Windows XP
Friday, June 15, 2001 by adni18 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I just find out that the latest version of Windows XP (build 2485), have took my "XP Wallpaper" and they change it with slightest modifications, to monochrome blue, without any notice or permission.
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treetog
Reply #22 Friday, June 15, 2001 5:08 PM
Reply #22 Friday, June 15, 2001 5:08 PM
Listen to Master DavidK!
The guy really knows what he is talking about, allways using the best words to say them.
Dave, you are a real gentleman,I 100% agree with you.
The guy really knows what he is talking about, allways using the best words to say them.
Dave, you are a real gentleman,I 100% agree with you.
craeonics
Reply #23 Friday, June 15, 2001 6:58 PM
Reply #23 Friday, June 15, 2001 6:58 PM
Whoops, and there I was thinking this was a joke, poking fun at the people that do ports and so on, while in fact it was bitter reality.
craeonics needs to go to bed, seriously
craeonics needs to go to bed, seriously
Jafo
Reply #24 Friday, June 15, 2001 9:06 PM
Reply #24 Friday, June 15, 2001 9:06 PM
How does one 'go to bed seriously'?
You Dutchies must have some strange customs....
You Dutchies must have some strange customs....
adni18
Reply #25 Friday, June 15, 2001 9:10 PM
Reply #25 Friday, June 15, 2001 9:10 PM
Okay treetog, i listen to Master DavidK !
I am a good listener and i understand that he is talking with a good will, trying to be fair. I thank him for that.
Any way, i am sure that is NOT a coincidence.
And for to be more specific, when i was writing
"they have took my "XP Wallpaper" ..........."
i wanted to write
"they have took my IDEA from the "XP Wallpaper" ......."
I hope that it is clear now.
I thank you all for your opinions.
I am a good listener and i understand that he is talking with a good will, trying to be fair. I thank him for that.
Any way, i am sure that is NOT a coincidence.
And for to be more specific, when i was writing
"they have took my "XP Wallpaper" ..........."
i wanted to write
"they have took my IDEA from the "XP Wallpaper" ......."
I hope that it is clear now.
I thank you all for your opinions.
paxx
Reply #26 Friday, June 15, 2001 10:30 PM
Reply #26 Friday, June 15, 2001 10:30 PM
Well, I agree with David who agreed with me.
Coincidence in my opinion. They took their logo, gave it depth a nd tilted it.
You did the same. Maybe 100 other people in the world did the same too. I'm sorry to have to be blunt, but it's not like it was such an original idea in the first place... I'm really sorry if this offends you, I really am. But please... I am sure MS did not get inspired by your WP, they are perfectly capable of having the idea on their own...
Coincidence in my opinion. They took their logo, gave it depth a nd tilted it.
You did the same. Maybe 100 other people in the world did the same too. I'm sorry to have to be blunt, but it's not like it was such an original idea in the first place... I'm really sorry if this offends you, I really am. But please... I am sure MS did not get inspired by your WP, they are perfectly capable of having the idea on their own...
thecat2000
Reply #27 Friday, June 15, 2001 10:46 PM
yea, I agree with DavidK and Paxx I have to say.. besides did you try to ask for permission using the XP logo ? I am sure you didn't..
Anyone who has knows what the actual score is on this sort of thing anyway. But I think it is very unlikely that Microsft stole your idea. Microsoft has a good team of creative thinkers who come up with all sorts of ideas. Do you stop to realise how much an idea costs in money to people like Microsoft.? How much did it cost Microsoft for the XP logo design ? Wallpapers are just the same.
Some one designed the MS Wallpaper and I am sure it is a plain coincidence this whole story. The chances of this happening must be very far and wide. I dont mean to upset you on this and I have seen your wallpapers which I think are very good. But the Windows XP idea, and everything associated with XP is not your idea or my idea or any one who is doing ports of OS's in the first place. What you do like me and many others are creating theme's and other things which are based on Microsofts idea's and thinking for it's new OS.
Reply #27 Friday, June 15, 2001 10:46 PM
yea, I agree with DavidK and Paxx I have to say.. besides did you try to ask for permission using the XP logo ? I am sure you didn't..Anyone who has knows what the actual score is on this sort of thing anyway. But I think it is very unlikely that Microsft stole your idea. Microsoft has a good team of creative thinkers who come up with all sorts of ideas. Do you stop to realise how much an idea costs in money to people like Microsoft.? How much did it cost Microsoft for the XP logo design ? Wallpapers are just the same.
Some one designed the MS Wallpaper and I am sure it is a plain coincidence this whole story. The chances of this happening must be very far and wide. I dont mean to upset you on this and I have seen your wallpapers which I think are very good. But the Windows XP idea, and everything associated with XP is not your idea or my idea or any one who is doing ports of OS's in the first place. What you do like me and many others are creating theme's and other things which are based on Microsofts idea's and thinking for it's new OS.
adni18
Reply #28 Saturday, June 16, 2001 4:10 AM
Reply #28 Saturday, June 16, 2001 4:10 AM
This is the message i wanted to write in the first place (Because of my English i didnt verbalize it correctly):
"In the latest version of Windows XP (build 2485), there is a Wallpaper WICH IS SIMILAR to my wallpaper with a name "XP Wallpaper". They took my IDEA and they have change it with slightest modifications, to monochrome blue."
