Dangeruss Industries goes "open sources"!
Friday, September 13, 2002 by treetog | Discussion: WinCustomize News
The master of masters, Russ Schwenkler, aka Dangeruss just did it again!He just relaunched DungerussIndustries.com in great style, giving us many fantastic news!
As many of you know, Russ is is not just a great skinner(the best, in my particular opinion), but he is also a true 3D and 2D artist, having a huge experience on 3D Studio Max and Autocad.
On a total revolucionary way, now, he is offering us to use his graphics for us to make skins and themes, can you imagine that?
Of course you will need to follow some rules for that, but they are really simple.
Make him a visit and and enjoy his wonderful talent
KenLin
Reply #2 Friday, September 13, 2002 8:04 PM
Reply #2 Friday, September 13, 2002 8:04 PM
Coolness. Would this be the DPL? Dangeruss Public License. 
bakerstreet
Reply #3 Friday, September 13, 2002 11:44 PM
Reply #3 Friday, September 13, 2002 11:44 PM
I am both happy with what Russ has done and apprehensive as to how it will be used. He has, himself, benefited from the generosity of other artists many times, and it shows a great deal of character that he is willing to return that generosity. Russ has been kind to me in the past, and I have richly benefited from being acquainted with him.
As we have seen in the Open Source community, however, this *can* be a gift that some can begin to feel entitled to. Just as Open Sourcing an application is a gesture on the part of the developer, I think this is a gracious gesture, and not the 'Right Thing To Do' in every situation. I have no doubt that Russ' generosity will be preyed upon, and I fear that some people may come to believe that this is the spirit the whole community should embrace, and use that as an excuse to steal graphics. That argument has been made so many times already by rippers that it is almost inescapable here.
On various sites sub-communities of 'artists' thrive on the concept that as long as they give away what they make, they can use anything they like. I have seen them go so far as to say legal copyright is only valid in commercial enterprise, and that if they give their wallpapers and skins away, it doesn't matter whose work they use. This misapprehension in an individual is annoying, but in large groups it can be catastrophic to an artist's body of work. We only have what we make, that's it. If people give those images away there is no commodity left. Commercial photographers are horribly abused on many of the sites in our community in this way.
If this is used as a learning experience by those who use Russ' graphics, then it will spawn many great skinners. I have often called them 'constructors', people who are part of our community that don't enjoy making graphics, but love putting skins together. They can be of immense benefit to our art as a whole, a necessity, even. Those of shallow-ethics can be painfully destructive as well.
I think he has done an admirable thing, and I applaud his 'giving back'. This should, though, provoke an even more fervent response to those that abuse such generosity. The tolerance of 'borrowing' without permission at this point should drop to sub-zero levels.
As we have seen in the Open Source community, however, this *can* be a gift that some can begin to feel entitled to. Just as Open Sourcing an application is a gesture on the part of the developer, I think this is a gracious gesture, and not the 'Right Thing To Do' in every situation. I have no doubt that Russ' generosity will be preyed upon, and I fear that some people may come to believe that this is the spirit the whole community should embrace, and use that as an excuse to steal graphics. That argument has been made so many times already by rippers that it is almost inescapable here.
On various sites sub-communities of 'artists' thrive on the concept that as long as they give away what they make, they can use anything they like. I have seen them go so far as to say legal copyright is only valid in commercial enterprise, and that if they give their wallpapers and skins away, it doesn't matter whose work they use. This misapprehension in an individual is annoying, but in large groups it can be catastrophic to an artist's body of work. We only have what we make, that's it. If people give those images away there is no commodity left. Commercial photographers are horribly abused on many of the sites in our community in this way.
If this is used as a learning experience by those who use Russ' graphics, then it will spawn many great skinners. I have often called them 'constructors', people who are part of our community that don't enjoy making graphics, but love putting skins together. They can be of immense benefit to our art as a whole, a necessity, even. Those of shallow-ethics can be painfully destructive as well.
I think he has done an admirable thing, and I applaud his 'giving back'. This should, though, provoke an even more fervent response to those that abuse such generosity. The tolerance of 'borrowing' without permission at this point should drop to sub-zero levels.
AquaJack
Reply #5 Sunday, September 15, 2002 7:28 AM
Reply #5 Sunday, September 15, 2002 7:28 AM
WOW ...i'm speachless. I didn't know Russ did other artwork besides skinning, but after visiting both his site and his gallery over at deviantart....i got to say that his work is by far the BEST I"VE EVER SEEn .....absolutely AMAZING!!!
Russ, if u read this, i just wont to let you know that u TRUELY are the "GOD OF 3D"
...i'm sure you probebly hear that alot, but it just HAS to be said. Your artistic abilities in both digital art and photography is truely breath-taking.
AND on top of all this, you are now giving away your art to help others. What can I say...
Russ, if u read this, i just wont to let you know that u TRUELY are the "GOD OF 3D"
...i'm sure you probebly hear that alot, but it just HAS to be said. Your artistic abilities in both digital art and photography is truely breath-taking. AND on top of all this, you are now giving away your art to help others. What can I say...
Dangeruss
Reply #6 Sunday, September 15, 2002 9:05 PM
Reply #6 Sunday, September 15, 2002 9:05 PM
AquaJack, Thankd for your comments! I'll try not to let the God of 3D crown go to my head... much 
c242
Reply #7 Monday, September 16, 2002 2:16 AM
Reply #7 Monday, September 16, 2002 2:16 AM
Great work Russ, although I find it a pity that Your skins aren't on Your site anymore. 
Jafo
Reply #8 Monday, September 16, 2002 8:26 PM
Reply #8 Monday, September 16, 2002 8:26 PM
Yes, it as a fact of life that Russ's artistic skills are better than his mountain-biking ones...
If he crashed and burned as much in graphics he'd have poked his eye out with a pen by now...
Baker...I doubt I could get much more 'fervent'...
If he crashed and burned as much in graphics he'd have poked his eye out with a pen by now...
Baker...I doubt I could get much more 'fervent'...
Tarkus
Reply #9 Tuesday, September 17, 2002 1:31 AM
Reply #9 Tuesday, September 17, 2002 1:31 AM
That is great news. It was Russ' early work that primarily first got me interested in WB and skinning in general. Even after all this time, his work really stands out.
Thanks, Russ!
Thanks, Russ!
Dangeruss
Reply #10 Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:49 AM
Reply #10 Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:49 AM
Jafo - Hmpf. You'd be pleased to know that I finished in the top 10 (7th)in my first MTB race this season. I managed to avoid those sudden gusts of gravity, plus I was very familiar with the venue. 
Jafo
Reply #11 Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:44 PM
Reply #11 Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:44 PM
Russ...so those trainer wheels really work then?....
Must have been a drag having mum run beside you holding your hand...
[Just kidding, mate]...
Must have been a drag having mum run beside you holding your hand...
[Just kidding, mate]...
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Reply #1 Friday, September 13, 2002 6:53 PM