing.
Reply #73 Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:15 PM
I imagine we'll see a lot worse from dictators and terrorists once the check of the US police department is removed from their neighborhoods.
Reply #74 Thursday, December 18, 2003 4:36 AM
OL.But we don't need you. Euro > $
.You can quit UN. Before, you need to pay youre debt in the organisation.
Reply #75 Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:37 AM
BTW, I've seen a comment or two about the US not following the UN and the WTO rulings. When they are not in conflict with the US constitution and the interest's of our own sovereignty we have followed them. The UN and the WTO however have repeatedly and deliberately implemented rulings that are in direct conflict with the US Constitution and the American way of life.
Reply #76 Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:15 AM

And blocus against Cuba or Iraq population you might think too !
If the litle oligarchy who lead US and the petrol intersets has't yet rob one barrel of oil it's simply beacause iraqy population is stil here for protect it.
For us contribution since WW1 thank's but I can read history books that remenber that US was in war after Pearl harbor. And the war was not only win by GI but also UK and Russia (and their were in the conflic since the bigining.
For the cold war, I beg your pardon but France was not in NATo and got his own weapon.
US was in somalia, yugoslavia and Haîti. But others contries so. France has loosen more soldier in yugoslavia (Bosnia in fact) than all other countries. Soldier in ground. Faces to danger, not with F 117. You must know what I mean since GI are in Bagdad.
For the price of oil. It's not a problem. In Europe the price is much more expensive than in states almost 1.5 $ fot a liter. ten pence more or less... It's not an excuse for boarded another state and lying like Bush lie about Iraky NBC weapon.
And Ben laden (ex CIA creature), what do you do for arrest him ? Is some barrel has made you lose your memory ?
Reply #77 Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:26 AM
president since G. Ford.In all the world, people think "what is this poor things ? The president of the USA ? Berk !;
The man who .... the poll in FLORIDA ?"
Please. Change it. This man is very dangerous

Reply #78 Friday, December 19, 2003 11:57 AM
I'm sure UNICEF is a worthy organization. I'm referring more to One-World type rulings that would take rights and freedoms away from American citizens. Such as, the right to keep and bear personal arms, the freedom to drive the vehicle of our choice, the exorbitant overpricing of gasoline, the sole purpose of which is to make it more expensive for people to use. The fact that our gasoline is cheaper than the rest of the world's only means that you are paying too much. Given the choice, most people will choose to drive the larger, nicer and better appointed vehicle. Yes there are a few self-righteous people who willingly choose to deprive themselves by purchasing and driving tiny, efficient but uncomfortable, impractical and dangerous vehicles in the name of "saving the environment". Every other year there is a new study out showing that humankind has very little to no effect on the ozone layer, weather patterns or overall state of the environment. But I digress. The principal topic of our discussion was Saddam and Iraq.
In regards to the US being involved in WWII only after Pearl Harbor, remember, our war at that time could have been only with Japan. Instead we chose to also get involved in Europe. Yes, Russia, England, France and others were involved as well but don't forget too that France was already in German hands and England was taking one heck of a beating as well. Many agree that if the US had not gotten involved taking Germany's attention away from Russia England would have fallen as well in spite of Churchill's 'to the last man' speech. As far as Russia is concerned, perhaps Germany had the right idea at the time. Remember Communism anyone?
Regarding France and NATO; I beg Your pardon but I never stated that France was in NATO. Merely that Europe owed a debt that has so far been paid in a large part with ungratefulness.
Regarding France's participation in Bosnia/Yugoslavia. Is it safe to assume that you are French? I notice a slight defensiveness when it comes to France. Please keep in mind that I am not a French basher as I am 1/4 French myself. As an American however I do feel anger that France (and Germany), did not become more involved and as a matter of fact was quite obstructionist in UN involvement in Iraq. Was it because of France's heavy economic investment in Iraq? How about the fact that Iraq had a great deal of French arms? Or perhaps the fact that France was involved in trade of materials to Iraq that was banned by the UN?
