Well Known Site Ripping Our Work!!!

PDJ's cursor gallery?

Monday, October 26, 2009 by RedneckDude | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Hey guys,

 I got an email today from Softpedia.com telling me that they are hosting some of my cursors, as well as showcasing via links to my cursors here at WC. Blew me away, to say the least.

I'm sure this happens, so I wanted to ask for opinions here.  Should I be happy, or upset? Is this extra exposure, or exploitation?

After further digging, I find there are a bunch of us there. If you get to a page that says Developers page, it'll link to WC. But the product finder on the home page will find links to download your work from their site!!!

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Enhancements/Other-Desktop-Enhancements/Radio-Wave-FX.shtml

http://www.softpedia.com/developer/PuterDudeJim-61341.html

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CarGuy1
Reply #41 Monday, October 26, 2009 10:53 PM

vStyler
Did they ask?

Did they ask you if they could use your VOX sound pack?

 

RedneckDude
Reply #42 Monday, October 26, 2009 10:54 PM

To those who wish to have skins removed:

email        [email protected]

CarGuy1
Reply #43 Monday, October 26, 2009 10:56 PM

Funny, if you read their copyright page, it looks like everyone they ripped, works for them.

 

Softpedia Online Content Copyright Information

The following applies to all content published by Softpedia via electronic means, such as Internet websites, email messages and so on, hereinafter referred to as CONTENT.

Most of the CONTENT is original, created by Softpedia staff and is protected by copyright laws. Any reproduction of these works, without Softpedia's written consent, is strictly prohibited and will be punished according to the laws in effect.

RedneckDude
Reply #44 Monday, October 26, 2009 10:56 PM

I thought it was funny, and was only a joke after all.

I knew that, was trying to be funny back at you, I'm not as good at it as you. I'll stick to skinning!

 

Now that was funny!!!

RedneckDude
Reply #45 Monday, October 26, 2009 10:58 PM

I'm sure if WC has a problem with it that they want to put resources towards, then I'm all for that too... Either way I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

I was just flattered that someone found my work worth ripping...lol!     

Jafo
Reply #46 Monday, October 26, 2009 11:10 PM

Last time someone datamined [hotlinked] to the Wincustomize database the links were 'redirected' to an unsavoury site.

Put a quick end to the practise.

RedneckDude
Reply #47 Monday, October 26, 2009 11:14 PM

  Do it again....do it again!!!  

vStyler
Reply #48 Monday, October 26, 2009 11:28 PM

Did they ask you if they could use your VOX sound pack?

 

Nope

Old_Crab
Reply #49 Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:02 AM

They took my Monty Python Sound Packager theme! Hope they enjoy it!

Vampothika
Reply #50 Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:09 AM

letter sent...........not sure if it will do any good or not........

sAARGe
Reply #51 Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:08 AM

i didnt sent them any love letter yet ..... but lemme know guys if they get affected by your love stories .....

DrJBHL
Reply #52 Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:10 AM

Vampothika
letter sent...........not sure if it will do any good or not........

The right way to go. I figure they just exist to make money from traffic. Even their name is a rip in a way...

If it doesn't work Vamps, there's a certain DudeFromDownUnder who'll link them to dogturdsRus.com and they'll get the message right quick.

Vampothika
Reply #53 Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:41 AM

got my reply, but i did sent more of a honey letter than a vinegar one........

 

Hello,

          We were unable to contact you, because we didn't find an email address. It's company policy to inform all producers when we publish their work in order to avoid misunderstandings such as this one. Anyway, would you like to completely remove your listings or just the links from our servers?

Sorry for any inconvenience
Have a good day!

Best regards,
Stefan Fintea
mailto:[email protected]
Softpedia Senior IT Manager
http://www.softpedia.com
Join the Softpedia group on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2366085
hello,
 
I am the author Vampothika at wincustomize, and it has been brought to my attention that your site has most of my curors for download.
I did not upload my cursors at your site, nor did I give permission for you to host them there. Please remove them from your site,
thankyou.
 
Kitty. (vampothika)
Jafo
Reply #54 Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:03 AM

got my reply, but i did sent more of a honey letter than a vinegar one.

In my experience that is the only one that will work reliably.

If anyone wishes an action to be taken by a wrong-doer to undo the wrong....yelling and demanding often goes unheeded....

