An alternative way of doing Boot Screens

Thursday, October 9, 2003 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize News

So people obviously want boot screens. But there's a big problem with the way boot screens are currently being (ahem) "skinned":


Everyone of them we've seen so far does it one of two ways:


Either:


A) They actually distribute the Windows XP kernel. In fact, this is what most of those boot screens being distributed are. Inside the ZIP they contain the actual kernel for both XP release and SP1. Not only is this pretty flagrantly in violation of who knows what but it also causes the file to be much bigger. Here's a hint, if the boot screen is roughly 2.2 megs, or higher in a ZIP file it's probably got the XP kernel in it.


or


They contain just the images (good) but then patch the kernel on your computer (bad). What happens when SP2 comes out and the machine fails a kernel CRC? The better boot patchers save a copy of the kernel (good). But that's still a bit much for the average joe.


But if boot screen replacing is as popular as the polls seem to indicate, there needs to be a safer, more robust system.


So we talked to people we know at Microsoft about an idea we had. What if we could do it without touching the kernel? In fact, what if we could do it without touching the kernel and then add support for animated boot screens? High color boot screens? All without having to hack the system?


We've figured out a way and hopefully will have a freeware version available (beta at first) that will take us down the path as early as next week possibly.


Stardock's "Furan" is working on this now. Check out his blog here: http://ian.joeuser.com/index.asp?AID=409

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Judge
Reply #1 Thursday, October 9, 2003 10:49 PM
You're going to make a lot of people very happy
Brock Beesley
Reply #2 Thursday, October 9, 2003 11:08 PM
Sounds so great. Appreciate the integrity! Blessings!
Surj
Reply #3 Thursday, October 9, 2003 11:34 PM
very interesting, hope you pull it off
Aleatoric
Reply #4 Thursday, October 9, 2003 11:39 PM
That's very cool!

Look forward to trying it out!
stark23x
Reply #5 Thursday, October 9, 2003 11:58 PM
Very coo., I can't wait. Stardock comes through again!
Sugaree
Reply #6 Friday, October 10, 2003 12:12 AM
blah...you see a BootScreen for what? 2, 3 seconds? Why oh Why are there so many retarded people in this world?

Grfx Guru
Reply #7 Friday, October 10, 2003 12:15 AM
Nice idea, and look forward to seeing where this takes us. Wouldn't it be nice if we could have animated logon's too
BoXXi
Reply #8 Friday, October 10, 2003 12:44 AM
WOW! a Stardock bootscreen app? I can't wait!
Rahul
Reply #9 Friday, October 10, 2003 1:49 AM
2-3 seconds...is that a lot less? Isn't ejaculation just a matter of seconds?? Then why do people crave for that!!!
Retarded people..Hmmm...look who is talking.
murassmeblade
Reply #10 Friday, October 10, 2003 2:05 AM
this is awesome, id like to add that this should be implemented as a feature of logonStudio in the future
mdloafer
Reply #11 Friday, October 10, 2003 2:07 AM
I must have missed something...so then how does LogonStudio do it? Isn't that also a Stardock program? And if so, why not just improve LogonStudio?
HaLLuCiNO
Reply #12 Friday, October 10, 2003 2:24 AM
Yeah China♥Cat I wondered the same about you If you don't have something nice to say, then don't. They are doing it because "they can" and it will be free, so stop your yapping.
DBS0849
Reply #13 Friday, October 10, 2003 2:24 AM
How bout W2K?
neophil78
Reply #14 Friday, October 10, 2003 4:21 AM
as i said in the WC Poll's discussion, WinCustomize should be renamed as XPCustomize ...
sig101
Reply #15 Friday, October 10, 2003 4:28 AM
I don't understand that why people who evidently have no interest in something take shots at people who do. Why bother changing bootscreens? Why bother changing logons, skinning or customizing anything at all? It's rather odd to see such a putdown on a company's site whose existence depends on people skinning and customizing components of their OS rather than just using the out of the box GUI. Clearly some people like to have the option to customize as much as they can. It's those kind of "retards" that provide Stardock with an income and make this site available for us to use.

Back on topic, that's cool news Brad. A technological challenge and accomplishment.
DigitalCHET
Reply #16 Friday, October 10, 2003 4:46 AM
Maybe everyone should stop customizing everything they own and become the mindless clones society would have us be.

Anyhow, I look forward to seeing how you guys pull it off.
neophil78
Reply #17 Friday, October 10, 2003 5:39 AM
sig101, maybe some people are waiting first to get fixed main softs customization for their OS ...
Urban1
Reply #18 Friday, October 10, 2003 6:07 AM
very good idea, i wanted to mess with this but it is not so easy when you have to get to the kernel, I will wait for this, it will be intresting to see
craeonics
Reply #19 Friday, October 10, 2003 7:52 AM
Sounds good to me. Interesting to see what will come out of it. An app that runs alongside with the kernel at boot time?
hashonboat
Reply #20 Friday, October 10, 2003 8:16 AM
I'll definitely try it out. It may only be a few seconds but it's another cool thing we can do to make our computer like our cars. We customize everything on our cars, even the undercarriage which you rarely see. If we can do this without messing with the kernel then I'm all for it! You go for it Furan!

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