As for faces to danger in battle. Remember, it is not a soldier's duty to die for his country, rather it is to make the enemy's soldiers die for his. A paraphrase of a quote by General George S. Patton, to give credit where it is due. While the French are dying brave, we are fighting smart.
Regarding the price of oil, again, the fact that we pay less for it just means you are paying too much.
And as for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program, whether we received bad intelligence or whether the arms truly did/do exist remains to be seen. There is some speculation that the arms remain buried to be unearther later, that the arms may have been secreted to a friendly nation for safe keeping, (Syria perhaps), or that perhaps they were still only in the development stage.
A secondary purpose for our involvement in Iraq is to deal directly with the Arab people instead of power hungry often cruel dictators. If we can make Iraq a prosperous democratic nation ruled by it's people instead of a dictatorial madman, perhaps the rest of the Arab world will see that America is not the enemy or the 'Great Satan' after all. We are now giving the Arab people an opportunity to recreate itself just as we did in the American Revolution and you did in the French Revolution. Instead of griping about the terrible things that the US has done, and don't you do that every time the US steps in somewhere?, give us a chance to do what we did for Germany, Japan, the USSR and many other countries.
I hope now that Saddam has been captured that the Iraqi people will begin to stand up for themselves and start creating their own nation, friendly to the US but independent from it. Apparently they feel shame that they had to be liberated rather than doing it themselves. Well, OK. What are they going to do about it now though?
When it comes to bin Laden, the fact that he has not been caught yet means nothing. We will now be focusing more attention on that matter I'm sure. Remember too, he may have been killed during bombing runs and buried under tons of rock. I'm sure that the US's detractors will claim convenience should that turn out to be the case. Apparently there are tapes out there showing him to still be alive. If that is the case, it's only a matter of time. We did find Hussein.
And finally, Bush dangerous? Not to the American people? And not to the world I think. The world sees what the American media wants it to see and the American media is anti-Bush in it's philosophy and reporting. Bush did not steal the election as I think you are implying. Rather, the Gore machine and the Florida Supreme Court attempted to rewrite the US Constitution in order to get their man in. The US Supreme Court finally had to step in and put a stop to it. The Gore machine did everything it could to invalidate the election by cheap tricks, illegal maneuvering and manipulation of the media. Not only did Gore lose the election fair and square, he also lost his own home state of Tennessee. The media was also complicit in Florida when in the middle of the afternoon of election day declared Gore the winner in Florida attempting to discourage Bush voters from even turning out.
Bush is only dangerous to terrorists, Communists and Socialists who feel that big government is the answer to the world's problems. Government has never "given" anything to anyone. It has only taken from one and redistributed to another. Government doesn't have anything to give other than a structure for the redistribution of wealth.
Reply #79 Friday, December 19, 2003 6:17 PM
What do you expect us to believe ??
Reply #80 Friday, December 19, 2003 6:24 PM
Did'nt The Us fill up Their base in cuba with captives.UK Canadian and American.Have you ever herd of the Tiger force in Vietnam.They had their own Melie every day over there.
The reasone people are beating down the door to get into the US is the same as every were elts MONEY.The US is'nt even in the top 5 countrys people try to imigrate to.
It would be great to see the US close it's borders then maybe you'd stop raring the third world for it's resources.
As for GW being dangerouse 'would'nt getting your nation deeper and deeper into debt or promoting the Patriot mistle defence system that has NEVER worked dangerouse or how bout all the sick GIs from DU or the bad vaccinations his family company has been dolling out or how about the fact that when the Un first wanted to cut Iraq off from their US chemical supliers after it was found that Iraq might be gassing Iranians His Daddy personaly shock his hand and gave him the OK and vetoed the UN.Or how about the fact that the Bush and Ben laden family are hand in hand and have been for years on and on.
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