Nozavi
Reply #55 Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:48 AM

Hello everybody

Let me start by explaining a few things and if you still have any questions, I'll be glad to answer them:

Softpedia does not exploit anyone's work. We respect our producers, we give them credit for their work, links to their homepage/websites and we award the ones who deserve it.

We don't like the idea of going around their/your back, that's why we search for each producer's email. If we do find it, they receive a notification message. The idea behind this email is simple: the producer gets notified each time his worked goes online at Softpedia, he can see if the listing meets his requirements and acknowledges his wish to have that item on Softpedia.

On the other hand, if he thinks that listing is not in his benefit, all he has to do is reply to that email (as Jim did) and we remove his work asap. There are cases (like Vampothika's) when we're unable to find a contact email, but in these cases the author can easily contact us through the forms found on our website and send us his requests: whether he asks for an update or a removal, we strive to do our best in order to have satisfied producers and users.


So, if anyone feels that having their work published and awarded on one of the biggest and most respected download portals is not in their benefit or puts them in a bad light, an email we'll easily solve the problem, as Jim and Vampothika proved it already. As I said before, we're not trying to take advantage of your work and we do respect your decision, whichever it may be.


Thank you!


Stefan Fintea, Softpedia Senior IT Manager

vStyler
Reply #56 Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:57 AM

I really didn't mind you posting my VOX sound package, however.. supposedly sending an email and then putting up somesones work whether you get an answer or not does not go far towards your self proclaimed 'most respected download portals' status

 

My email is publicly and clearly available and I never receieved anything from you regarding permissions so it appears that you didn't look very hard or didn't at all.

PoSmedley
Reply #57 Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:05 AM

What a load of crap!

It's one thing when you contact the person..but when you claim you can find no way to contact them..or posting their work before they respond...where the fuck do you get off posting the work ANYWAY?!?!?! Pretty fucking convenient for you if  that person never finds out about it.

So, if anyone feels that having their work published and awarded on one of the biggest and most respected download portals is not in their benefit or puts them in a bad light, an email we'll easily solve the problem,

I'd like to see you do that with a Stephen King Novel or maybe some Green Day mp3's.

As for 'respect'.... sorry, you don't have mine. I'm sure a lot of other folks feel the same way. You're 'big' because you you take and post so much stuff without permission, buttmunch! Any fucking body could do that. In your case, portal is just another word for toilet. You're all about accumulating the most shit.

edit* Does Stardock support these folks? They should force them to follow the same rules we have to here as artists and get the fucking permission first! If they don't, then pull all Stardock stuff/permissions from their site!

Nozavi
Reply #58 Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:06 AM

Strange, problem fixed, email address associated with your account. Sorry about that.

 

@PoSmedley: That's your opinion and I respect it. But if you think we're the bad guys, we're the worst download portal in the world, I think there are hunderds of download websites out there that never notify producers when they pubish their work, they don't check those programs for viruses, they don't install them and take screenshots, they never answer your emails and sure as hell don't care about what you want, not to mention replying on a third-party forum like I'm doing right now... But hey... it's your opinion

Jafo
Reply #59 Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:12 AM

So, if anyone feels that having their work published and awarded on one of the biggest and most respected download portals is not in their benefit or puts them in a bad light, an email we'll easily solve the problem, as Jim and Vampothika proved it already. As I said before, we're not trying to take advantage of your work and we do respect your decision, whichever it may be.

Stefan,

Proper conduct when dealing with others' intellectual copyright is to seek permission FIRST.

It is not appropriate to require feedback/responses [if available] in order to opt-out of your choice to exploit artists' property.

I am sure that many, if not all artists, if approached first would be quite willing to give consent, as it is with that approach that they [the artists] will see a willingness on the part of your site to respect their property rights.

The situation we have here at Wincustomize.com [and other similar skinning/art sites] is that the author/owner of the work uploads his/her content to the site and retains physical access and control of that work when or if it is his/her decision to remove or alter it.  Such is not the case with Softpedia as the occasion clearly has arisen where owners are actually oblivious to the unauthorised redistribution.

The only correct approach would be to remove any and all works which have [yet] no legitimate consent until such time as it/they are obtained....

ZubaZ
Reply #60 Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:17 AM

Should I be saddened that they didn't take any of my stuff? 

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