This is the all Story.
P.S.
thecat2000,paxx,
Sorry that i have to say, that i totally disagree with your comment.
The IDEAS are not privilege of professionals and are not common to everyone. After you see or you hear a new stuff, everybody can think "ok, this is nothing, i can do it my self", and i say, "why didnt you in the first place?".
"In the latest version of Windows XP (build 2485), there is a Wallpaper WICH IS SIMILAR to my wallpaper with a name "XP Wallpaper". They took my IDEA and they have change it with slightest modifications, to monochrome blue."
This is the all Story.
P.S.
thecat2000,paxx,
Sorry that i have to say, that i totally disagree with your comment.
The IDEAS are not privilege of professionals and are not common to everyone. After you see or you hear a new stuff, everybody can think "ok, this is nothing, i can do it my self", and i say, "why didnt you in the first place?".
DavidK
Reply #29 Saturday, June 16, 2001 4:46 AM
Reply #29 Saturday, June 16, 2001 4:46 AM
heh - I was at the world introduction of digital sound Sony did in San Jose. It was a machine called the PCM-1 which hooked up to a betamax VCR. During the show I told them my idea for beta which was to put the sound in the video signal to take advantage of the writting speed and bandwidth/dynamic range. The regional VP, Dennis P said I want you to tell that to some other guys and he brought out two Japanese engineers. I told them my idea including where to put the signal (between chroma and luminance) and they said "thanks, but we already working on that"
A year and a half later Beta HiFi was introduced and it was Exactly the system I described to them.
so I bought one
A year and a half later Beta HiFi was introduced and it was Exactly the system I described to them.
so I bought one
adni18
Reply #30 Saturday, June 16, 2001 10:51 AM
Reply #30 Saturday, June 16, 2001 10:51 AM
thecat2000,
Do you remember the comment that you wrote for my XP Wallpaper (the one that MS took the idea from it).
I will refresh your memory by quoting the following that you wrote as a comment:
"The technique to design this wallpaper is pretty interesting to say the least. Why use it for XP is beyond me though, AS IT STANDS APART from all the other XP wallpapers".
Think again about that and tell me, if what you wrote, is not a proof of what i am saying ?
Of course it does stand apart from all the others because it is a new idea.
Would you say that today after the MS Wallpaper release ???
Do you remember the comment that you wrote for my XP Wallpaper (the one that MS took the idea from it).
I will refresh your memory by quoting the following that you wrote as a comment:
"The technique to design this wallpaper is pretty interesting to say the least. Why use it for XP is beyond me though, AS IT STANDS APART from all the other XP wallpapers".
Think again about that and tell me, if what you wrote, is not a proof of what i am saying ?
Of course it does stand apart from all the others because it is a new idea.
Would you say that today after the MS Wallpaper release ???
Sylva
Reply #31 Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:32 PM
Reply #31 Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:32 PM
Honestly, adni, I have seen that technique used many times before. Not neccesarily with XP wallpapers, but displaying objects from that perspective is quite common.
I have seen both wallpapers and the only resemblence is the perspective.
Continuing on with this temper tantrum is merely making you sound immature.
I have seen both wallpapers and the only resemblence is the perspective.
Continuing on with this temper tantrum is merely making you sound immature.
thecat2000
Reply #33 Saturday, June 16, 2001 3:09 PM
Reply #33 Saturday, June 16, 2001 3:09 PM
Look guy's I think there is no trying to reason further about this, if adni, believes that for some reason his idea was stolen from him by Microsft, then so be it. It is clear to me he cannot be shifted to believe any thing other than this premise.
Yes I DID say this adni, but I was looking at a perspective of something that had not been done by any other skinner or artist on this site or the community. It does not however condone the idea which you suggest here.
Look if you are really bothered about this, I suggest doing this: - contact your Local Microsoft Headquarters, by e mail if need be, and ask them to quate you the riot act on copyright issues. you will find also they will also point out that your work as great as it looks, did not actually inspire their wallpaper.
Also the fact think of how much Microsoft payed for this wallpaper you are speaking of. If they had thought for one minute your work was the one they wanted to use, they would have payed you dont you think !
This whole thing is a coincidence I am sure.
Yes I DID say this adni, but I was looking at a perspective of something that had not been done by any other skinner or artist on this site or the community. It does not however condone the idea which you suggest here.
Look if you are really bothered about this, I suggest doing this: - contact your Local Microsoft Headquarters, by e mail if need be, and ask them to quate you the riot act on copyright issues. you will find also they will also point out that your work as great as it looks, did not actually inspire their wallpaper.
Also the fact think of how much Microsoft payed for this wallpaper you are speaking of. If they had thought for one minute your work was the one they wanted to use, they would have payed you dont you think !
