Something I bet you didn't know about....

Well, I didn't....

Tuesday, May 11, 2010 by DrJBHL | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

This is a source of concern which I didn't know about until I saw this video clip which a friend emailed me.

I wonder how many of the machines used to copy your data...tax forms, health records, checks... well the list goes on and on... and how about the government, military, etc. are being sent who knows where without those HDD's being wiped?

I wonder who uses these "formerly owned or rented" copying machines now?

Also...there's not too damned much any of us can do about it, even if we did know.

 

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Heigar
Reply #1 Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:51 PM

Holy crap!! What an eye opener, Thanks for sharing DrJBHL!

PurrBall
Reply #2 Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:05 PM

I'm surprised nobody knew about this earlier- just don't copy sensitive information on non-personal scanners!

Wizard1956
Reply #3 Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:06 PM

You win that bet.  That's news to me as well.

teddybearcholla
Reply #4 Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:18 PM

Holy crap it right!!! 

I'm surprised nobody knew about this earlier- just don't copy sensitive information on non-personal scanners!
    From this video am concerned about what my Doctor, my insurance company and my bank are doing with sensitive information they copy.   

Thank you Doc.

DrJBHL
Reply #5 Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:23 PM

PurrBall
I'm surprised nobody knew about this earlier- just don't copy sensitive information on non-personal scanners!

Ummm...and what about people in Insurance Co.'s, I.R.S., Banks, M.D.'s offices, etc. who copy your files to send on to other offices? Think about that one, Purrball.

*edit...sorry Barb....I type slowly...and with the errors I make, thank G-d I don't work entering data/orders at the stock exchange....

starkers
Reply #6 Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:25 PM

This is something I've made mention of here in Oz... to various doctors surgeries, banks and social security, etc.  For the most part it fell on deaf ears... and those who were prepared to listen, well in most cases their hands were tied by employers and/or bureaucratic red tape.  So now, if I think somebody needs photo copies of anything, I generally make my own at home and take them with me.  Still, if they decide to copy my copies at a later point, my security measures are nevertheless undone, aren't they!

You'd think, though, with identity theft running rampant, you'd think those responsible for these machines would be especially careful, and if not, be liable for any security breaches.  As far as the Buffalo PD goes, and the data on its discarded machines, what about the vigilante type groups and lynch mobs who are keen to gain information on offenders (alleged or otherwise) to administer their own kind of justice??  That kind of security neglect could quite easily lead to dangerous situations and possibly innocent people getting hurt, or worse.

On a lighter note: think about how many Xeroxed backsides and boobies there'd be floating around on discarded office copiers.

Now there's an idea for a business venture... go 'round and collect all those bum and boob images and turn them into cash, via DVD's and books, etc.

RedneckDude
Reply #7 Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:56 PM

Dang Doc, thanks for sharing!!!

DaveRI
Reply #8 Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:10 AM

Well that's pretty pathetic.

Seems like that "option" package with the wipe capability shouldn't be an "option", it should just be built in.  I know they said it was something like $500, but if they just built it in at the factory instead of as an add-on it probably wouldn't really add that much to the price.

'Course I would've thought that the oil industry might have given some thought to "How To Plug An Offshore Leak" before they started poking holes in the ocean floor, too.  I'm funny that way.  Guess they just figured they could drop an oversized brick on it or something.

2of3
Reply #9 Wednesday, May 12, 2010 5:09 AM

Seems like that "option" package with the wipe capability shouldn't be an "option", it should just be built in. I know they said it was something like $500, but if they just built it in at the factory instead of as an add-on it probably wouldn't really add that much to the price.

I totally agree.

This is very disturbing and thanks for the warning, Doc

Disturbedcomputer
Reply #10 Wednesday, May 12, 2010 5:45 AM

I am glad I know about this now ... thinkg about the criminals that might be getting a hold of your bank, credit card info ETC. .....

 

natas2
Reply #11 Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:06 AM

The company I work for removes the HHD's before sending the copy machines back to the owner.  They don't like it, but we pay for them and we destroy them on site.  I also have my own copy machine/printer/scanner/fax at home and never use public copiers.  That doesn't help me as far as my medical, dental and any other records I don't have personal control over though.  And if there were criminals out there that didn't know about this...well, they sure do now don't they.  Score another one for the media.

DrJBHL
Reply #12 Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:22 AM

You're welcome, guys 'n girls. When I saw this my jaw broke as it hit the floor at mach 2.

What bothers me the most is that the expose that CBS did changed nothing as far as I can see. Here in the States the HIPPA legislation makes such violations quite expensive.

Somehow, I doubt they'll go after the copy machine makers. It'll be the Doctors who get it in the neck. Not this one, though. I'll be busy figuring out a way to protect my patients and myself.

WOM
Reply #13 Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:56 AM

Interesting, didn't know or even think about that.  Wonder if these new copy/fax/scan printers do the same.

Quicksilver007
Reply #14 Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:39 AM

Scary, didn't know that, thanks doc!!

natas2
Reply #15 Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:07 AM

Wonder if these new copy/fax/scan printers do the same

Of course they do.  It has to store that image somewhere.

Phoon
Reply #16 Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:10 AM

Now what's worse.

Since this aired I would bet that there will be a substantial increase of identity thefts occur due to the unintentional education that this provided.

 That big boatload that went to Argentina has me concerned.

 

RPGFX
Reply #17 Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:11 AM

Wow, congrats to CBS news for letting the cat out of the bag!  Now all the criminals who didn't know about this DO!!  Yay!

RedneckDude
Reply #18 Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:16 AM

natas2

Wonder if these new copy/fax/scan printers do the same


Of course they do.  It has to store that image somewhere.

On the PC, probably. I doubt my $300.00 Epson Artisan has a hard drive.

natas2
Reply #19 Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:20 AM

On the PC, probably. I doubt my $300.00 Epson Artisan has a hard drive.

Epson. *shudder*

 

But I bet it has memory.  Now is the memory volatile or non-volatile?  Dunno, nobody reviews that type of shite.

RedneckDude
Reply #20 Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:46 AM

Epson. *shudder*

 

 

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