rating system

Monday, February 8, 2010 by Vampothika | Discussion: WinCustomize 2011 Feedback

i still think the rating system should be scrapped (as it was said it was going to be) because its just being abused currently by people who get their sick thrills out of downgrading skin ratings.........

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gmc2
Reply #41 Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:37 AM

damn Karen,

Look -- some are abusing the current system; down-rating a skin will lead to less downloads

in it for the right reasons at least, I see.

I held back from commenting on the thread in the first place cause I don't really care about the ratings. It's subjective, meaning those that rate are giving their opinion based on their "whatever". the rating system doesn't appear to be perfect, and so what, nothing is perfect.

but it does seem to have a humbling quality and now I have an opinion and think that is a good thing. I'd even like to see the number of stars increased from 5 to 10. I think the overall rating and user rating should be in the same increment set.

k10w3
Reply #42 Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:40 PM

in it for the right reasons at least, I see.


What do you mean by that?  Throttling someone's work because you personally don't care for that person, or you don't care for something that person said in the forums about something totally unrelated to skinning, isn't promoting the skinning community, and promoting the skinning community is, from my understanding, what this website is all about.

 

loukeeya
Reply #43 Saturday, February 13, 2010 1:29 PM

if i like a skin i always give top rating coz i appreciate the hard work gone into creating them, even if its not to my taste i would still give top rating for the same reason. as a novice i absolutely admire all peoples work coz it takes time and creativity and a lot of it is beyond my capability so congrats to all i say  

frankell
Reply #44 Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:13 PM

Could they fix it so the mods rating is the minimum and it could only be rated "up"?

Vampothika
Reply #45 Saturday, February 13, 2010 4:18 PM

you did say, "because its just being abused currently by people who get their sick thrills out of downgrading skin ratings........."

if that's the case....

yep I did say that, because its whats happening, doesnt mean I need to take it to a mod, and nowhere did I mention my own name.

Vampothika
Reply #46 Saturday, February 13, 2010 4:21 PM

you did say, "because its just being abused currently by people who get their sick thrills out of downgrading skin ratings........."

if that's the case....

yep I did say that, because its whats happening, doesnt mean I need to take it to a mod, and nowhere did I mention my own name.

gmc2
Reply #47 Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:09 PM

Vampothika

you did say, "because its just being abused currently by people who get their sick thrills out of downgrading skin ratings........."

if that's the case....


yep I did say that, because its whats happening, doesnt mean I need to take it to a mod, and nowhere did I mention my own name.

 

PoSmedley
Reply #48 Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:37 PM

Could they fix it so the mods rating is the minimum and it could only be rated "up"?[/quote]

That would be an assumption that the mods 'test' every single skin that comes through, whcih there is probably not the time or people for. My understanding though is that that the mods rating carries more 'weight' than say a citizen, apprentice, or anyone else. This also gives them the ability to starighten out any alleged 'abuse' of the ratings system with a single vote. To put it roughly.

[/quote]if that's the case....

The case is simple. Some folks have first hand experience of the ratings system being abused. Yes, it isn't perfect. No, the mods ability to monitor every putz out there with an agenda isn't perfect either. So some folks would just like to see it gone.

It's kind of..what's the word...'subjective'. Like when some yo-yo wants to take a skin from an 8 to a 1 simply because said yo-yo doesn't like the color and gives no thought to the quality or craftsmanship. Where someone more responsible and mature may have a more mature, thought out, and knowledgable reason for lowering the rating that is not based on the taste in their mouth.

She stated her gripe, with explanation (which is more than can be said for a lot of people who rate a skin whether with some thought to it or a personal agenda) with the rating system and that she would like to see it gone. She didn't say she wanted gone simply because she couldn't get the ratings she would like.

JTOL, why you feel the need to  spin it (especially when it's a bit straight forward to spin) or show us that you know how to use the emotes in such a mature manner is beyond me. But I'm just being subjective.

Jafo
Reply #49 Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:41 PM

Like when some yo-yo wants to take a skin from an 8 to a 1 simply because said yo-yo doesn't like the color and gives no thought to the quality or craftsmanship

'Some yo-yo' can want to...but he/she does not have the capacity to do so.

Only yo-yos at Admin level can do that....

PoSmedley
Reply #50 Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:52 PM

'Some yo-yo' can want to.