This whole thing is a coincidence I am sure.
adni18
Reply #34 Saturday, June 16, 2001 5:57 PM
Reply #34 Saturday, June 16, 2001 5:57 PM
Okay, i know well what i have done, when i have done it and why i have done it. I know also, that i was never interested in getting anything in return.
I thank you for your comments and i think the case is closed.
P.S. My nickname is adni18 but I am not 18 years old.
I thank you for your comments and i think the case is closed.
P.S. My nickname is adni18 but I am not 18 years old.
thecat2000
Reply #35 Saturday, June 16, 2001 7:03 PM
Reply #35 Saturday, June 16, 2001 7:03 PM
Wow Chill out adni18, I think your real enemy here is yourself. People here are only trying to reassure you and you have basically treated everyone with a bad attiude. I said what I said becuase like others I believe you are possibly mistaken in this.
It is nothing personal against you or anything, but as we respect your feelings and accusations at the same time you posted this thread, and we are only responding to the thread like you asked. Sounding the way you do it does make you sound immature on this, and just wont see anyway but your own road. So I am finished here to I am afraid.
It is nothing personal against you or anything, but as we respect your feelings and accusations at the same time you posted this thread, and we are only responding to the thread like you asked. Sounding the way you do it does make you sound immature on this, and just wont see anyway but your own road. So I am finished here to I am afraid.
Alexandrie
Reply #36 Monday, June 18, 2001 11:42 PM
Reply #36 Monday, June 18, 2001 11:42 PM
we don't have enough XP thread, I'm putting this one back to life
Jafo
Reply #37 Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:08 AM
Reply #37 Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:08 AM
Well....I'm on the way to being the greatest XP artist of all time....started getting DL's of my Aston Martin XP, and now Nicole wants me to call her....
Can life get any better than this?....
Can life get any better than this?....
flummox
Reply #38 Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:20 AM
jafo
i didn't understand the craze until I went searching. WTF there is a HUGE database of some 100 XP wallpapers. That was crazy. Some were cool but all and in it is one wallpaper with a few filters applied to it or the same damn flag being sported in a different perspective.
And adni--whatever you did with microsoft's flag isn't your own and perspectives aren't anything new....hell i've been hand drawing things in perspective for years and I never bitched when someone else did the same.
I think what everyone was saying is calm down it's a two way street you use their logo etc.
And you get mad when someone doesn't stroke your ego and agree with you.
It's ok--you weren't honestly thinking some MS exec. would see this site and all your hard work done for free and actually hire you did you?
I just don't see your point in ruffling feathers here
Reply #38 Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:20 AM
jafoi didn't understand the craze until I went searching. WTF there is a HUGE database of some 100 XP wallpapers. That was crazy. Some were cool but all and in it is one wallpaper with a few filters applied to it or the same damn flag being sported in a different perspective.
And adni--whatever you did with microsoft's flag isn't your own and perspectives aren't anything new....hell i've been hand drawing things in perspective for years and I never bitched when someone else did the same.
I think what everyone was saying is calm down it's a two way street you use their logo etc.
And you get mad when someone doesn't stroke your ego and agree with you.
It's ok--you weren't honestly thinking some MS exec. would see this site and all your hard work done for free and actually hire you did you?
I just don't see your point in ruffling feathers here
Alexandrie
Reply #39 Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:22 AM
Reply #39 Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:22 AM
wow cool Jafo
you are now rich and famous
you should rename your title to Lord Jafo
you are now rich and famous
you should rename your title to Lord Jafo
adni18
Reply #40 Tuesday, June 19, 2001 4:03 AM
Reply #40 Tuesday, June 19, 2001 4:03 AM
Madam flummox,
I am always honest in my life and i don't need no one to hire me for job.
I have my own job, I am a dentist and i merit the money i need.
The IDEAS are not common to everyone. After you see something new, you can say "ok, this is nothing, just a RESPECTIVE OF THE LOGO IN ENTIRE SCREEN,any one can do it", and i say, "why NO ONE done it in the first place?".
As i write above, the case is closed.
P.S. Please, I don't need more comments about it because those comments make me feel more and more
disappointment. NOT EVEN ONE GOOD COMMENT.
I am always honest in my life and i don't need no one to hire me for job.
I have my own job, I am a dentist and i merit the money i need.
The IDEAS are not common to everyone. After you see something new, you can say "ok, this is nothing, just a RESPECTIVE OF THE LOGO IN ENTIRE SCREEN,any one can do it", and i say, "why NO ONE done it in the first place?".
As i write above, the case is closed.
P.S. Please, I don't need more comments about it because those comments make me feel more and more
disappointment. NOT EVEN ONE GOOD COMMENT.
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Reply #21 Friday, June 15, 2001 4:53 PM
My feeling, like paxx, is that it's a coincidence. If you believe they were inspired by seeing yours then I can see where you'd be proud that they were affected by your work.
As far as it being a rip, it's not even as close as the famous George Harrison "he's so fine" and "my sweet lord" dispute which I also didn't agree with.
btw - your english is fine, and I didn't think you started a flame thread... I was just hoping it wouldn't go there