Only yo-yos at Admin level can do that.

yeah-yeah

gmc2
Reply #51 Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:47 PM

JTOL, why you feel the need to spin it (especially when it's a bit straight forward to spin) or show us that you know how to use the emotes in such a mature manner is beyond me. But I'm just being subjective.

I'm sorry, did I post something you didn't like, PO baby.

first of all, the rating example of 8 to 1 was just that, an example, I rate responsibly but don't just give away 5 stars.

secondly, when Kitty mentioned that this was not about her I sort of had a idea whom all this might be referring towards so..

  is this about what I think it is.

 why did I ever respond.

 I should just shut up a leave this one alone.

and yes, I did think my choice of, what did you call them "emotes", was pretty good, thank you for mentioning it.

PoSmedley
Reply #52 Saturday, February 13, 2010 9:03 PM

*edit

 

k10w3
Reply #53 Saturday, February 13, 2010 9:33 PM

I'm sorry, did I post something you didn't like, PO baby.


What's with the attitude, man?  Why can't you just participate in the discussion like an intelligent human being without getting all personal and judgmental?

gmc2
Reply #54 Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:47 PM

What's with the attitude, man? Why can't you just participate in the discussion like an intelligent human being without getting all personal and judgmental?

did you actually read PO's #48 post. I believe that I might have been referred to as an immature yo-yo. IMHO and JTOL, I'd say that was fairly personal and judgemental but then again that's just my subjective opinion.

k10w3
Reply #55 Saturday, February 13, 2010 11:08 PM

I believe that I might have been referred to as an immature yo-yo.


I don't think he was referring to you, unless you want to take a skin from an 8 to a 1 simply because you don't like the color.

PoSmedley
Reply #56 Saturday, February 13, 2010 11:30 PM

wallpaper is available

gmc2
Reply #57 Saturday, February 13, 2010 11:43 PM


I believe that I might have been referred to as an immature yo-yo.

I don't think he was referring to you, unless you want to take a skin from an 8 to a 1 simply because you don't like the color.

that's cute Karen, however I believe he was referring to me. I used that as an example in post #34 to say that my reasons (or anyone's for that matter) for rating a blind do not need to be explained.

I don't think I need to qualify a reason for giving an 8 rated blind only one star, maybe I just didn't like the color.

I never said that I have done such a thing and the point being was that (everyone listen now) ratings given are like opinions, eveyone has one, they are generally subjective, can vary all over the map and don't need to be explained. the system is anonymous for a reason and shame on any that abuse it for personal reasons.

nuff said?

Vampothika
Reply #58 Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:52 AM

secondly, when Kitty mentioned that this was not about her I sort of had a idea whom all this might be referring towards so..

instead of second guessing people wrongly, maybe you should stop flame baiting posts........

and those who do skin REGULARY know what is going on. so stop trolling and putting a negative spin on everything, you dont do the site any good that way.

 

grow up.

Jafo
Reply #59 Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:48 AM

ratings given are like opinions, eveyone has one, they are generally subjective, can vary all over the map and don't need to be explained. the system is anonymous for a reason and shame on any that abuse it for personal reasons.

That about covers it...

gmc2
Reply #60 Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:05 AM

I do play the devil's advocate a lot, even when I may agree in principle (this isn't one of them) as there are two side to every coin and a multitude a degrees in between.

but let me recap, MY OPINION of what has transpired.

this thread was started as a declarative statement that the rating system should be scrapped cause there are members that purposefully downgrade a skin to be mean and spiteful. the burden of proof is on the declarer, not someone who disagrees, to show that the statement is true. so far that hasn't been shown and it seems that the mods have a different opinion as well. I suggested that if people were abusing the TOS that it should have been bumped up to the mods and that the forums were probably not the best place for people to air their dirty laundry.

then it comes to light the thread is not about the poster but someone else. (hearsay and innuendo)

but since I disagree and even think that rating system should be expanded I am a) an immature yo-yo, not a REGUALR skinner (WTF?), c) second guess people wrongly because their original statement is incomplete, d) that I am flame baiting and trolling, e) that I've put a negative spin on a negative post (I believe that makes it a positive), d) that I'm a potential blight on the community and e) I have attitude and need to grow up. I kind of resemble "e" and do stand proudly on that one.

Kitty, I feel that you are very talented and have always rated your work fairly, I do appreciate all of the help that you have provided me on technical questions/issues and hope that doesn't change when I say that sometimes you can be such a whiner.

 

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